Adarius Bowman update.

[YosemiteSam]

Yeah, yeah...people would always say about Tony, "It's just pre-season. Wait til he plays real football."

I wonder how many players come in and put up stats like that in their first CFL game?

Are you comparing Bowman to Romo? Get off the drugs dude! Bowman is a stiff. You can see it in his play. Great receivers are fluid in their movement. Bowman is not. He played well in the CFL because he is a BIG target. In the NFL, he will play like a high schooler. This kid will NEVER make it in the NFL.

 

[aikemirv]

Are you comparing Bowman to Romo? Get off the drugs dude! Bowman is a stiff. You can see it in his play. Great receivers are fluid in their movement. Bowman is not. He played well in the CFL because he is a BIG target. In the NFL, he will play like a high schooler. This kid will NEVER make it in the NFL.

Just a question. Do you consider TO a "fluid " WR? I never watched Bowman play a game, but the highlight video I saw was of a fluid WR who was fast!

 

[FCBarca]

Here's the deal: how is it that every NFL team, stocked with without doubt the best talent scouts for pro football on earth, with every possible modern technique of background checks, with every willingness to gamble at least a low pick on absolute, incredible talent, could somehow pass on this guy unless there were major reasons to do so? Hell, Malcolm Kelly, who before the Combines was considered a lock for the first round, only dropped to the mid-second round after bad 40 times. And the dude is huge and a college playmaker. Somehow, he doesn't fall off the board, yet Adarius Bowman does. What does, and what should, that tell you?

Should tell you the power corporations have...NFL no different than any other...They're trying to protect a product and somehow smoking weed impacts that product enough for the 'braintrust' to blackball him.

If Pacman Jones gets a shot and Bowman doesn't that should tell you something...Otherwise, play closer attention to how corporations try to spin

 

[FCBarca]

How is it absolutely no factual basis? This report quoted an inside source.

What exactly are they trying to spin?

Bowman did not get drafted by a single team. There has to be reasons. Those reasons are not always the ones just reported in the media. Sometimes there is stuff that doesn't come out until later but it doesn't even have to be that sinister. The guy just failed to impress every NFL team with his combination of on field talent and off the field issues.

I think Bowman is talented, but at the same time he was not a once in a life time talent. I don't think he is as talented as Antonio Bryant, but he may be a bigger dope.

With the convicts, malcontents, etc. getting drafted every year what makes one college star WR the standout 'work ethic' issue?...I mean, exactly how much of an 'attitude' problem would this kid have to have had to be ENTIRELY blackballed by the league?...Not just not drafted but not even brought into camp when a lowly WR like Amendola is?...Antonio Bryant, among others, had attitude issues that were well documented but that sure didn't keep teams from going after him...Common sense people...There IS something else going on and it's not an attitude problem

This isn't vetting for a Vice presidential candidate, this is professional American football...All it takes is the slightest bit of thought to conclude that indeed there was something else going on here...Not one team taking a shot?...And the only plausible yet still incomprehensible issue was the weed.

Weed...The stuff a majority of kids are smoking, majority of college kids are smoking, great number of professional athletes are smoking etc...It stinks of conservative posturing by a giant and powerful corporation.

Case in point, an organization so desperately in need of WRs like Dallas somehow doesn't even invite him into camp as a FA when they've so clearly gone after attitude cases and problems in the past (TO, Tank, Pacman, etc.)?...Come on people, think

 

[dbair1967]

Here's the deal: how is it that every NFL team, stocked with without doubt the best talent scouts for pro football on earth, with every possible modern technique of background checks, with every willingness to gamble at least a low pick on absolute, incredible talent, could somehow pass on this guy unless there were major reasons to do so? Hell, Malcolm Kelly, who before the Combines was considered a lock for the first round, only dropped to the mid-second round after bad 40 times. And the dude is huge and a college playmaker. Somehow, he doesn't fall off the board, yet Adarius Bowman does. What does, and what should, that tell you?

Bingo!

Unfortunately its a concept that a few in this thread clearly didnt get.

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'd bet good money that with good health and proper training he could at least run 4.5s, probably break into 4.4s.

It was reported that the offseason before his senior season he was running 4.4s.

I wouldn't trust those numbers

 

[BuckyG]

Should tell you the power corporations have...NFL no different than any other...They're trying to protect a product and somehow smoking weed impacts that product enough for the 'braintrust' to blackball him.

If Pacman Jones gets a shot and Bowman doesn't that should tell you something...Otherwise, play closer attention to how corporations try to spin

How, then, do other guys with off-field issues, including smoking weed, get drafted? Isn't the Dallas Cowboys a corporation? If they were so intent on protecting the product, why bring in Adam Jones? Why didn't the dark cabal of NFL corporate automatons blackball him? Your implication that somehow these guys tolerate the kind of trouble Jones got into--which generated nothing but bad national press--but somehow have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to weed is ludicrous. Bowman's nobody. Who cares?

Bowman wasn't drafted because no one thought he was good enough when balanced with his off-the-field issues. Pretty simple math not requiring Byzantine conspiracy theories and cartoonish Hollywood portrayals of bloodless boardroom overlords.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What rock have you been under? Do you know who Adarius Bowman is?

