A thread for pick #47

[ABQCOWBOY]

I watched all of the snaps that Weems took in the preseason with the Cowboys.

I can't say that anything is definite with him, but I can see the upside. He reminded me of Leary in the 2012 preseason in that you could see NFL physical ability, but he needed to develop as an NFL player.

I've studied Parnell and Free more than any other players, ever. I watched every snap that Parnell has taken with the Cowboys in both preseason and regular season games at least 10in time each. I'm completely convinced that he would be better than Free if he had the chance to start about 4 games. He has maxed out as a practice player and can only get better if he is playing real games. He might make more mistakes in those first few games, but it wouldn't take long before he surpassed Free. He is much much stronger than Free and a little more athletic. He has shown the ability to overpower defenders which is something that Free has never done.

I'm not saying that Parnell would definitely be a great RT, but definitely better than Doug Free. Callahan wanted to start Parnell and bench Free in 2012, but "management" wanted to stay with the more experienced Free. The compromise was to rotate them in the final 4 games. In the 2013 preseason, Parnell was injured and missed all but one game. In that game he dominated the Bengals rookie 2nd round DE.

Free was better in 2013 but they did some things in the OL scheme to cover up his issues.

I am not convinced Parnell would be better then Free at RT. He certainly didn't look better then Free did, at the time. I watched all of Parnell's games as well and I do not see him being a great or even really good RT. I think he's a much better fit as a LT. Either way, what we are really talking about is to rely on the fact the Parnell or Weems can step in and be a starter. Based on all of the info we have now, that's not smart.

 

[XxTDxX]

most have lee going in the 1st round.
i could be on board with ward. (campaign slogan!)
Cyrus Kouandjio

I think Lee will be gone too but a man can hope. I know at least one of those guys will should be there though.

 

[tm1119]

I watched all of the snaps that Weems took in the preseason with the Cowboys.

I can't say that anything is definite with him, but I can see the upside. He reminded me of Leary in the 2012 preseason in that you could see NFL physical ability, but he needed to develop as an NFL player.

I've studied Parnell and Free more than any other players, ever. I watched every snap that Parnell has taken with the Cowboys in both preseason and regular season games at least 10in time each. I'm completely convinced that he would be better than Free if he had the chance to start about 4 games. He has maxed out as a practice player and can only get better if he is playing real games. He might make more mistakes in those first few games, but it wouldn't take long before he surpassed Free. He is much much stronger than Free and a little more athletic. He has shown the ability to overpower defenders which is something that Free has never done.

I'm not saying that Parnell would definitely be a great RT, but definitely better than Doug Free. Callahan wanted to start Parnell and bench Free in 2012, but "management" wanted to stay with the more experienced Free. The compromise was to rotate them in the final 4 games. In the 2013 preseason, Parnell was injured and missed all but one game. In that game he dominated the Bengals rookie 2nd round DE.

Free was better in 2013 but they did some things in the OL scheme to cover up his issues.

If Parnell was good enough to start he would have. No excuse for anything else. Management had an opportunity to save themselves money by going with Parnell. I highly doubt they balked at that opportunity for any reason other than the fact that Parnell wasn't good enough to handle the position full time.

 

[xwalker]

I am not convinced Parnell would be better then Free at RT. He certainly didn't look better then Free did, at the time. I watched all of Parnell's games as well and I do not see him being a great or even really good RT. I think he's a much better fit as a LT. Either way, what we are really talking about is to rely on the fact the Parnell or Weems can step in and be a starter. Based on all of the info we have now, that's not smart.

In the last post you said that you had not watched him in detail.

How many OTs can play Left but not right? It's normally the other way around.

You can't upgrade all the positions on the team. RT is one of few where they have an OK starter, a legit backup and a developmental player. Some positions don't even have legit starters and some don't have backups.

I'm not against drafting an OT if that's the best option, but it's far from "not smart" if they don't draft one. Not finding 2 backups OGs before training camp would be "not smart".

Ideally, drafting a player that could play OG or OT would be optimal.

 

[xwalker]

If Parnell was good enough to start he would have. No excuse for anything else. Management had an opportunity to save themselves money by going with Parnell. I highly doubt they balked at that opportunity for any reason other than the fact that Parnell wasn't good enough to handle the position full time.

Why did Callahan want to start him in 2012 then?

That was widely reported at the time or at least locally it was.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

In the last post you said that you had not watched him in detail.

How many OTs can play Left but not right? It's normally the other way around.

You can't upgrade all the positions on the team. RT is one of few where they have an OK starter, a legit backup and a developmental player. Some positions don't even have legit starters and some don't have backups.

I'm not against drafting an OT if that's the best option, but it's far from "not smart" if they don't draft one. Not finding 2 backups OGs before training camp would be "not smart".

Ideally, drafting a player that could play OG or OT would be optimal.

For me, detail is not watching a game. For me, it's sitting down and watching tape on just him. You are watching every single thing he does on each play. I have not done that with Parnell but to try and answer your question, There are guys who are suited to Left more so then Right. Lane is an example of this IMO.

I agree that you can't upgrade every position but economics come into play and no amount of rational will change that. This is a cap league and it does come into play. I think saying we have an OK starter and a legit backup and developmental player, if that is what you are saying, about RT is inaccurate. We have an OK RT who is up for contract and will get paid. We have nothing, so far as I am aware of, backing him up or developing at this point. Certainly nothing that I would feel good about as a starter in the next year or so. I am not saying that our situation is ideal at Guard but it's harder to find a tackle and it's more expensive to sign one in FA then it is a Guard. That's just how it works in the NFL.

It's not smart to allow ourselves to be so think at either position but here we are. I'd take the best player available in any given situation but if all things are equal and you have an option of a OT or G, I'm taking the OT. I do agree that a guy like Martin would be ideal.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Why did Callahan want to start him in 2012 then?

That was widely reported at the time or at least locally it was.

Is Callahan's opinion what any of us feel is beyond reproach? I think you have to factor that in.

 

[xwalker]

Is Callahan's opinion what any of us feel is beyond reproach? I think you have to factor that in.

If you don't believe a player's own OL coach, then nobody's opinion has value and the discussion might as well end.

There is your opinion, formed after kinda-sorta watching the player, but not in detail OR there is the opinion of a highly regarded OLine coach that works with the players in question every day.

The basis of your argument is that you are correct because you have a gut feel about it. Any evidence to the contrary must be wrong including the opinion of Bill Callahan.