Addressing The Running Back Position

[CowboyRoy]

Offer Lamar Miller the same contract we were going to give Demarco and call it a day. A 1-2 punch of him and McFadden would be deadly. Miller was underused and doesn't have a lot of mileage compared to other backs coming into FA. He also has home run speed, can catch, great in pass protection and can grind out yards and tire out defenses. Hes literally a better version of Murray. Give him the 6 mil a year and don't look back.

Miller another good veteran.

 

[LocimusPrime]

JoeBobby it is really hard to nicely say EVERY FACT AND HISTORICAL piece of evidence suggests a certain course of action and have people ignore that and remain calm and polite.

I have advocated adding Lamar Miller to this team (at the right price) and you could certainly use DMC/Miller and run it 50-55% of the time. We can debate those merits but you are clearly uninterested in any real discussion there so by all means have at it. You are correct in that nothing else has worked for Dallas.
The thing is this season was RUN FIRST.

But anyone suggesting Elliot at 4 falls below my ability to effectively discuss football level. From this point on all those making that point are going on ignore. That way I don't insult them at all by pointing out the obvious.

Todd Gurley was a monster last year. But with his tremendous work the Rams won 7 games. If Gurley and the best DL in football plus two CB's Dallas fans openly covet can't even get you to .500 perhaps you see the issue??

Good points. Good running back check good dline check good secondary check. Winning record? They need a good qb too.

 

[BHendri5]

Posts this goofy are worthy of a block.
Lord.

Tony was injured on a play out of nickel set with a slot RB in the game but split out.
It is an empty set that they run every year.

This wasn't a panic or lack of talent set. We were up 13-0.
It is a staple of what Tony does.

Hahaha you are too funny. Our offense flows thru the RB!!!, What you talkin, you can give that crap to someone else. Miss me with this crap

 

[BHendri5]

Wait. Am I misreading you or are you saying that if we had a legitimate TB this season, Romo would not have been hurt?

Huh?

Elliott with the 4th pick would be hilariously insane.

you keep thinking that. Elliot is an immediate impact player, a 3 down back. You know what, I'm not wasting no time with you

 

[BHendri5]

I see your point but I wouldn't take any RB until the 3rd round. More value.

What is up with this value stuff? we know how our offense runs with a legitimate running threat. McFadden and those guys did not make DC's worry one bit about our running game. With Murray they would have had to make that the number one priority, with Elliot it would be so again. If we had that we most likely would not have been in the formation that we were in so that missed block may not have happened. We were relying more on Romo this season because of no real running game

 

[Doomsday101]

What is up with this value stuff? we know how our offense runs with a legitimate running threat. McFadden and those guys did not make DC's worry one bit about our running game. With Murray they would have had to make that the number one priority, with Elliot it would be so again. If we had that we most likely would not have been in the formation that we were in so that missed block may not have happened. We were relying more on Romo this season because of no real running game

Defense was able to key on Cowboys run when they were not worried about the QB beating them. I think McFadden did a heck of a job considering not having Romo at QB

 

[Satchel89]

I like Henry. I know there's some worry because he runs so upright and he carried the ball a ton this year but I think he's the perfect back for this O-Line. I think him and McFadden would make a pretty good combo. Of course I would be hoping that McFadden stays healthy. But I still feel better about him than Dunbar. I'm with everyone else, He's always going to get injured

 

[BHendri5]

Defense was able to key on Cowboys run when they were not worried about the QB beating them. I think McFadden did a heck of a job considering not having Romo at QB

