A true blue chip player is what a 4th pick demands

[CCBoy]

Which of the following, would you take when the Cowboys come up to pick at #4?

Jared Goff QB
Myles Jack OLB
Laquon Treadwell WR
A'Shawn Anderson DT
Joey Bosa DE

As a comparative point to build from, Dallas already has 22 of 24 general starters on contract for next season:

Only LDE, Hardy, and MLB Rolando McClain aren't presently on contract...

 

[texbumthelife]

Which of the following, would you take when the Cowboys come up to pick at #4?

Jared Goff QB
Myles Jack OLB
Laquon Treadwell WR
A'Shawn Anderson DT
Joey Bosa DE

As a comparative point to build from, Dallas already has 22 of 24 general starters on contract for next season:

Only LDE, Hardy, and MLB Rolando McClain aren't presently on contract...

If you mean the weak side DE, Gregory is under contract.

It would be very hard for me not to take Bosa.

 

[CCBoy]

If you mean the weak side DE, Gregory is under contract.

It would be very hard for me not to take Bosa.

I didn't stutter, and your ears don't over lap...Hardy and McClain aren't currently under contract.

 

[texbumthelife]

I didn't stutter, and your ears don't over lap...Hardy and McClain aren't currently under contract.

So we do have a LDE under contract. Glad we cleared that up.

 

[CCBoy]

So we do have a LDE under contract. Glad we cleared that up.

Defensive end, on your continual play with words, has Lawrence under contract...who was a general starter. Not Hardy. Gregory has a whole chapter to be played out before he can be considered a starter under contract also. Run along or discuss what is presented for discussion.

Joey Bosa has merit, but you failed to discuss why and how he would be favored over other selections. And why do you feel he is a sure blue chipper...?

 

[texbumthelife]

Defensive end, on your continual play with words, has Lawrence under contract...who was a general starter. Not Hardy. Gregory has a whole chapter to be played out before he can be considered a starter under contract also. Run along or discuss what is presented for discussion.

Joey Bosa has merit, but you failed to discuss why and how he would be favored over other selections. And why do you feel he is a sure blue chipper...?

You didn't say we don't have what you think is a "starter", you said we don't have a LDE under contract. Perhaps a verbal sifter would help you to stop mincing your words so bad.

I like Bosa's versatility and motor. He is a proven commodity and, though I don't think he will eve be an elite pass rusher, I think he will do every thing at a high level. He allows us the opportunity to use a lot of different looks with guys like Gregory, Lawrence and Irving, as well as Crawford inside and out. Bosa is not scheme specific and is as adept at stopping the run as he is rushing the passer. He had been virtually unblockable one-on-one. I also think he has great value to this defense because of his intangibles.

If Goff is there, however, I expect the best option will be a trade back.

 

[texbumthelife]

It might steer my argument otherwise, if you could give me some background on this A'Shawn Anderson fellow.

 

[CCBoy]

As of now, the cornerbacks include Carr and Scandrick, (under contract)

At safety, there are Church and Jones...and a description of Jones, could be:

"I think he's going to be one of the great players of our No. 1 picks," executive vice president Stephen Jones said last month on KRLD-FM. "What he's been able to do, come in and play free safety, outside corner, nickel corner against their top slot receiver, nickel corner against their best tight end. I mean he does it all and does it in the middle of a game. That's unheard of."
http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...ss-report-cowboys-three-first-round-picks?f=r

That said, Church could receive a demotion due to coverage problems, and Carr could be let go, due to level of current contract.

If addressing a projected problem, would a CB such as Jalen Ramsey, be the top projected blue chip for Dallas?

 

[CCBoy]

You didn't say we don't have what you think is a "starter", you said we don't have a LDE under contract. Perhaps a verbal sifter would help you to stop mincing your words so bad.

I like Bosa's versatility and motor. He is a proven commodity and, though I don't think he will eve be an elite pass rusher, I think he will do every thing at a high level. He allows us the opportunity to use a lot of different looks with guys like Gregory, Lawrence and Irving, as well as Crawford inside and out. Bosa is not scheme specific and is as adept at stopping the run as he is rushing the passer. He had been virtually unblockable one-on-one. I also think he has great value to this defense because of his intangibles.

If Goff is there, however, I expect the best option will be a trade back.

Catch up to what is presented and not excuse for a counter. The first quote stated general starters, NOT contract players. As to QB, Moore is under CONTRACT.


As to discussion of a blue chip/top pick...would you project him in that realm when after a productive previous showing caused him to be a focus, and then not produce at top levels for collegiate play...make him a sure blue chip in the NFL? I wouldn't.

