A. Rodgers = Q. Carter?

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I hate reliving the past especially with such a bright future ahead of us. However, Madden made a comment about Rodgers reads were only to one side of the field, does this ring a bell about anyone one else that we know?

In the long run Rodgers might develop into a very good NFL QB but if this limitation is true, not only is he light years behind Romo, he is far behind the average NFL starter.

What are your thoughts?
 
I don't think so. Rodgers has better talent, IMO, then Q ever did. I mean, he is 2-1 and in very good position to win his conference. I think GB and Rodgers will be fine. They just won't be good enough to win the NFC IMO.
 
adbutcher;2281220 said:
I hate reliving the past especially with such a bright future ahead of us. However, Madden made a comment about Rodgers reads were only to one side of the field, does this ring a bell about anyone one else that we know?

In the long run Rodgers might develop into a very good NFL QB but if this limitation is true, not only is he light years behind Romo, he is far behind the average NFL starter.

What are your thoughts?

Even Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, et al have had their share of bad games...and it wasn't only a couple or a few.

Rodgers is a young QB, he'll go through his share of growing pains and become a good one.

Quincy was never very good to begin with. We went to the playoffs in '03 IN SPITE of him.
 
I don't know what Madden is smoking, but the Packers have regularly used a 4 WR set and one of the most spread out offense in the NFL.
 
adbutcher;2281220 said:
I hate reliving the past especially with such a bright future ahead of us. However, Madden made a comment about Rodgers reads were only to one side of the field, does this ring a bell about anyone one else that we know?

In the long run Rodgers might develop into a very good NFL QB but if this limitation is true, not only is he light years behind Romo, he is far behind the average NFL starter.

What are your thoughts?


That anyone who has seen Rodgers play and readily compares him to Quincy Carter has no clue about the game of football, none. Rodgers is so much further ahead than Quincy was at any point of his career, it just boggles the mind that someone could even attempt to make this comparison.
 
ABQCOWBOY;2281236 said:
I don't think so. Rodgers has better talent, IMO, then Q ever did. I mean, he is 2-1 and in very good position to win his conference. I think GB and Rodgers will be fine. They just won't be good enough to win the NFC IMO.

I agree about the level of talent that surrounds Rodgers. However, my point that I poorly articulated is this. He is limited to reading one side of the field in an offense that he had been in for more then 3 years, what does that say about his ability as a QB?
 
adbutcher;2281260 said:
I agree about the level of talent that surrounds Rodgers. However, my point that I poorly articulated is this. He is limited to reading one side of the field in an offense that he had been in for more then 3 years, what does that say about his ability as a QB?

My beef with Madden is that he talks WWWWAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too much.

I like his analysis quite a bit, but b/c he never takes a breather, he ends up saying alot of things that don't even make sense.

Not saying he was incorrect about what he saw from Rodgers, but from what I've seen of him, he's not exactly like that.
 
Boysboy;2281241 said:
Even Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, et al have had their share of bad games...and it wasn't only a couple or a few.

Rodgers is a young QB, he'll go through his share of growing pains and become a good one.

Quincy was never very good to begin with. We went to the playoffs in '03 IN SPITE of him.

I am not harping on his game against us. I was pointing out that his progression is only to one side of the field. If they don't expand on his reads this will spell trouble as the D coordinators start to game plan him as such. We already saw evidence of this when we played them, it will only get worse, imo.

What makes the NFL so great is the ability of coordinators making their opponents work with their weakest hand.
 
InmanRoshi;2281247 said:
I don't know what Madden is smoking, but the Packers have regularly used a 4 WR set and one of the most spread out offense in the NFL.

They can go spread, duce/duce, trips open, etc and Rodgers's reads can still be to one side of the field.

I haven't rewatched the game yet, but that is one thing that I will pay more attention to.
 
gambit187;2281276 said:
I thought

Jason Campbell=Quincy Carter
Me too. Now there are three Quincy Carter's? This sounds like a Wayans brothers movie.
 
Skinsmaniac;2281280 said:
Me too. Now there are three Quincy Carter's? This sounds like a Wayans brothers movie.

I honestly thought Leftwhich would be a QC
 
When Madden said that about Rodgers only reading half of the field I understood it to be in the context of hot reads for blitzes. Not for normal plays.
 
ABQCOWBOY;2281236 said:
I don't think so. Rodgers has better talent, IMO, then Q ever did. I mean, he is 2-1 and in very good position to win his conference. I think GB and Rodgers will be fine. They just won't be good enough to win the NFC IMO.


I agree Rodgers looks more talented. Lets see how he looks with a few training camps and seasons under his belt.

2-1, Heck Quincy had us at 5-1 at one point right? :laugh1:
 
Rodgers has the accuracy that Carter only wished he had.

Running a "West Coast" type of offense isn't easy. Bledsoe couldn't do it
in Buffalo and I doubt Quincy had the capability to do it either.
 
cowboys2233;2281248 said:
That anyone who has seen Rodgers play and readily compares him to Quincy Carter has no clue about the game of football, none. Rodgers is so much further ahead than Quincy was at any point of his career, it just boggles the mind that someone could even attempt to make this comparison.

Your reading comprehension is slow so let me break it down for you. This is the essential question that I was asking.

However, Madden made a comment about Rodgers reads were only to one side of the field, does this ring a bell about anyone one else that we know?

To a less informed person such as me; this tactic is normally used to simplify the game plan for a slow developing QB. For example, if 3 or 4 WRs are in the route, he is only looking at the combination routes of maybe two WRs (3 if they are trying to flood the zone) to one side of the field. The Mannings, Bradies, and Romo(s) of the world use the entire field to their advantage.

The aforementioned tactic was used for Quincy when he was here and it lead to a degree of success until the D coordinators understood our tendencies and made us do something else. It is not a stretch comparison between Rodgers and Carter considering Rodgers has been in the same offense for more then 3 years and he is still operating with training wheels on.

Also, I have a suggestion for you, instead of gloating about your football intellect :rolleyes: go back and rewatch the game and try see whether my premise is a fact instead of going off of an knee jerk assumption.
 
adbutcher;2281308 said:
Your reading comprehension is slow so let me break it down for you. This is the essential question that I was asking.



To a less informed person such as me; this tactic is normally used to simplify the game plan for a slow developing QB. For example, if 3 or 4 WRs are in the route, he is only looking at the combination routes of maybe two WRs (3 if they are trying to flood the zone) to one side of the field. The Mannings, Bradies, and Romo(s) of the world use the entire field to their advantage.

The aforementioned tactic was used for Quincy when he was here and it lead to a degree of success until the D coordinators understood our tendencies and made us do something else. It is not a stretch comparison between Rodgers and Carter considering Rodgers has been in the same offense for more then 3 years and he is still operating with training wheels on.

Also, I have a suggestion for you, instead of gloating about your football intellect :rolleyes: go back and rewatch the game and try see whether my premise is a fact instead of going off of an knee jerk assumption.


Honestly AB I think a lot of QB's in the NFL are taught this way, we as fans
just don't hear about it often.

I heard that the offensive coordinator for the Titans has cut the field down to 1/8th for Vince Young. :D
 
big dog cowboy;2281299 said:
A. Rodgers > Q. Carter

In every way possible on the field.

Except when reading coverages, in that case A. Rodgers = Q. Carter.:)
 

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