A. Rodgers = Q. Carter?

[Skinsmaniac]

Aaron Rogers doesn't remind me of Quincy Carter at all.

Even though he got to sit for 3 years, this is Aaron Roger's first year starting, so they still want to bring him on slowly and let him build his confidence up.

Also, Aaron Rogers is way better at avoiding turnovers and he is much more accurate than Quincy Carter.

However, I still believe Quincy Carter had talent to play at the NFL leve. He has huge mental problems and the last thing he needed was to be starting his rookie season. They should have brought the guy along slowly just like they are doing with Aaron Rogers.

I definitely believe that a guy should sit before starting. I know Peyton Manning says it was good for him to start right away, but he's the rare player who can handle it. Maybe QC would have turned out alright if he had been given some time to learn about the NFL before taking the field.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think Rodgers is better suited for the "West Coast Offense" than what Campbell is in Washington... That kid takes an awfully long time to set-up and complete his throwing motion. He reminds me of Drew Bledsoe.

 

[cowboys2233]

I didn't see him being limited to one side of the field. Like someone mentioned, I think he may limit his hot reads to half the field which isn't that unusual esp for a QB in their first year as starter.

Rodgers is a pretty good QB. And that's one reason why they didn't want Favre back. Rodgers will never be as talented as Favre but he may be better at winning. Perhaps I should say better at not losing.

"Talent" comes in many forms. Rodgers may not have the arm that Favre has (or had), but he has more mobility and a better grasp of reading defenses than Favre ever did, or will have. You'll have to define talent before I get on board with saying Rodgers will never be as talented as Favre.

 

[cowboys2233]

This hardly means that he only reads half the field on every single play or formation. There are plenty of examples of QC doing the same thing in his day. In 2002, against the Titans in week 2, I recall a play where he scanned the entire field, rolled to right, and threw across his body to a wide open receiver for a TD on the left side.

Madden would only make that comment if it came from Rodgers or someone else within the Packers organization. He is a bit old and borderline senile, but he doesn't make stuff up.

Quincy used to pretend to look to the other side of the field, but to the trained eye, it was all B.S. He simply did it to look like he was scanning the field, when in reality, he was planning to go to his first (and only) option all along. Rodgers is an actual quarterback and really does look through his options. Not only that, but when he's scrambling, he keeps his eyes downfield looking for receivers getting open. Did you see some of those ridiculously good off balance passes that he made at the last possible second before getting drilled? He did that on his first TD pass against the Vikings and did it on a couple of occasions against us.

Trust me, when Quincy decided to run, looking for receivers downfield was the last thing on his mind.

Sorry, but IMO the quarterback Rodgers reminds me of most is one Tony Romo, and that is a very good thing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Aaron Rogers doesn't remind me of Quincy Carter at all.

Even though he got to sit for 3 years, this is Aaron Roger's first year starting, so they still want to bring him on slowly and let him build his confidence up.

Also, Aaron Rogers is way better at avoiding turnovers and he is much more accurate than Quincy Carter.

However, I still believe Quincy Carter had talent to play at the NFL leve. He has huge mental problems and the last thing he needed was to be starting his rookie season. They should have brought the guy along slowly just like they are doing with Aaron Rogers.

I don't think there is any question that QC had enough talent to play in the NFL. Maybe not start but he could have had a heck of a career as a backup or the like.

The Mental thing was the issue. In hindsight, that's clear. However, the guy was a good enough talent, IMO, to have a place in the NFL.

 

[Mash]

Its funny....

Rodgers only reads half the field and its ok.......Carter supposely was asked to the same and it was because to some ....he was too dumb...

Last nite.....the MNF crew said....Farve struggles because he is learning a new system.......and never had to study because he was always in the same system in GB....then they started making excuses that it takes a QB years to learn the system..

But Carter had a new system every year he played here.....when he struggled...it was because he was a pathetic Qb....

Such a double standard.....

I guess....some get the benefit of the doubt....others are just pegged losers.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Its funny....

Rodgers only reads half the field and its ok.......Carter supposely was asked to the same and it was because to some ....he was too dumb...

