A year-by-year look at how the Romo era has been wasted thus far

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Don't need to looks at stats to see how great he is, just they back up what most of us see. Statistics are a representation of how someone performs, and I'm sure you know this.

Hell, on second thought I think Geno Smith is the best QB in the NFL. I mean his QB rating is horrible, but stats don't tell the whole picture, it's just his team sucks. Let's ignore the fact that he's thrown more ints then tds, he's a helluva QB!

Yes but I'm sure you know that anyone can find a stat to support their narrative
 

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That just screams agenda. It can't be everybody but Romo's fault every time. Geez. Just admit he makes mistakes and move on.

Where have I said Romo doesn't make mistakes? Every QB makes mistakes, but people here like to act like Romo is the only good QB who throws game ending interceptions. Anyone looking at the Dallas Cowboys objectively could see the defense was the problem this year, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
 

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Yes but I'm sure you know that anyone can find a stat to support their narrative

I think I'll go with the stat that's PROVEN to correlate the highest to winning football games. We're not talking about some schmuck stat here, we're talking about one of the most important stats in all of football.
 

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Can anyone put together a list of teams and records that Romo has had "game winning" drive against? I ask this because his record against teams with winning records has been terrible over the last 6-7 years. This year the defense was very bad, then of course there was last here I believe the O-line was to blame. And so on for previous years. Does the defense sometimes put the offense in bad positions, yes. But lets not forget how this offense often times put the defense in bad positions. This offense does not take advantage of turnovers and doesn't take full advantage of each and every drive. I'm sure we could do an entire story on why most of Romo's picks come on 1st or 2nd down but no need to do that as his best days may now be well behind him.

What would such a list prove exactly? Every game situation is different. Game winning drives has never been about won/loss record, it's supposed to be some kind of ridiculous clutch meter or something. Sure a game winning drive against Cleveland is probably easier, but if you're actually in that position in the first place then something strenuous is going on.
 

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Where have I said Romo doesn't make mistakes? Every QB makes mistakes, but people here like to act like Romo is the only good QB who throws game ending interceptions. Anyone looking at the Dallas Cowboys objectively could see the defense was the problem this year, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
You are blaming the defense for romo throwing picks "because the D put him in the situation."
It's never Romo's fault in your eyes.
This is like me blaming romo for the defense sucking.
 

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You are blaming the defense for romo throwing picks "because the D put him in the situation."
It's never Romo's fault in your eyes.
This is like me blaming romo for the defense sucking.

When you throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs, and are still losing, yes that's your defenses fault.

When your defense blows a 20+ point lead while giving up 5 TDs in 5 straight possessions, which then puts your QB in a do or die situation, yes that's your defenses fault.

Are you seriously that blind? Keep grasping at straws man, at this point it's getting embarrassing ...

Also, I take it you're blaming Alex Smith for KC's epic collapse today as well, right? After all, when the game was on the line and they needed 3 points to win, he couldn't convert a 3rd/4th down and created a costly penalty. You have such a flawed, and silly view lol.
 

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I'm really over this whole Romo-hater/lover crap. I've been one of the biggest Romo-haters but I'm trying to get past it. I even started a thread trying to philosophize about the concept of clutch/choke.

Anyway, here is what I think... I don't think there are Romo-haters or Romo-lovers. I think there are people who are tired of giving Romo the benefit of the doubt and there are people who find any reason they can to give him the benefit of the doubt. Count me as one who is done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I think the narrative for Romo has been written, and no excuse is gonna change it. The only thing that's gonna change it is Romo proving everyone wrong. Look at his first two seasons. He's an undrated rookie who comes in for a defeated Cowboys team led by an over-the-hill Drew Bledsoe. He comes in and saves the season, turns the team around, is the biggest feel-good story in sports, makes the Pro Bowl (his only one), and leads him team to the playoffs. When the Seattle bobble happened, I think everyone just felt bad for him. Imagine if he had won that game. Even if they lost in the second round, it still would have been a great story and great accomplishment.

Then his second season comes around. He leads Dallas to the best record in the NFC at 13-3. They're a favorite to play the 16-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl. Imagine if he beat Seattle in his first year and lost in the Super Bowl in his second year. Those would be great accomplishments for the first two years of his career, and I believe everyone would start calling him elite and put him in the category of Brady, Peyton and Brees (this was before Rodgers).

But he didn't lead his team to success. I don't care who's fault it was. The bottom line is it didn't happen. Then the next 2-3 years were decent seasons with disappointing endings. And then the last 4 seasons were missed playoffs and epic Week 17 choke jobs.

I don't care who's fault it is or isn't. The bottom line is I'm done giving Romo the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he's just unlucky. If that's the case, I don't want a cursed QB leading my team. The bottom line is, the only person who can fix Romo's reputation is Romo. I'm waiting... but I'm done giving him the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Having one of the best QB ratings of all time isn't "mediocre", I'm sorry, you're either trolling or blind.

Neither..