McFadden did ok, but not a heck of a job. I would not go that far! I wish I could get you people that are so set on us drafting one of these QBs this draft to understand that QB is not our biggest issue. I know it seems that way because Romo went down, and that we went with a scrub Weeden and then tried to use a guy that we brought in in the middle of the season, to get up to speed fast, and he did not. Had Cassel had the same time Weeden had he would have done much better, maybe. The one thing
QBs have to understand about the Cowboys is there is tremendous pressure here in Dallas, much more than any other place it seems. It does not matter who you bring in or draft if they cannot handle the pressure of being the Qb of the Dallas Cowboys they will not succeed, no matter how good they are suppose to be. Teams were not focusing on the run when Romo was not hurt, they keyed on the run when they realized that Weeden would not throw the ball over 10yds and Cassell did not know the offense nor had any chemistry with the WRs, heck the WRs could not get open. The OL was not blocking, Mcfadden for all the good he did has not thump running in the middle. finally they put in the kid(whom I said for the longest should have been playing when they realized Weeden was choking) That kid can handle the pressure of playing for the Cowboys and serving as the primary backup.

I do not care what anyone says, so any one feels that they have to respond to my post I will tell you now save it. because you would be wasting your time

 

[Sydla]

you keep thinking that. Elliot is an immediate impact player, a 3 down back. You know what, I'm not wasting no time with you

I like Elliott. I think he's the best TB in this draft.

But he's not a Top 5 talent in this draft. He's just not. And you don't draft for need at #4. You take the best player available. That's not going to be Elliott who is likely a Top15-20 player in this draft.

And none of that changes the fact that thinking that Romo would not get hurt if we had a real TB. That's just poppycock.

 

[big dog cowboy]

That's just poppycock.

I hate it when that happens.

 

[Westcoasthabsfan]

if Derrick Henry is still on the board when the Boys pick in Round Two...yes please...if not stay status quo...

 

[K-Mart]

Since we're all throwing names out... Not saying I necessarily want him on the team after Hardy.. But Ray Rice doesn't have a job.. Might pair well w McFadden and Dunbar... Be cheap.. No one mentioned that I saw..

 

[Doomsday101]

McFadden did ok, but not a heck of a job. I would not go that far! I wish I could get you people that are so set on us drafting one of these QBs this draft to understand that QB is not our biggest issue. I know it seems that way because Romo went down, and that we went with a scrub Weeden and then tried to use a guy that we brought in in the middle of the season, to get up to speed fast, and he did not. Had Cassel had the same time Weeden had he would have done much better, maybe. The one thing
QBs have to understand about the Cowboys is there is tremendous pressure here in Dallas, much more than any other place it seems. It does not matter who you bring in or draft if they cannot handle the pressure of being the Qb of the Dallas Cowboys they will not succeed, no matter how good they are suppose to be. Teams were not focusing on the run when Romo was not hurt, they keyed on the run when they realized that Weeden would not throw the ball over 10yds and Cassell did not know the offense nor had any chemistry with the WRs, heck the WRs could not get open. The OL was not blocking, Mcfadden for all the good he did has not thump running in the middle. finally they put in the kid(whom I said for the longest should have been playing when they realized Weeden was choking) That kid can handle the pressure of playing for the Cowboys and serving as the primary backup.

I do not care what anyone says, so any one feels that they have to respond to my post I will tell you now save it. because you would be wasting your time

I wish I could get some of you to understand QB is. Most of us know what things looked like when Troy retired. Romo is 36 and has had injuries with a 4th pick in the draft you bet now is the time. The draft is not about next season the draft is about your future. By taking a QB now they can learn and develop instead of being tossed to the wolves. If all you are focused on is next season fine for me I am looking at a much bigger picture and the future of this franchise. If this was 3 or 4 years ago then I would not be looking at getting a top ranked QB knowing Romo would be here for a longer time but as things stand with or without injury he is 36 the time is now to delay it only will put the Cowboys in a scramble to find a QB later

 

[jterrell]

What is up with this value stuff? we know how our offense runs with a legitimate running threat. McFadden and those guys did not make DC's worry one bit about our running game. With Murray they would have had to make that the number one priority, with Elliot it would be so again. If we had that we most likely would not have been in the formation that we were in so that missed block may not have happened. We were relying more on Romo this season because of no real running game

With Murray and minus Romo in 2014 were 0-1.
Good effort, good game but you are truly being what Mike Fisher refers to as a S.D.

