A possible move for another nose tackle?... Casey Hampton *Merge*

[Mr.davon24]

To those that say it wont happen Steelers are known for letting good players go to salvage some cap space. Kevin Green Greg Llyod.

 

[21Savage]

Big choice. Never was versus a Pro Bowler.

Out of curiousity, what do you see in Siavii? Do you and Wade Phillips have the same prescription?

I've watched him closely on tape since last preseason and he holds up strongly against the run and double teams. Nothing against the pass but I don't expect anything from him in that department.

I also like his story. Especially the statement in my signature.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

You guys are trippin. I'd happily give up a 4th to grab him. The dude was an anchor for the best defensive team in the league. Oh and they ran a 3-4.

We have more than enough money to take on his contract year. Still have Rat play NT while shifting him over on some packages and spelling Rat. A Ratliff/Hampton duo would be disgusting. Sign him for a few years while we focus on other needs on the draft and in 2011 draft another big NT. I'm here to win now baby!!

Edit: OH and we'll still have 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks..Brandon Williams and Brewster are basically going to be drafted players in 2010.

 

[Randy White]

Me too. Who do they have behind him that is their Anthony Spencer to Hampton's Greg Ellis?

Evander Hood. I hear he's kicking serious booty in camp.

 

[Randy White]

Big choice. Never was versus a Pro Bowler.

Out of curiousity, what do you see in Siavii? Do you and Wade Phillips have the same prescription?

No kiddin'.. All I've seen of him is getting knocked to the ground.

 

[Randy White]

don't pay too much attention at the age thing. NG tend to last until their late 30's. I'm not saying they should give him a long term contract with a big bonus, but Ted Washington had a long, long, long, career being a NG in the NFL. Long after being consiered a 1st round bust by the 49ers.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

don't pay too much attention at the age thing. NG tend to last until their late 30's. I'm not saying they should give him a long term contract with a big bonus, but Ted Washington had a long, long, long, career being a NG in the NFL. Long after being consiered a 1st round bust by the 49ers.

Yupp..and he'll continue to play on a high level for the next 2-3 years, while we continue to focus on other areas in the draft. AKA. O-line.

 

[BAT]

You guys are trippin. I'd happily give up a 4th to grab him. The dude was an anchor for the best defensive team in the league. Oh and they ran a 3-4.

We have more than enough money to take on his contract year. Still have Rat play NT while shifting him over on some packages and spelling Rat. A Ratliff/Hampton duo would be disgusting. Sign him for a few years while we focus on other needs on the draft and in 2011 draft another big NT. I'm here to win now baby!!

Edit: OH and we'll still have 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks..Brandon Williams and Brewster are basically going to be drafted players in 2010.

If all it took was a 4th, then I would do it too. Even if it meant shifting Rat to DE (which I was never in favor of) so the best DL can play together. But trading for Hampton would mean the end of Spears. He is likely traded the following week.

Prob is that Spears is younger than Hampton, and it is likely that Cowboys do not re-sign Hampton at season's end if the price is too steep. That said, these would be NICE problems for THIS season.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

If all it took was a 4th, then I would do it too. Even if it meant shifting Rat to DE (which I was never in favor of) so the best DL can play together. But trading for Hampton would mean the end of Spears. He is likely traded the following week.

Prob is that Spears is younger than Hampton, and it is likely that Cowboys do not re-sign Hampton at season's end if the price is too steep. That said, these would be NICE problems for THIS season.

All valid points. But I'm looking at next years FA class for D-line and YIKES..why not resign Spears,Hatch and Hampton? We'll have money and it will buy us 2-3 years on not drafting d-lineman.

Just imagine..a Spears,Ratliff,Hampton,Olshansky,Hatch for D-line rotation for years..I'm drooling

We can go O-line with 2 of the first 3 picks and a CB with the other pick

Remember we have B-Will,Brewster coming back next year. Those guys are basically draft picks.

 

[BAT]

All valid points. But I'm looking at next years FA class for D-line and YIKES..why not resign Spears,Hatch and Hampton? We'll have money and it will buy us 2-3 years on not drafting d-lineman.

Just imagine..a Spears,Ratliff,Hampton,Olshansky,Hatch for D-line rotation for years..I'm drooling

We can go O-line with 2 of the first 3 picks and a CB with the other pick

Remember we have B-Will,Brewster coming back next year. Those guys are basically draft picks.

In this hypo you would have to pay BOTH Hampton & Spears at least Canty like money (more if Cowboys do anything in post season or rank top 5 in D). I just do not see Stephen doing this, it is excessive. Either Hatch or Bowen, or both, will be signed. Signing both might be more cost effective than signing just one of either Spears/Hampton. And Cowboys still have Dixon in the wings (although I think Derek Robinson outplayed him in preseason IMO).

Fact is, bringing in Hampton would be a one year deal, unless he is willing to sign a hometown discount.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

IF this is true... Dallas should be interested.

 

[UnoDallas]

Hampton to much money

draft one
Boo Robinson, Wake Forest Height: 6-2. Weight: 326

 

[Dallas71]

Parcells will get Hampton. He's probably finally figured out that 305 isn't nearly big enough for today's game. I'd love to bring in Hampton and move Ratliff back to his natural position where he might be one of the first 3-4 defensive ends to really create terror in the passing game as well as running game.