Wait, nevermind, you're the guy that wanted us to cut Flozell Adams in 2006.

the rock that the closer the draft came, when the prospects were being scrutinized, Bowman fell into the 3rd/4th round range, before his horrible times and his arrest

 

[joseephuss]

With the convicts, malcontents, etc. getting drafted every year what makes one college star WR the standout 'work ethic' issue?...I mean, exactly how much of an 'attitude' problem would this kid have to have had to be ENTIRELY blackballed by the league?...Not just not drafted but not even brought into camp when a lowly WR like Amendola is?...Antonio Bryant, among others, had attitude issues that were well documented but that sure didn't keep teams from going after him...Common sense people...There IS something else going on and it's not an attitude problem

This isn't vetting for a Vice presidential candidate, this is professional American football...All it takes is the slightest bit of thought to conclude that indeed there was something else going on here...Not one team taking a shot?...And the only plausible yet still incomprehensible issue was the weed.

Weed...The stuff a majority of kids are smoking, majority of college kids are smoking, great number of professional athletes are smoking etc...It stinks of conservative posturing by a giant and powerful corporation.

Case in point, an organization so desperately in need of WRs like Dallas somehow doesn't even invite him into camp as a FA when they've so clearly gone after attitude cases and problems in the past (TO, Tank, Pacman, etc.)?...Come on people, think

You may be over thinking the issue. I seriously doubt the league conspired to keep Bowman away from every single team just because of his weed incident. It is just not that ominous. It was not an organized effort to keep him out of the league. It was just individual teams deciding that after their evaluations that he was not worth it for their teams. And that is not every team because some teams were not searching for receivers anyway.

I don't know a whole lot about Bowman, but what little I do know he comes off as an idiot. I am sure every NFL team knows a lot more about him. If it was some sort of conservative posturing, then other guys would not have been drafted as well. That didn't happen. This is specifically about Bowman and what he brings or does not bring to an NFL team.

How many wide receivers that have played at Oklahoma State are currently tearing it up in the NFL? How many wide receivers that have played in the entire Big XII conference are currently tearing it up in the NFL? You can get burned generalizing positions based on past players, but the track record for OSU and the Big XII is not great when it comes to wide receiver. You have Roy Williams and then not much else.

 

[FCBarca]

How, then, do other guys with off-field issues, including smoking weed, get drafted? Isn't the Dallas Cowboys a corporation? If they were so intent on protecting the product, why bring in Adam Jones? Why didn't the dark cabal of NFL corporate automatons blackball him? Your implication that somehow these guys tolerate the kind of trouble Jones got into--which generated nothing but bad national press--but somehow have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to weed is ludicrous. Bowman's nobody. Who cares?

Bowman wasn't drafted because no one thought he was good enough when balanced with his off-the-field issues. Pretty simple math not requiring Byzantine conspiracy theories and cartoonish Hollywood portrayals of bloodless boardroom overlords.

Simple, Pacman had already been a proven NFL commodity...He's a member of the league, he's a card holding member of the powerful player's union...Trying to blackball him comes with ramifications, big ones...Bowman is on the outside looking in...And, again, it's weed, not the things Pacman has been guilty of.

And as for others, what others?...If you're speaking of past transgressions with weed, that was then this is now...The new 'sheriff' in town has laid down the law and nothing short of a clean image is going to swing on through unless it is buried deep.

Yeah, Bowman wasn't drafted nor invited to any camps because kids like Amendola had far more to offer prospective teams?...Think, don't regurgitate

 

[FCBarca]

I don't know a whole lot about Bowman, but what little I do know he comes off as an idiot. I am sure every NFL team knows a lot more about him. If it was some sort of conservative posturing, then other guys would not have been drafted as well. That didn't happen. This is specifically about Bowman and what he brings or does not bring to an NFL team.

How many wide receivers that have played at Oklahoma State are currently tearing it up in the NFL? How many wide receivers that have played in the entire Big XII conference are currently tearing it up in the NFL? You can get burned generalizing positions based on past players, but the track record for OSU and the Big XII is not great when it comes to wide receiver. You have Roy Williams and then not much else.

Uhh, what other guys?...You know some other guys in this draft that skirted weed issues?

 

[joseephuss]

Uhh, what other guys?...You know some other guys in this draft that skirted weed issues?

Kansas CB Aqib Talib and Michigan WR Mario Manningham

The year before Calvin Johnson admitted to smoking marijuana in college. There was no way that guy was not going to be drafted.

 

[FCBarca]

Kansas CB Aqib Talib and Michigan WR Mario Manningham

The year before Calvin Johnson admitted to smoking marijuana in college. There was no way that guy was not going to be drafted.

Failing a college drug screening for weed isn't the same as being arrested for possession

 

[joseephuss]

Failing a college drug screening for weed isn't the same as being arrested for possession

There is no difference if this was part of some sort of conservative posturing against marijuana as you claimed. Of course there is a difference between Bowman's incident and the other players. Hence, he was not drafted.

 

[FCBarca]

There is no difference if this was part of some sort of conservative posturing against marijuana as you claimed. Of course there is a difference between Bowman's incident and the other players. Hence, he was not drafted.

And again, getting clipped for weed by the police bears no resemblance to failing a drug test in college for weed...Night and day and hence the 'reason' why one didn't get drafted OR invited to camps as a FA...That's an NFL rubberstamp move to try and keep the league 'clean' of convicts...Dollars, it always does the talking