Twitter: Agent's Take: Moving Romo, upgrading pass rush top Cowboys' to-do list

[Texas_Pete]

Really good stuff.

 

[Teague31]

No feces Sherlock

 

[AzorAhai]

For the group who wants to keep Romo because it "only saves 5 million" they're neglecting to see that it frees up 25 million in 2018 cap space if they make the move now vs 16 million in 2018 cap space if they did it next year. That's a savings of 14 million in cap space over the next 2 years if cut/traded vs keeping him(likely against his wishes).

5 million in 2017 + 25 million in 2018=30 million saved total
Or
2018 cut=16 million saved

It's not just about this next season. It's about getting it off the books and freeing up the big savings sooner. Is having Romo be the backup this year worth 14 million less in cap space over the next 2 years? Especially when you are trying to cash in on Daks cheap years and getting an asset(s) in addition to the 14 million in space?

And I know someone will point out that another b/u will be needed, but that's probably K. Moore and he's only going to get a 2-3 year deal for 3 million or so per year.

That still saves 24 million over the next 2 years vs 12-13 for whatever b/u they get in 2018.

I know it sounds good to say you only save 5 million this year, but it is much more complex than that.

 

[sean10mm]

A lot of people are emotionally invested in Romo, and have a siege mentality after years of him getting unfairly bashed. But the truth is that there is virtually no chance he stays, and no well-run franchise would keep him if they faced the same situation as the Cowboys. You don't pay money to players you hope DON'T play when you can spend it on players you hope DO play. It's not a real thing in the NFL.

 

[visionary]

For the group who wants to keep Romo because it "only saves 5 million" they're neglecting to see that it frees up 25 million in 2018 cap space if they make the move now vs 16 million in 2018 cap space if they did it next year. That's a savings of 14 million in cap space over the next 2 years if cut/traded vs keeping him(likely against his wishes).

5 million in 2017 + 25 million in 2018=30 million saved total
Or
2018 cut=16 million saved

It's not just about this next season. It's about getting it off the books and freeing up the big savings sooner. Is having Romo be the backup this year worth 14 million less in cap space over the next 2 years? Especially when you are trying to cash in on Daks cheap years and getting an asset(s) in addition to the 14 million in space?

And I know someone will point out that another b/u will be needed, but that's probably K. Moore and he's only going to get a 2-3 year deal for 3 million or so per year.

That still saves 24 million over the next 2 years vs 12-13 for whatever b/u they get in 2018.

I know it sounds good to say you only save 5 million this year, but it is much more complex than that.

This team is contending now
At some point in the next 2 seasons the back up QB is likely to have to win a game or 2 that helps us make the playoffs or determines home field
Moore or Sanchez are not going to give us a chance
That would be worth it from my perspective

I'm not trading Romo for less than a first and I'm certainly not releasing him

 

[CATCH17]

This team is contending now
At some point in the next 2 seasons the back up QB is likely to have to win a game or 2 that helps us make the playoffs or determines home field
Moore or Sanchez are not going to give us a chance
That would be worth it from my perspective

I'm not trading Romo for less than a first and I'm certainly not releasing him

I agree with you except for the less than a 1st part.

I'll gladly take a 3rd or higher for a 37 year old QB.

 

[ShiningStar]

Hows Dustin Vaughn these days?

 

[Sydla]

This team is contending now
At some point in the next 2 seasons the back up QB is likely to have to win a game or 2 that helps us make the playoffs or determines home field
Moore or Sanchez are not going to give us a chance
That would be worth it from my perspective

I'm not trading Romo for less than a first and I'm certainly not releasing him

Then you are keeping him because you are not getting a first for Tony Romo.

 

[tyke1doe]

For the group who wants to keep Romo because it "only saves 5 million" they're neglecting to see that it frees up 25 million in 2018 cap space if they make the move now vs 16 million in 2018 cap space if they did it next year. That's a savings of 14 million in cap space over the next 2 years if cut/traded vs keeping him(likely against his wishes).

5 million in 2017 + 25 million in 2018=30 million saved total
Or
2018 cut=16 million saved

It's not just about this next season. It's about getting it off the books and freeing up the big savings sooner. Is having Romo be the backup this year worth 14 million less in cap space over the next 2 years? Especially when you are trying to cash in on Daks cheap years and getting an asset(s) in addition to the 14 million in space?