Last nite.....the MNF crew said....Farve struggles because he is learning a new system.......and never had to study because he was always in the same system in GB....then they started making excuses that it takes a QB years to learn the system..

But Carter had a new system every year he played here.....when he struggled...it was because he was a pathetic Qb....

Such a double standard.....

I guess....some get the benefit of the doubt....others are just pegged losers.

According to Jaws.... Frett Barve will have the system down pat by the time he is 50.

 

[cowboys2233]

I don't think there is any question that QC had enough talent to play in the NFL. Maybe not start but he could have had a heck of a career as a backup or the like.

The Mental thing was the issue. In hindsight, that's clear. However, the guy was a good enough talent, IMO, to have a place in the NFL.

a) The mental part of the game is THE biggest part of it -- if he didn't have the ability to read defenses and scan the field for second, third and fourth options, he was NOT a good enough talent. Again, that is the biggest differentiator between the college and pro games and why so many highly regarded college QBs utterly fail at the next level.

b) Why on earth are we choosing to rehash some of the darkest days in Cowboys history? Quincy was a clueless idiot. Bring him along slowly? Why, so we could waste more time and have an even bigger pothead on the payroll?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Its funny....

Rodgers only reads half the field and its ok.......Carter supposely was asked to the same and it was because to some ....he was too dumb...

Last nite.....the MNF crew said....Farve struggles because he is learning a new system.......and never had to study because he was always in the same system in GB....then they started making excuses that it takes a QB years to learn the system..

But Carter had a new system every year he played here.....when he struggled...it was because he was a pathetic Qb....

Such a double standard.....

I guess....some get the benefit of the doubt....others are just pegged losers.

Let it go already.

:laugh2:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

a) The mental part of the game is THE biggest part of it -- if he didn't have the ability to read defenses and scan the field for second, third and fourth options, he was NOT a good enough talent. Again, that is the biggest differentiator between the college and pro games and why so many highly regarded college QBs utterly fail at the next level.

b) Why on earth are we choosing to rehash some of the darkest days in Cowboys history? Quincy was a clueless idiot. Bring him along slowly? Why, so we could waste more time and have an even bigger pothead on the payroll?

No, this is wrong IMO. QBall had the ability to run an offense. He was not a Pro Bowl type QB, IMO, but he certainly could have been a guy who a team could have signed as a decent back up QB. I mean, QC was not the worst QB I've ever seen. He was just limited as to how good he could be.

 

[cowboys2233]

Its funny....

Such a double standard.....

I guess....some get the benefit of the doubt....others are just pegged losers.

Yeah, here comes the race card. Talk about a double standard. Quincy sucked and it doesn't matter if his skin was purple or blue. Henson and Hutch sucked too and I'm pretty sure they didn't get any benefit of the doubt either.

Quincy was named the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys and blew it because he decided smoking pot was more important. Jerry Jones does not tolerate drug abusers on his teams anymore, he had enough of that in the 90's to last him a life time.

 

[cowboys2233]

No, this is wrong IMO. QBall had the ability to run an offense. He was not a Pro Bowl type QB, IMO, but he certainly could have been a guy who a team could have signed as a decent back up QB. I mean, QC was not the worst QB I've ever seen. He was just limited as to how good he could be.

I thought he was relatively accurate and had decent mobility and from that standpoint, he was better than a lot of the jokers who come down the road, true. But without a true ability to scan the field, he was not a QB who could ever be trusted in a big situation and therefore, not a valid option.

If you do think he was a QB that could go through his progressions, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Quincy used to pretend to look to the other side of the field, but to the trained eye, it was all B.S. He simply did it to look like he was scanning the field, when in reality, he was planning to go to his first (and only) option all along. Rodgers is an actual quarterback and really does look through his options. Not only that, but when he's scrambling, he keeps his eyes downfield looking for receivers getting open. Did you see some of those ridiculously good off balance passes that he made at the last possible second before getting drilled? He did that on his first TD pass against the Vikings and did it on a couple of occasions against us.

Trust me, when Quincy decided to run, looking for receivers downfield was the last thing on his mind.

