Adrian Peterson wants to be a Cowboy

[mattjames2010]

McCoy being tossed is basically a peronal thing with Kelly - he wants no one to challenge him in any way. So anyone with a strong personality that does not kiss his ring is going to be gone sooner or later.

Peterson is clearly the exception to the rule as regards RBs; but when will his decline start? Not likely the first year back from having an entire year of rest. Have to laugh at the idea that rust is a big problem with a running back= that comes from someone desperate for reasons to bag on him.

Which is really all conjecture.

Kelly had a front row seat watching the McCoy decline.This can be seen during games, he was no even close to himself for the majority of the 2014 season. I'm not a fan of Kelly, but he knows McCoy is not worth big RB money anymore and get rid of him and his contract while he could.

 

[KJJ]

I'm not. A better back - a true elite back - could have done more with this offense IMO.



Pure speculation. What does that even mean "strong personality?"

Show me a quote from Kelly or the organization that refutes that they didn't think McCoy was worth the cap hit and let him go for some other reason.

*edit* BTW from the article you posted:

"While the salary cap money saved by dumping McCoy's hefty salary was likely the primary reason for the trade,"

You've already said that time to move on we're just waiting time. As for McCoy all anyone can do is speculate at least most of the speculation is coming from those close to the situation and who've spoken with McCoy. A strong personality can mean different things but in football terms it usually means a player that's outspoken who's not on board with a coaches philosophy.

 

[wileedog]

As for McCoy all anyone can do is speculate at least most of the speculation is coming from those close to the situation and who've spoken with McCoy. A strong personality can mean different things but in football terms it usually means a player that's outspoken who's not on board with a coaches philosophy.

The same article said the salary cap was likely the primary reason for the trade. All this personality stuff is fine and dandy, but the point is Kelly is not going to shed a $10M back just to turn around and sign a $7-8M back that doesn't fit the system as well because he likes Murray's personality better.

Again, I think they are going all in on Mariota. Kelly thinks his system makes skill position players, not the other way around. It will be interesting to see what they do with Maclin.

 

[KJJ]

The same article said the salary cap was likely the primary reason for the trade. All this personality stuff is fine and dandy, but the point is Kelly is not going to shed a $10M back just to turn around and sign a $7-8M back that doesn't fit the system as well because he likes Murray's personality better.

Again, I think they are going all in on Mariota. Kelly thinks his system makes skill position players, not the other way around. It will be interesting to see what they do with Maclin.

They used the word "likely" others have said there was more to it than that. Kelly took a big risk making this trade he's losing one of the top backs in football and bringing in a player who showed great potential as a rookie but is coming off an ACL. Some players rebound just fine from an ACL but some are never the same player again after the injury. With Kelly's fast break offense he needs an every down back because he can't be substituting backs with the type of offense he runs. I don't see anyone out there in free agency but Murray who can carry the load and give his offense solid production unless Kelly looks to the draft.

Philly is still not settled at QB with speculation that Kelly may go after Mariota who many don't have ranked as highly as Winston. If Kelly doesn't come up with a productive back and is stuck with Foles who wasn't looking all that great before his injury this past season Philly could have some big problems offensively. McCoy is too good a back for this move to be entirely money related. I'm sure the Philly faithful are hoping Kelly knows what he's doing because that trade was a pretty bold move.

 

[wileedog]

I don't see anyone out there in free agency but Murray who can carry the load and give his offense solid production unless Kelly looks to the draft.

He will look to the draft before he dumps big money on Murray. I would bet anything on that. He's still only a couple of years removed from college and will go with the cheaper option he knows better.

Philly is still not settled at QB with speculation that Kelly may go after Mariota who many don't have ranked as highly as Winston.

They may not, but Mariota in Kelly's system is a completely different thing than say Mariota going to the Jets or Tampa.

And I still believe the main motivating factor in clearing up this cap space is the plan to blow major draft picks to get him, and have money to cover holes in FA.

McCoy is too good a back for this move to be entirely money related.

Maybe so, but there is no way money is not a major factor. Kelly will (rightly) be lambasted if he trades away McCoy just to pay similar money to Murray, who is not as good and not as good a fit for the system, and all because he thought McCoy had too "strong" a personality for him.

And if he does, as I've said go nuts. Murray is not running for 1800 yards in that offense, and the whole never taking him off the field thing will only increase his already bad injury odds.

 

[KJJ]

He will look to the draft before he dumps big money on Murray. I would bet anything on that. He's still only a couple of years removed from college and will go with the cheaper option he knows better.



They may not, but Mariota in Kelly's system is a completely different thing than say Mariota going to the Jets or Tampa.

And I still believe the main motivating factor in clearing up this cap space is the plan to blow major draft picks to get him, and have money to cover holes in FA.



Maybe so, but there is no way money is not a major factor. Kelly will (rightly) be lambasted if he trades away McCoy just to pay similar money to Murray, who is not as good and not as good a fit for the system, and all because he thought McCoy had too "strong" a personality for him.

And if he does, as I've said go nuts. Murray is not running for 1800 yards in that offense, and the whole never taking him off the field thing will only increase his already bad injury odds.

He may very well look to the draft it's a pretty strong RB crop but the draft is a gamble and no guarantees of finding a productive workhorse for his system. Although Kelly gave up McCoy he got something potentially of great value in return in Alonso if he can return to the form he showed as a rookie. Murray is still an option Kelly could end up with the top rusher in the league from 2014 and a great young LB. The fear I'm sure the Philly faithful have is there's no assurances Kelly's offensive system is going to work long-term. If he gives up the farm to move up for Mariota and he flames out as an NFL QB as does Kelly's offense they'll be a mass suicide in Philly especially if Shady McCoy who's only 26 lights things up in Buffalo while Philly is still looking to try and replace him.