And I know someone will point out that another b/u will be needed, but that's probably K. Moore and he's only going to get a 2-3 year deal for 3 million or so per year.

That still saves 24 million over the next 2 years vs 12-13 for whatever b/u they get in 2018.

I know it sounds good to say you only save 5 million this year, but it is much more complex than that.

Very good post. Simple to understand for we who are not capologists.

 

[Idgit]

Hows Dustin Vaughn these days?

He still sucks.

 

[Fletch]

This team is contending now
At some point in the next 2 seasons the back up QB is likely to have to win a game or 2 that helps us make the playoffs or determines home field
Moore or Sanchez are not going to give us a chance
That would be worth it from my perspective

I'm not trading Romo for less than a first and I'm certainly not releasing him

Perfect World says hi.




I would love that too, BTW.

 

[Idgit]

I agree with you except for the less than a 1st part.

I'll gladly take a 3rd or higher for a 37 year old QB.

Conditional 2nd. You're not trading a 37 year old QB. You're trading a lottery ticket to the postseason at least for the next 2 years to any team who's just a QB away. That's worth a flier on a manic-depressive drug addict or a redshirt year for a guy with career-threatening nerve damage any day of the week.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm not trading Romo for less than a first and I'm certainly not releasing him

I'd like a first but that is unreasonable given his age and health. And there is no way I'm releasing him so he can walk away without any compensation to the Cowboys.

 

[AzorAhai]

Very good post. Simple to understand for we who are not capologists.

Thanks. I know a lot of people don't go into the details so I'm just trying to inform everyone on the actual details. From there they can have an informed opinion like @visionary above. He saw the information and had an opinion based on the actual facts.

A more informed board is better for the discussion imo. Plus there's a lot of misinformation going around or at minimum information that is deceptive without the full scope.

 

[visionary]

Then you are keeping him because you are not getting a first for Tony Romo.

I think you might be surprised if we keep our powder dry

There is no QB that will put Denver or Houston definitely in the playoffs next year. Romo does that and he makes them a real contender

There will also be other teams in the running

 

[visionary]

I'd like a first but that is unreasonable given his age and health. And there is no way I'm releasing him so he can walk away without any compensation to the Cowboys.

It is too early to say what is reasonable and what is not

Fact is that if healthy Romo is a franchise QB who has 2-3 years left

For a well built team that would be worth a first

We just need to hold our cards close to the vest

 

[visionary]

Thanks. I know a lot of people don't go into the details so I'm just trying to inform everyone on the actual details. From there they can have an informed opinion like @visionary above. He saw the information and had an opinion based on the actual facts.

A more informed board is better for the discussion imo. Plus there's a lot of misinformation going around or at minimum information that is deceptive without the full scope.

Agree think of it this way
If you had the choice to pay 15 million over the next 2 years and having home field like we did this year or not paying 15 million but going to GB like the Giants did as a wild card, which option do you take?

I know we didn't do what we should have but I'm taking option #1 because we have s much better chance to advance

And there are no other good QB options on the FA market and no real elite QBs in the draft so I think it is highly likely that one of the teams that think they are ready to contend will give you their first because they will think that their first will be at the bottom of Rd 1 with Romo

Happens all the time

 

[Shotgun Dave]

This team is contending now

Yes, and because they are, that money can be better spent on defensive players who will see the field on every down and not just if Dak goes down. I've been, and remain, a HUGE Romo fan, but it doesn't make sense to keep him here as a backup, and he doesn't WANT to be a backup. He wants to start, he's capable of starting (and winning) if he can stay healthy, and we could use whatever trade value he has (which I predict will ultimately be a 1-2 round pick).

 

[Diogenes]

Romo handled the situation this year with class and dignity but his window is extremely small considering his age. I simply can't see him accepting the role of back up and playing the good soldier for another season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It is too early to say what is reasonable and what is not

Fact is that if healthy Romo is a franchise QB who has 2-3 years left

For a well built team that would be worth a first

We just need to hold our cards close to the vest

The Texans seem like a team you are describing. Hard to see them making a move unless their GM Smith and HC O'Brien are in the hot seat to win big next year with that defense. Because Brock and Savage aren't taking them anywhere in January. I agree - hold those cards close. Eventually the phone will ring.