Just going by W-L records and titles won vs a contemporary like..

Drew Bree's

Tom Brady

Joe Flacco

Nick Foles

Eli Manning

Payton Manning

Kapernick

Russell Wilson

Should I keep going?

All these QBs are better than Romo.

Becuz they win.
 

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Having one of the best QB ratings of all time isn't "mediocre", I'm sorry, you're either trolling or blind.

Neither..

Just going by W-L records and titles won vs a contemporary like..

Drew Bree's

Tom Brady

Joe Flacco

Nick Foles

Eli Manning

Payton Manning

Kapernick

Russell Wilson

Should I keep going?

All these QBs are better than Romo.

Becuz they win.
 

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What would such a list prove exactly? Every game situation is different. Game winning drives has never been about won/loss record, it's supposed to be some kind of ridiculous clutch meter or something. Sure a game winning drive against Cleveland is probably easier, but if you're actually in that position in the first place then something strenuous is going on.


Pretty simple Romo lacks consistency vs good teams. Is Romo 100% to blame for the teams shortfalls, no. Should he carry the highest percentage of the blame, yes. He has been given way to many weapons to believe otherwise. No one is arguing that the defense was bad this year. With that said what would happen if Romo lost Dez, Witten and Murray for the year? That is exactly what happend to this defense game after game. And yet this team not just the defense found creative ways to lose games, especially vs Green Bay and Detroit. So will Romo win you some games in the 4th, well it depends on the record of the other team. And if I am a betting man my money will always go against Romo vs a good team late in the 4th. You can throw your money away however you like though.
 

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Face-palm for anyone who thinks Romo is the problem. This team has been extremely lucky to have Romo and would not have sniffed the playoffs without him. Jerry and his pet Garrett are the big problems.
 

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Pretty simple Romo lacks consistency vs good teams. Is Romo 100% to blame for the teams shortfalls, no. Should he carry the highest percentage of the blame, yes. He has been given way to many weapons to believe otherwise. No one is arguing that the defense was bad this year. With that said what would happen if Romo lost Dez, Witten and Murray for the year? That is exactly what happend to this defense game after game. And yet this team not just the defense found creative ways to lose games, especially vs Green Bay and Detroit. So will Romo win you some games in the 4th, well it depends on the record of the other team. And if I am a betting man my money will always go against Romo vs a good team late in the 4th. You can throw your money away however you like though.

You aren't really going out on a limb there. Most QBs fail trying to go against good teams in the 4th... that's why they are good teams. I think you fall for the myth that there are quarterbacks who always come up with game winning drives every time they need to, without fail. It's more like a batting average... failing three times out of ten is a good average over all. I think you are going to be disappointed with the results if you think you are going to find something to make Romo look bad, because it's basically the same for all quarterbacks. I believe Brady ended three games with interceptions this year, and they were all against good teams. The NFL is hard.
 

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Hey! You can't deny that the guy puts up good statistics. Like I've said before, if your goal is to win your fantasy football league, you'd be hard pressed to find a better QB. If your goal is to win a SB, there are plenty of QB's I'd rather take my chances with.

You may be right but Rodgers, Brady, Manning's, Brees, Rothleisberger, and Flaco are all unavailable. Outside of these guys everyone else has as many Super Bowl wins as Romo so they all suck *** just like he does right?
 

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I'm really over this whole Romo-hater/lover crap. I've been one of the biggest Romo-haters but I'm trying to get past it. I even started a thread trying to philosophize about the concept of clutch/choke.

Anyway, here is what I think... I don't think there are Romo-haters or Romo-lovers. I think there are people who are tired of giving Romo the benefit of the doubt and there are people who find any reason they can to give him the benefit of the doubt. Count me as one who is done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I think the narrative for Romo has been written, and no excuse is gonna change it. The only thing that's gonna change it is Romo proving everyone wrong. Look at his first two seasons. He's an undrated rookie who comes in for a defeated Cowboys team led by an over-the-hill Drew Bledsoe. He comes in and saves the season, turns the team around, is the biggest feel-good story in sports, makes the Pro Bowl (his only one), and leads him team to the playoffs. When the Seattle bobble happened, I think everyone just felt bad for him. Imagine if he had won that game. Even if they lost in the second round, it still would have been a great story and great accomplishment.

Then his second season comes around. He leads Dallas to the best record in the NFC at 13-3. They're a favorite to play the 16-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl. Imagine if he beat Seattle in his first year and lost in the Super Bowl in his second year. Those would be great accomplishments for the first two years of his career, and I believe everyone would start calling him elite and put him in the category of Brady, Peyton and Brees (this was before Rodgers).

But he didn't lead his team to success. I don't care who's fault it was. The bottom line is it didn't happen. Then the next 2-3 years were decent seasons with disappointing endings. And then the last 4 seasons were missed playoffs and epic Week 17 choke jobs.

