A thought about TO's work ethic

Apollo Creed;2613799 said:
A story of T.O's toughness.

I broke my left fibula on December 19th, slipped my whole foot sideways and had to reduce it myself in the woods. Same exact day, five years ago, Roy Williams horse collars Owens in Philly and does a similar spiral fracture to Owens' right fibula.

I didn't require surgery, my bone alligned back well, and today Super Bowl Sunday - I'm able to walk partially with one crutch. I've done hours of therapy daily, taken countless supplements, and prior to the injury I was in the best shape of my life.

Owens, snapped his bone directly in the middle, had surgery with a plate and screws put in - and two weeks before the Super Bowl he was able to run.

He played that Sunday and balled out of his mind, had to be going through agonizing pain, and carried his team. No way he was near 70% for that game, and he was playing through pain none of us could imagine.

I want guys like that on my team, even if they only do it for themselves.

Yeah this thread premise was ridiculous.
 
YoMick;2613816 said:
1. Yet more than half of his former team mates said they would want him on their team. Fact.

You know this for a fact? You took a poll of all his former teammates? How about sometimes people lie to end stupid questioning they'd rather not talk about? How about the fact that a lot a players, like most people, would rather not say something negative about someone?

My point is, just because there have been reports that some guys like him, you can't prop that up as justification that it's true. Yes, no doubt some teammates and former teammates like him. He's somewhat charismatic in that way and appeals to the ego of other guys who want to say "it's about me."

2. He wants the ball - so what - he wants to win - he wants the Cowboys to win.

Then why did he have an interview with Deion after to that point, our biggest win of the year complaining about not getting the ball and problems with the offense?

4a.) We lost 1st playoff game for many reasons. While its popular to blame Bill and/or Romo (which I wont) TO was not the reason.

He didn't help us win it either. I think that was the point.

4 b.) Patrick Crayton

One of the "friends" of TO who since he opened his mouth like his friend really hasn't done jack.
 
Dave_in-NC;2613887 said:
Aikman Homer?:lmao: I think not, but I am definitely more interested in what a three time SB winning, six pro bowl, HF QB has to say rather than what you have to say. I think he might know a tad bit more.

Call me crazy.

Not to mention Aikman has the benefit of seeing the entire field and the routes develop in the entirety while broadcasting the game. Which we as fans on our TV cannot.
 
DallasEast;2613962 said:
Let's also include this fact from a former team while we're at it.

Wherever he goes, players will gravitate to Owens. That's a fact which no one can deny. He is one of the most charismatic players to ever play in the National Football League. That isn't the issue.

The issue is whether or not he negatively affects the inner chemistry of a franchise and to what degree. If personal popularity were his strongest asset, he would still be a 49er. At the very least, he should still be an Eagle, who may have won a Super Bowl by now. It has not been. So the question becomes how it has suddenly become his strongest asset when it failed him elsewhere and he has not changed his personality one bit?

Precisely.
 
Arch Stanton;2613951 said:
Let's not forget Michael Irvin telling the WR's to get open. ;)

Does he post here? Surely he knows nothing compared to some of these formites.;)
 
Dave_in-NC;2614044 said:
Does he post here? Surely he knows nothing compared to some of these formites.;)

I wish he would. He talks a lot of sense. Him and Darren Woodson. :)
 
odog422;2614025 said:
You know this for a fact? You took a poll of all his former teammates? How about sometimes people lie to end stupid questioning they'd rather not talk about? How about the fact that a lot a players, like most people, would rather not say something negative about someone?

My point is, just because there have been reports that some guys like him, you can't prop that up as justification that it's true. Yes, no doubt some teammates and former teammates like him. He's somewhat charismatic in that way and appeals to the ego of other guys who want to say "it's about me."



Then why did he have an interview with Deion after to that point, our biggest win of the year complaining about not getting the ball and problems with the offense?



He didn't help us win it either. I think that was the point.



One of the "friends" of TO who since he opened his mouth like his friend really hasn't done jack.

Nothing less to say after your response here. Silly logic to think TO is anything more than the team cancer he was on 2 former teams. Fact.
 
DallasEast;2613962 said:
Let's also include this fact from a former team while we're at it.

Wherever he goes, players will gravitate to Owens. That's a fact which no one can deny. He is one of the most charismatic players to ever play in the National Football League. That isn't the issue.

The issue is whether or not he negatively affects the inner chemistry of a franchise and to what degree. If personal popularity were his strongest asset, he would still be a 49er. At the very least, he should still be an Eagle, who may have won a Super Bowl by now. It has not been. So the question becomes how it has suddenly become his strongest asset when it failed him elsewhere and he has not changed his personality one bit?


You are right. But what you posted isnt the issue either. Even if the media and fans want to.... wish to make it the issue.

The issue is: He is a major weapon on an already good team. Use him as such.

We win.



odog422;2614025 said:
You know this for a fact? You took a poll of all his former teammates? How about sometimes people lie to end stupid questioning they'd rather not talk about? How about the fact that a lot a players, like most people, would rather not say something negative about someone?

My point is, just because there have been reports that some guys like him, you can't prop that up as justification that it's true. Yes, no doubt some teammates and former teammates like him. He's somewhat charismatic in that way and appeals to the ego of other guys who want to say "it's about me."