 

[texbumthelife]

As of now, the cornerbacks include Carr and Scandrick, (under contract)

At safety, there are Church and Jones...and a description of Jones, could be:

"I think he's going to be one of the great players of our No. 1 picks," executive vice president Stephen Jones said last month on KRLD-FM. "What he's been able to do, come in and play free safety, outside corner, nickel corner against their top slot receiver, nickel corner against their best tight end. I mean he does it all and does it in the middle of a game. That's unheard of."
http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...ss-report-cowboys-three-first-round-picks?f=r

That said, Church could receive a demotion due to coverage problems, and Carr could be let go, due to level of current contract.

If addressing a projected problem, would a CB such as Jalen Ramsey, be the top projected blue chip for Dallas?

Jalen Ramsey isn't and NFL corner.

 

[CCBoy]

It might steer my argument otherwise, if you could give me some background on this A'Shawn Anderson fellow.

Cornerback is a possibility, given that Morris Claiborne has been a bust and Brandon Carr’s last interception came in 2013. But an athletic, 6-foot-2 ¹/₂ , 315-pound bully to help keep people off Sean Lee and improve a run defense, ranked tied for 22nd with the Bears, fits the bill.

This year's Alabama group may be the cream of the collegiate level.

 

[texbumthelife]

Catch up to what is presented and not excuse for a counter. The first quote stated general starters, NOT contract players. As to QB, Moore is under CONTRACT.

Only LDE, Hardy, and MLB Rolando McClain aren't presently on contract...

As to discussion of a blue chip/top pick...would you project him in that realm when after a productive previous showing caused him to be a focus, and then not produce at top levels for collegiate play...make him a sure blue chip in the NFL? I wouldn't.

He still produced at a very high level with 51 TOT, 16 TFL, 4 PD, an INT and a FF. I've watched the tape. Given what he had to deal with on a regular basis from teams, I am not worried about the dip in his production.

 

[CCBoy]

Jalen Ramsey isn't and NFL corner.

If you are going to play dumb in every series of discussion, then take it somewhere else. Presented was a list of draftables needing to be a blue chip to justify selection at number four.

A comparison of needs was presented to show possible directions...now quit playing dumb.

 

[CCBoy]

He still produced at a very high level with 51 TOT, 16 TFL, 4 PD, an INT and a FF. I've watched the tape. Given what he had to deal with on a regular basis from teams, I am not worried about the dip in his production.

11 total sacks...lowest in Cowboy history, but you give an endorsement for a starter? Did he play last season or not?

 

[texbumthelife]

If you are going to play dumb in every series of discussion, then take it somewhere else. Presented was a list of draftables needing to be a blue chip to justify selection at number four.

A comparison of needs was presented to show possible directions...now quit playing dumb.

Let me clarify, I didn't realize it was hard to follow:

Jalen Ramsey played both safety and corner at FSU. I don't think he projects as a CB to the NFL, I think he projects as a safety.

 

[CCBoy]

Let me clarify, I didn't realize it was hard to follow:

Jalen Ramsey played both safety and corner at FSU. I don't think he projects as a CB to the NFL, I think he projects as a safety.

Only thing, topic was on blue chip type of players. Safeties in this entire draft, are ranked pretty low...

 

[texbumthelife]

11 total sacks...lowest in Cowboy history, but you give an endorsement for a starter? Did he play last season or not?

I was talking about Bosa in reply to this:

As to discussion of a blue chip/top pick...would you project him in that realm when after a productive previous showing caused him to be a focus, and then not produce at top levels for collegiate play...make him a sure blue chip in the NFL? I wouldn't.

Which I assumed was referring to Bosa since you quoted my post.

 

[texbumthelife]

Only thing, topic was on blue chip type of players. Safeties in this entire draft, are ranked pretty low...

If addressing a projected problem, would a CB such as Jalen Ramsey, be the top projected blue chip for Dallas?

Jalen Ramsey isn't and NFL corner.

Let me clarify, I didn't realize it was hard to follow:

Jalen Ramsey played both safety and corner at FSU. I don't think he projects as a CB to the NFL, I think he projects as a safety.

 

[CCBoy]

Projected cornerbacks:

Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson

With the play of Jones, you are suggesting bringing in another FS candidate, and make that Jalen Ramsey?

Why favor what you claim is a safety?

Early discussions have Ramsey as a strong cornerback. But if Carr is let go, you need this to be a strong outside corner. Does he fit?

 

[texbumthelife]

Projected cornerbacks:

Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson

With the play of Jones, you are suggesting bringing in another FS candidate, and make that Jalen Ramsey?

Why favor what you claim is a safety?

No, I am not suggesting bringing in Ramsey. I think he is overrated as a safety and even more as a corner. I think his natural position in the NFL will be at safety though.

Let me clarify:

• Jalen Ramsey is listed as a S/CB.
• I think Jalen Ramsey will be a S in the NFL. I don't think he is as good a corner.
• I don't want him at Safety or Corner.