A quick look at current NFL QB's

[sureletsrace]

Apparently, only 6 current NFL quarterbacks are not chokers. Listed below are the quarterbacks who have won, which SB(s) they won, and how long it took them in the NFL to do it:

Tom Brady won SB36, 38, 39 (cheater) --- 2 years.
Brett Favre won SB31 --- 5 years.
Ben Roethlisberger won SB40, 43 (refs, defense won them) --- 2 years.
Peyton Manning won SB41 --- 8 years.
Eli Manning won SB42 (luck) --- 4 years.
Kurt Warner won SB34 --- 6 years.

Three of them honestly shouldn't have won. Eli got lucky with a ridiculous catch by an unknown WR, Ben received free rings by his defense and the officials, and the Patriots were caught cheating. So I guess the mediots have a lot of catching up to do, considering they focus most of their time on only one being a "choke artist".

 

[WarDaddy]

Romo is my favorite QB and I believe he is very talented but he will always be considered a choker even after he wins a Superbowl.

Just like you painstakingly took the time to discredit Big Ben, Brady, and Eli some other off-centered fan will do the same with Romo.

Looks like you're just going to have to live with the criticism. Sorry.

 

[sureletsrace]

Romo is my favorite QB and I believe he is very talented but he will always be considered a choker even after he wins a Superbowl.

Just like you painstakingly took the time to discredit Big Ben, Brady, and Eli some other off-centered fan will do the same with Romo.

Looks like you're just going to have to live with the criticism. Sorry.

I did not discredit any of them. I merely stated fact. Even Stealers fans know that their defense wins them games, and it's painstakingly obvious that they receive referee help. Please go back and watch the Super Bowl that Eli won. Without a miracle catch, Brady would have had another ring. Do you need to see last summers coverage of the scandal involving the Patriots cheating? I think they had about 5 hours every day all summer of it being aired on NFLN and ESPN.

Romo has not cheated (at least that we know of), his defense sure does not win him the big games (2 huge runs against the Ravens RB corps), and miracles do not seem to swing in the Cowboys favor (block punt in OT?).

 

[THUMPER]

What's funny is that Drew Brees isn't seen as a choker even though he's had good teams and is only 1-2 in the playoffs and that's after 7 seasons as a starter. He is also barely over .500 winning% (55-51). The same people who poo-poo Romo's stats are all over Brees even though all he has is numbers and it is mostly because he throws the ball a million times a season.

People don't like Philip Rivers but he is 3-3 in the playoffs. I don't get it. They put Romo down because he hasn't won a playoff game but they would take Brees in a heartbeat even though he hasn't done squat. They put Rivers down for reasons beyond understanding but he has been quite successful both in the regular and post seasons.

I think I'll just ignore most people's OPINIONS on the subject and just go with the facts.

 

[Sammy Baugh]

What's funny is that Drew Brees isn't seen as a choker even though he's had good teams and is only 1-2 in the playoffs and that's after 7 seasons as a starter. He is also barely over .500 winning% (55-51). The same people who poo-poo Romo's stats are all over Brees even though all he has is numbers and it is mostly because he throws the ball a million times a season.

People don't like Philip Rivers but he is 3-3 in the playoffs. I don't get it. They put Romo down because he hasn't won a playoff game but they would take Brees in a heartbeat even though he hasn't done squat. They put Rivers down for reasons beyond understanding but he has been quite successful both in the regular and post seasons.

I think I'll just ignore most people's OPINIONS on the subject and just go with the facts.

I think people like Brees so much because of his recent production. Early in his career he was problematic and this makes his overall stats look mediocre. But for the last couple of years he has been on fire. That is why he throws the ball "a million times a season" - he's good at it. If you put him on a team which actually played some defense, his playoff record might look much better.

 

[stilltheguru]

Apparently, only 6 current NFL quarterbacks are not chokers. Listed below are the quarterbacks who have won, which SB(s) they won, and how long it took them in the NFL to do it:

Tom Brady won SB36, 38, 39 (cheater) --- 2 years.
Brett Favre won SB31 --- 5 years.
Ben Roethlisberger won SB40, 43 (refs, defense won them) --- 2 years.
Peyton Manning won SB41 --- 8 years.
Eli Manning won SB42 (luck) --- 4 years.
Kurt Warner won SB34 --- 6 years.