 

[jterrell]

I like Elliott. I think he's the best TB in this draft.

But he's not a Top 5 talent in this draft. He's just not. And you don't draft for need at #4. You take the best player available. That's not going to be Elliott who is likely a Top15-20 player in this draft.

And none of that changes the fact that thinking that Romo would not get hurt if we had a real TB. That's just poppycock.

No RB is a top 5 talent.
You can go back 10+ years and a not a single guy drafted in the top 5 at RB has been a success. The last was 15 years ago, LaDainian Tomlinson drafted 5th in 2001. And he won zero rings.

Ironically, we have a former #4 pick at RB in DMC and everyone wants to replace him. ROFL. The last 3 RBs taken top 5? Trent Richardson, DMC and Reggie Bush.
The teams that took those players were really, really bad with the exception of the Saints of who never relied on Bush at all and instead passed the ball to record totals under Brees and a spread.

 

[CCBoy]

Just draft WR Treadwell and get a running back in the 3rd round. Resign Dunbar.

 

[DTown214]

I'm starting to hope this is what we do in the draft...
Trade back a few spots in the first round and pick up another 3rd rounder... draft Laquon Treadwell in the first, draft Derrick Henry in the second, draft the two best defensive players on our board with both of our 3rd round picks, draft Kevin Hogan in the 4th.

Seems pretty realistic. For some reason it looks like Henry very well could be there for us in the second, and if he is, we need to jump all over that. If he's taken, then I say we draft the best defensive player available in the second, then use one of those 3rd round picks (from trading back in the first) on a RB and the other one on another defensive player.

 

[CowboyRoy]

What is up with this value stuff? we know how our offense runs with a legitimate running threat. McFadden and those guys did not make DC's worry one bit about our running game. With Murray they would have had to make that the number one priority, with Elliot it would be so again. If we had that we most likely would not have been in the formation that we were in so that missed block may not have happened. We were relying more on Romo this season because of no real running game

With Adrian Peterson at RB this year, the Cowboys would have won another 2 or 3 games at most. The biggest problems with this team is the defense, and the future/backup QB. IF that isnt obvious after this year, it never will be. To take a RB at 4 would be incredible costly in the extreme.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm starting to hope this is what we do in the draft...
Trade back a few spots in the first round and pick up another 3rd rounder... draft Laquon Treadwell in the first, draft Derrick Henry in the second, draft the two best defensive players on our board with both of our 3rd round picks, draft Kevin Hogan in the 4th.

Seems pretty realistic. For some reason it looks like Henry very well could be there for us in the second, and if he is, we need to jump all over that. If he's taken, then I say we draft the best defensive player available in the second, then use one of those 3rd round picks (from trading back in the first) on a RB and the other one on another defensive player.

Trade back.............get a WR and a RB with the first two picks? That has to be the worst draft strategy I could ever imagine.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Many fair points.
But also might consider last year with that Murray guy we were 0-1 without Romo at QB and scored only 17 points. Murray didn't get to 100. Weeden looked much like this year. only 186 yards passing and 2 INTs.The next week Dez had 156 yards RECEIVING in the first half alone. Murray went back over 100 as he had most of the season. One oculd argue it is much easier to run with Romo at the helm.

Dallas is 13-4 with Romo at QB the last two years. Every other QB 3-12.

Stats are stats. How about this one. Dallas was 12-4 with Murray on the Roster in 2014, 4-12 without him.

Another one , and maybe even the most telling stat , at this point. No SuperBowls with Rowdy as the Mascot.....


Im tellin ya, I think it all boils down to that "thing" they have running around AT&T, creeping people out and scaring kids...if we get rid of Rowdy, I bet we make a SuperBowl...