Then why did he have an interview with Deion after to that point, our biggest win of the year complaining about not getting the ball and problems with the offense?



He didn't help us win it either. I think that was the point.



One of the "friends" of TO who since he opened his mouth like his friend
really hasn't done jack.


Your stance is well documented, understood and respected.

I wont dig up the threads and articles where most of this team mates especially in Philly wanted him on team. Its out there.

So people say nice things just to avoid saying bad things... lol.... I see that argument is usually to back up someone's bias. Ignore that they said positive things. Pretty funny.

The Bold is flat out hilarious. Read it to yourself. You will see the "hilarity" in it.
:lmao:
 
dadymat;2613570 said:
1)True

2)False--to run a correct route one must run it to the end...he gives up on routes..

3) how do you know ? ...maybe its improvised by the QB ,hard to say cause like you said ......no one knows the play ..and i wouldnt say he catches most of the passes thrown his way....maybe half

4)as for the "The WR Godfather" tutelage......should we praise him forteaching these guys this crap?......running the mouth, complaining of roles and game plans, poor rout running, and throwing coaches under bus........NEXT


He learned from the greatest of all time...Rice was the biggest buttclown in the league. look at all the stories surfacing over the last few years about what a ME player he really was....even when the team was winning, he wanted all the glory, all the catches, all the stats to go his way. He definitely didnt like sharing. He was the Veruca Salt of WRs.
 
DallasEast;2613962 said:
Let's also include this fact from a former team while we're at it.

Wherever he goes, players will gravitate to Owens. That's a fact which no one can deny. He is one of the most charismatic players to ever play in the National Football League. That isn't the issue.

The issue is whether or not he negatively affects the inner chemistry of a franchise and to what degree. If personal popularity were his strongest asset, he would still be a 49er. At the very least, he should still be an Eagle, who may have won a Super Bowl by now. It has not been. So the question becomes how it has suddenly become his strongest asset when it failed him elsewhere and he has not changed his personality one bit?


How about this gem, from the man himself, Tony Dorsett, in "quotes". Let the "lovers" shew on that for awhile.


I wandered into the middle of a television interview Thursday morning with Dorsett in the media center. Outspoken and blunt, Dorsett said, "Chemistry issues and distractions in the locker room are a major issue, and something needs to be done immediately. You can’t have that."

Without being prompted, Dorsett brought up one name in particular. "I don’t know what it is with Terrell Owens," he said. "He is a cancer or a poison for this team.

"But unless someone thinks they can come up with a remedy or a cure for this guy, then T.O. needs to find a new home immediately."
 
5Stars;2614161 said:
How about this gem, from the man himself, Tony Dorsett, in "quotes". Let the "lovers" shew on that for awhile.


I wandered into the middle of a television interview Thursday morning with Dorsett in the media center. Outspoken and blunt, Dorsett said, "Chemistry issues and distractions in the locker room are a major issue, and something needs to be done immediately. You can’t have that."

Without being prompted, Dorsett brought up one name in particular. "I don’t know what it is with Terrell Owens," he said. "He is a cancer or a poison for this team.

"But unless someone thinks they can come up with a remedy or a cure for this guy, then T.O. needs to find a new home immediately."

You gonna put that poor attempt at a point in every thread? :lmao2:
 
5Stars;2614174 said:
It stings, doesn't it...!


:cool:

No. Actually it doesn't. It's one man's opinion. That happens to be a man I grew to know & love back in the day (no homo) but every person can be mistaken every once in awhile. No one is perfect. TD got this one dead wrong. ;)
 
Biggems;2614137 said:
He learned from the greatest of all time...Rice was the biggest buttclown in the league. look at all the stories surfacing over the last few years about what a ME player he really was....even when the team was winning, he wanted all the glory, all the catches, all the stats to go his way. He definitely didnt like sharing. He was the Veruca Salt of WRs.


You had better hope that DCFanatic doesnt see this post.
It will bring back BAD memories for him.


Oh my!
 
Bleu Star;2614221 said:
No. Actually it doesn't. It's one man's opinion. That happens to be a man I grew to know & love back in the day (no homo) but every person can be mistaken every once in awhile. No one is perfect. TD got this one dead wrong. ;)


One man that knows football inside and out is Parcells...he's another one that did not want or like "the player"!

The list goes on and on...lover boy.


;)
 
5Stars;2614230 said:
One man that knows football inside and out is Parcells...he's another one that did not want or like "the player"!

The list goes on and on...lover boy.


;)


Dony overdo it on Parcells.

He remains SB winless without Belichick.
 
YoMick;2614232 said:
Dony overdo it on Parcells.

He remains SB winless without Belichick.


I'm just adding him to the list of great football minds that say the same thing...

TO must go.

;)
 
5Stars;2614237 said:
I'm just adding him to the list of great football minds that say the same thing...

TO must go.

;)

Nice to share some common ground with you on this one. :)
 
5Stars;2614230 said:
One man that knows football inside and out is Parcells...he's another one that did not want or like "the player"!

The list goes on and on...lover boy.


;)

5-11 if we don't add equal or greater value for what we lose if we go down the road you so desire hater boy. ;)
 

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