I don't care who's fault it is or isn't. The bottom line is I'm done giving Romo the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he's just unlucky. If that's the case, I don't want a cursed QB leading my team. The bottom line is, the only person who can fix Romo's reputation is Romo. I'm waiting... but I'm done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

So with you on this. It really is about whether you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I've seen enough to believe that try as he might, it's just not going to happen for him here. So I can't keep hoping its going to. I hope to be proven wrong but I have no evidence to believe I will. Let Romo prove you, me and everyone else who can't give him the benefit of the doubt anymore wrong.
 

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I'm really over this whole Romo-hater/lover crap. I've been one of the biggest Romo-haters but I'm trying to get past it. I even started a thread trying to philosophize about the concept of clutch/choke.

Anyway, here is what I think... I don't think there are Romo-haters or Romo-lovers. I think there are people who are tired of giving Romo the benefit of the doubt and there are people who find any reason they can to give him the benefit of the doubt. Count me as one who is done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I think the narrative for Romo has been written, and no excuse is gonna change it. The only thing that's gonna change it is Romo proving everyone wrong. Look at his first two seasons. He's an undrated rookie who comes in for a defeated Cowboys team led by an over-the-hill Drew Bledsoe. He comes in and saves the season, turns the team around, is the biggest feel-good story in sports, makes the Pro Bowl (his only one), and leads him team to the playoffs. When the Seattle bobble happened, I think everyone just felt bad for him. Imagine if he had won that game. Even if they lost in the second round, it still would have been a great story and great accomplishment.

Then his second season comes around. He leads Dallas to the best record in the NFC at 13-3. They're a favorite to play the 16-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl. Imagine if he beat Seattle in his first year and lost in the Super Bowl in his second year. Those would be great accomplishments for the first two years of his career, and I believe everyone would start calling him elite and put him in the category of Brady, Peyton and Brees (this was before Rodgers).

But he didn't lead his team to success. I don't care who's fault it was. The bottom line is it didn't happen. Then the next 2-3 years were decent seasons with disappointing endings. And then the last 4 seasons were missed playoffs and epic Week 17 choke jobs.

I don't care who's fault it is or isn't. The bottom line is I'm done giving Romo the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he's just unlucky. If that's the case, I don't want a cursed QB leading my team. The bottom line is, the only person who can fix Romo's reputation is Romo. I'm waiting... but I'm done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Doesn't matter if you're going to give him the benefit of the doubt or not.

He'll be the starting QB for a few more years yet.

You'd have to either watch him line up behind center for the Cowboys, or watch another team entirely.
 

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You may be right but Rodgers, Brady, Manning's, Brees, Rothleisberger, and Flaco are all unavailable. Outside of these guys everyone else has as many Super Bowl wins as Romo so they all suck *** just like he does right?
Those guys are definitely in a tier above guys like Romo. Amongst the QB's without a ring though, Romo still isn't in the top five. If Romo was 26, I'd be pumped about our future with him, but he's not. We have seen enough of him to know exactly what he is, a guy who will put up stats, but can't be relied on when the game is in his hands. I'll give him credit, sometimes he pulls a rabbit out of his hat (Washington game), but he's far too inconsistent to be reliable. Let me ask you, what's Romo's defining moment of his career?
 

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In all that- 2 things stand out.....

1. Romo injured

2. Missed passes.

Sounds like you could place 95% of the blame on Romo.

Personally....I'm ready to move on.

I found it very curious Romo came up lame w/ a bad back just when this under achieving team needed him most.....Just like Aikman's exit. Jerry is greasing this exit if things far apart again and both parties can save face.
 

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Those guys are definitely in a tier above guys like Romo. Amongst the QB's without a ring though, Romo still isn't in the top five. If Romo was 26, I'd be pumped about our future with him, but he's not. We have seen enough of him to know exactly what he is, a guy who will put up stats, but can't be relied on when the game is in his hands. I'll give him credit, sometimes he pulls a rabbit out of his hat (Washington game), but he's far too inconsistent to be reliable. Let me ask you, what's Romo's defining moment of his career?

Regardless of what you think of Romo, he's almost certainly going to be the starter in 2014 and 2015 - perhaps even longer than that.

Inconsistent? Unreliable? Too bad. You have to put up with him just like any other Cowboys fan.
 

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Regardless of what you think of Romo, he's almost certainly going to be the starter in 2014 and 2015 - perhaps even longer than that.

Inconsistent? Unreliable? Too bad. You have to put up with him just like any other Cowboys fan.

I'm fine with him being the starter for the next year or two. While we don't have a chance at winning a Super Bowl with Romo, or this current team, we have a hell of a lot better chance with Romo, rather than a rookie, or any FA QB. Having said that, I'd really like to see us start preparing for the future and draft a QB this year, and start grooming him.
 

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Orton was playing vs. GB and Denver? I was at both games and didn't even notice!

Denver?
Really?
Your using Denver as an example of where Romo was a failure?

The end of the GB was brutal though.
It should have never come to that anyway,but it did.

Odd that his failures are games where we score 48 and 36 points.
 
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