Sorry, but IMO the quarterback Rodgers reminds me of most is one Tony Romo, and that is a very good thing.

This has got to be one of the worst assesments of a QB I have ever seen, especially when it is done so emphatically and accompanied with the words "trust me".

Also, Aaron Rogers is not even remotely similar to Tony Romo in any regards. Tony Romo is much more similar to Aaron Rogers' predecessor.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Even Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, et al have had their share of bad games...and it wasn't only a couple or a few.

Rodgers is a young QB, he'll go through his share of growing pains and become a good one.

Quincy was never very good to begin with. We went to the playoffs in '03 IN SPITE of him.

q car was not great but he did his job that season, up until game six he has ranked pretty high in the league as far as passing yards. he never had a legit running back, and only one decent receiver. cut the dude some slack.

 

[cowboys2233]

This has got to be one of the worst assesments of a QB I have ever seen, especially when it is done so emphatically and accompanied with the words "trust me".

Also, Aaron Rogers is not even remotely similar to Tony Romo in any regards. Tony Romo is much more similar to Aaron Rogers' predecessor.

You're just parroting what the media tells you, which is sheep-like mentality. Tony Romo and Brett Favre have completely different games and the media just likes to play on the fact that Tony Romo, as a Wisconsin native, liked Brett Favre, the Green Bay QB. Give me a break. Better yet, watch them all play and come up with an opinion of your own, rather than blindly follow the media rantings.

 

[adbutcher]

"Talent" comes in many forms. Rodgers may not have the arm that Favre has (or had), but he has more mobility and a better grasp of reading defenses than Favre ever did, or will have. You'll have to define talent before I get on board with saying Rodgers will never be as talented as Favre.

So you really believe what you just said? When will Rodgers trip to Canton take place?

 

[Martice]

You're just parroting what the media tells you, which is sheep-like mentality. Tony Romo and Brett Favre have completely different games and the media just likes to play on the fact that Tony Romo, as a Wisconsin native, liked Brett Favre, the Green Bay QB. Give me a break. Better yet, watch them all play and come up with an opinion of your own, rather than blindly follow the media rantings.

Well Quincy was not as bad as some make him out to be. In fact, it is not a stretch to believe that if it were not for his weed problem, he may have been the starter that year and our beloved Romo would be playing elsewhere. I think it's easy to assume why a QB didn't pan out in a particular system but we can all say that his failure can be attributed to a few things. Some obvious and some not so obvious.

I think the kid did alright with what he was given. Like someone said earlier, he had to learn numerous systems coming up and not including the everyday pressures of just playing the game. It's hard enough to let a first round QB play his rookie year but QC was not a true second rounder if you ask me and would've benefited from learning on the sideline to possibly reach his full potential in this league.

Oh well, we know how the rest went and it is water under the bridge but Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench and had the chance to learn. His rope should be shorter than a rookie's. Let's see how he does.

 

[EPL0c0]

I think its more a factor of basically not being on the field in a meaningful game in 3+ years. Development wise, things like being able to read the whole field will come as he gets more comfortable with his WRs and with more trust he puts into his OLine's ability to protect him. He'll relax and the field will open up for him. I think that's something we saw last year for Romo and see even more so this year.

 

[adbutcher]

I think its more a factor of basically not being on the field in a meaningful game in 3+ years. Development wise, things like being able to read the whole field will come as he gets more comfortable with his WRs and with more trust he puts into his OLine's ability to protect him. He'll relax and the field will open up for him. I think that's something we saw last year for Romo and see even more so this year.

That may be the case but that wasn' the case for that fella in your sig. Thank goodnes for that.

 

[Rack]

I hate reliving the past especially with such a bright future ahead of us. However, Madden made a comment about Rodgers reads were only to one side of the field, does this ring a bell about anyone one else that we know?

In the long run Rodgers might develop into a very good NFL QB but if this limitation is true, not only is he light years behind Romo, he is far behind the average NFL starter.

What are your thoughts?

Quincy Carter isn't the first and only QB in NFL history that had oCoords making gameplans for where he only had to read half the field.


And No, Rodgers doesn't = Quincy Carter.