Three of them honestly shouldn't have won. Eli got lucky with a ridiculous catch by an unknown WR, Ben received free rings by his defense and the officials, and the Patriots were caught cheating. So I guess the mediots have a lot of catching up to do, considering they focus most of their time on only one being a "choke artist".

Ben is better than Romo will ever be. His "defense" got shredded by the Cardinals and he led a game winning touchdown drive. You Romo defenders kill me.

 

[sureletsrace]

Ben is better than Romo will ever be. His "defense" got shredded by the Cardinals and he led a game winning touchdown drive. You Romo defenders kill me.

His defense gave up one big play to arguably the best WR in the game on a slant that only went the distance because Fitz is a beast. That still doesn't excuse the referee assistance. Sorry, I'd take Romo over Ben. If you put Romo in with the Stealers, the team would back to back and possibly three-peat.

 

[firehawk350]

Apparently, only 6 current NFL quarterbacks are not chokers. Listed below are the quarterbacks who have won, which SB(s) they won, and how long it took them in the NFL to do it:

Tom Brady won SB36, 38, 39 (cheater) --- 2 years.
Brett Favre won SB31 --- 5 years.
Ben Roethlisberger won SB40, 43 (refs, defense won them) --- 2 years.
Peyton Manning won SB41 --- 8 years.
Eli Manning won SB42 (luck) --- 4 years.
Kurt Warner won SB34 --- 6 years.

Three of them honestly shouldn't have won. Eli got lucky with a ridiculous catch by an unknown WR, Ben received free rings by his defense and the officials, and the Patriots were caught cheating. So I guess the mediots have a lot of catching up to do, considering they focus most of their time on only one being a "choke artist".

In the 08 Super Bowl, if Eli didn't get "lucky", Tom Brady would have had a super bowl where he didn't cheat. Your in a bit of paradox with that one.

 

[sureletsrace]

In the 08 Super Bowl, if Eli didn't get "lucky", Tom Brady would have had a super bowl where he didn't cheat. Your in a bit of paradox with that one.

How did they not cheat? That's the year they got caught cheating. It's not like every organization could up and immediately change sideline signals.

 

[stilltheguru]

His defense gave up one big play to arguably the best WR in the game on a slant that only went the distance because Fitz is a beast. That still doesn't excuse the referee assistance. Sorry, I'd take Romo over Ben. If you put Romo in with the Stealers, the team would back to back and possibly three-peat.

Romo would've led that touchdown drive?:laugh2:. And the Cards offense had alot of sucess against the Steelers defense. The defense did not win the game. They were down in the 4th quarter and Ben scored a touchdown. End of story. Romo had his chance to score game winning touchdowns in playoff games.

game 1-settled for a fg
game 2-threw an interception


Ben is what Romo fans wish Romo was deep down inside.

 

[sureletsrace]

Romo would've led that touchdown drive?:laugh2:. And the Cards offense had alot of sucess against the Steelers defense. The defense did not win the game. They were down in the 4th quarter and Ben scored a touchdown. End of story. Romo had his chance to score game winning touchdowns in playoff games.

game 1-settled for a fg
game 2-threw an interception


Ben is what Romo fans wish Romo was deep down inside.

It's honestly a matter of opinion. You don't have to feel like you need to defend Ben. I'd just rather have Romo.

 

[firehawk350]

How did they not cheat? That's the year they got caught cheating. It's not like every organization could up and immediately change sideline signals.

They do it all the time actually... Either way, prior to 2007, Steve Spagnoulo wasn't even a defensive coordinator, therefore, there's no way the Pats had tape of his hand signals.

 

[AbeBeta]

I've said it before. Folks who begrudge Eli's performance in the SB winning year are just sucking sour grapes - he was outstanding in the playoffs that year and led game winning drives at the end of 3 of the 4 games.

I hate Eli, but to act like he was lucky is just 100% ignorant.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I've said it before. Folks who begrudge Eli's performance in the SB winning year are just sucking sour grapes - he was outstanding in the playoffs that year and led game winning drives at the end of 3 of the 4 games.