Ratliff at only 305 pounds is an awesome pass rusher. He's really not that great against the run and for the reasons I'm talking about. Dallas gives up way too many runs of 5-7 yards and certainly we can all recall big, gaping holes that appear from time to time for opposing running backs to exploit.

It's simple: Super Bowl contenders don't have defenses that give up the kind of real estate the Cowboys do a little too often ... especially against the run.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm real bias where Hampton is concerned. I'm a huge Horns fan and an even bigger Casey Hampton fan.

Couple things strike me. One, we have consistantly been run on late in the season. Two, we are going to have to beat New York late and that means stopping Jacobs up the gut and Bradshaw outside. Would help a lot if we knew we could anchor strong up the middle, late in the season.

Last two games of the season, we gave up 265 yards to Baltimore and 137 yards to Philly.

If we win either of those games, we are in the playoffs. I think it's important to be strong late on both sides of the running game.

I think he'd be worth signing if in good shape.

 

[joseephuss]

I'm real bias where Hampton is concerned. I'm a huge Horns fan and an even bigger Casey Hampton fan.

Couple things strike me. One, we have consistantly been run on late in the season. Two, we are going to have to beat New York late and that means stopping Jacobs up the gut and Bradshaw outside. Would help a lot if we knew we could anchor strong up the middle, late in the season.

Last two games of the season, we gave up 265 yards to Baltimore and 137 yards to Philly.

If we win either of those games, we are in the playoffs. I think it's important to be strong late on both sides of the running game.

I think he'd be worth signing if in good shape.

I don't think that Ravens game was indicative of the Cowboys run defense. A majority of those yards came on 3 plays. The long TD runs were fluke plays. They weren't bad run defense. They were just bad defense. Guys trying to do too much instead of just doing their jobs, staying in their lanes and playing good solid technique. The third long running play of that game was a fake punt. There was even a 4th play where Flacco kept it and ran for a good size gain. Bad defense, but not a true indicator of the rush defense.

I thought they stuffed the run pretty well that game and that is the type of run defense they have. They just imploded and gave up big plays. The Ravens could have run a screen and it would have popped for a big TD the way Dallas was tackling and playing at the end of that game.

The rush defense also played well against both the Giants and Steelers in the previous two games giving up 72 and 70 yards, respectively.

The Philly game was a bad game in every facet, so it is difficult to say that the rush defense let them down. Evey aspect of the team let them down in that game.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't think that Ravens game was indicative of the Cowboys run defense. A majority of those yards came on 3 plays. The long TD runs were fluke plays. They weren't bad run defense. They were just bad defense. Guys trying to do too much instead of just doing their jobs, staying in their lanes and playing good solid technique. The third long running play of that game was a fake punt. There was even a 4th play where Flacco kept it and ran for a good size gain. Bad defense, but not a true indicator of the rush defense.

I thought they stuffed the run pretty well that game and that is the type of run defense they have. They just imploded and gave up big plays. The Ravens could have run a screen and it would have popped for a big TD the way Dallas was tackling and playing at the end of that game.

The rush defense also played well against both the Giants and Steelers in the previous two games giving up 72 and 70 yards, respectively.

The Philly game was a bad game in every facet, so it is difficult to say that the rush defense let them down. Evey aspect of the team let them down in that game.

Does not change the fact that we gave up yards in two must win games on the ground Josee.

IMO, we looked tired. I can't see how bringing in a player who could play, probably the most important position in the 34, could hurt.

 

[joseephuss]

Does not change the fact that we gave up yards in two must win games on the ground Josee.

IMO, we looked tired. I can't see how bringing in a player who could play, probably the most important position in the 34, could hurt.

I agree with you on both points. They gave up yards when it was a must win, must stop situation. Hampton or any other proven NT will not hurt at all. Got no problems with that although I doubt Hampton gets released. I just don't think the run defense is as bad as it is made out to be or that the Ravens game is a good example of the run defense.

The defense just lets down from time to time whether that is from the run or the pass. They did not give up a lot of passing yards to Flacco in that Ravens game, but the yardage they did give up came during critical situations including the TD pass to Mason. Every time they looked as if they had the offense stopped they would give up a play that allowed the drive to continue.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree with you on both points. They gave up yards when it was a must win, must stop situation. Hampton or any other proven NT will not hurt at all. Got no problems with that although I doubt Hampton gets released. I just don't think the run defense is as bad as it is made out to be or that the Ravens game is a good example of the run defense.

The defense just lets down from time to time whether that is from the run or the pass. They did not give up a lot of passing yards to Flacco in that Ravens game, but the yardage they did give up came during critical situations including the TD pass to Mason. Every time they looked as if they had the offense stopped they would give up a play that allowed the drive to continue.

You know, I honestly can't put my finger on it. I don't know why we seem to have mental breakdowns in critical situations. It's not just this year or even last year. It goes back to when Parcells was here. It's really tough for me to understand it. It could be fatige or it could be the players we draft. I don't know but I do know that Hampton is a winner. You can't have to many of those guys around.

I do agree with you though. I doubt very much that the Steelers would allow him to slip.