I hate Eli, but to act like he was lucky is just 100% ignorant.

Eli was very good in the 2007 playoffs.

Furthermore, I actually like Eli...and his brother.

::runs and hides::

:laugh2:

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Romo is my favorite QB and I believe he is very talented but he will always be considered a choker even after he wins a Superbowl.

I don't think that statement has merit if Romo does manage to win a SB.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

Ben is better than Romo will ever be. His "defense" got shredded by the Cardinals and he led a game winning touchdown drive. You Romo defenders kill me.

What?
No.
Ben is a good QB, and he's clutch. However, just look at his stats....They are decent at most for a starting NFL QB. Those rings belong to his WR and his defense.
Romo makes plays, he has choked in December, but not on his own.
Had Crayton made the catch on that postseason game, these Romo criticisms would at least be reduced to small comments. Likewise, I can see how a demanding T.O. could get to you in December. Many of the picks he threw were balls forced to T.O.

Teams win as units, and both of these QBs show how it takes more than a QB to win in the postseason.

Romo is a far better QB, and when he wins his SB ring there will be little argumentative basis to put him in the same line as Eli, Ben, and some others. Give the man credit where is due, he has one of the highest career QB ratings ever, and his completion rate is really high.

Ben is a good leader and a great ball manager, but he does not have the stats and for the most part his victories belong to his defense.

 

[stilltheguru]

What?
No.
Ben is a good QB, and he's clutch. However, just look at his stats....They are decent at most for a starting NFL QB. Those rings belong to his WR and his defense.
Romo makes plays, he has choked in December, but not on his own.
Had Crayton made the catch on that postseason game, these Romo criticisms would at least be reduced to small comments. Likewise, I can see how a demanding T.O. could get to you in December. Many of the picks he threw were balls forced to T.O.

Teams win as units, and both of these QBs show how it takes more than a QB to win in the postseason.

Romo is a far better QB, and when he wins his SB ring there will be little argumentative basis to put him in the same line as Eli, Ben, and some others. Give the man credit where is due, he has one of the highest career QB ratings ever, and his completion rate is really high.

Ben is a good leader and a great ball manager, but he does not have the stats and for the most part his victories belong to his defense.

It's not TOs fault Romo threw into 3 Steeler players for his first interception in the Steeler game. Thats Romo for ya. Who cares about stats? Brady didn't have the stats until Randy came to town. Ben threw for 30 plus tds without a legit pro bowl wr unlike Tony. Lets really talk facts here. Ben>>Tony no matter how you slice it. I would be a happy man if we could trade for him right now, and im pretty sure Mr. Jones would happily do that trade too.

 

[sureletsrace]

It's not TOs fault Romo threw into 3 Steeler players for his first interception in the Steeler game. Thats Romo for ya. Who cares about stats? Brady didn't have the stats until Randy came to town. Ben threw for 30 plus tds without a legit pro bowl wr unlike Tony. Lets really talk facts here. Ben>>Tony no matter how you slice it. I would be a happy man if we could trade for him right now, and im pretty sure Mr. Jones would happily do that trade too.

You are nuts if you think JJ would trade Romo for Ben. Absolutely nuts.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

It's not TOs fault Romo threw into 3 Steeler players for his first interception in the Steeler game. Thats Romo for ya. Who cares about stats? Brady didn't have the stats until Randy came to town. Ben threw for 30 plus tds without a legit pro bowl wr unlike Tony. Lets really talk facts here. Ben>>Tony no matter how you slice it. I would be a happy man if we could trade for him right now, and im pretty sure Mr. Jones would happily do that trade too.

Similarly, it's not Romo's fault that Crayton and Fasano dropped two key passes in the playoff loss to the Giants.

 

[sureletsrace]

Similarly, it's not Romo's fault that Crayton and Fasano dropped two key passes in the playoff loss to the Giants.

The only time I can truly say that Romo choked, is in the Seattle loss. But honestly, he's the only reason we got there, and if Grammatica would have thrown ONE block then we wouldn't be having this conversation.