Al Harris praises Kelvin Joseph

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Yep, most apparently don't know that.


I have not seen Joseph get beat badly that much. He seems to be pretty good at hanging on a receiver's hip. Where he fails is when the ball is in the air. His ability to do something to stop the catch is what was lacking. If he gets that, he has the speed and athleticism to be pretty good. These plays against Smith show he can run with anybody if it is a go route.
 

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bossman fat is doing better. He may even be our 5th best corner now.
 

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Mediocre means "of only moderate quality; not very good." Decent means "of an acceptable standard; satisfactory." James was a good player; good enough to start and do pretty well for us. Maybe your word selection just needs to be better.

Not sure what facts you gave to support your opinion, other than we've sucked when drafting questionable talent in the second round. I think that's a fair assessment overall, with the exception of a few like Diggs. I also think it is fair to not expect much from Joseph at this point. I think the evidence we have is not in his favor. All I'm saying is that he was a relatively inexperienced player coming out of college (and a lot of that is his own fault) and he appears to be a slow learner. That can mean it will take him a while to get it on this level, if he ever does. Physical ability is not the problem, which is why he was taken in the second round. Mental ability/commitment are the question marks. Can he overcome them? Who knows? Certainly not those who purport to be able to see into the future.
Sweet! We have a real-time dictionary!
Unlike you, I couldn't possibly care less if I'm wrong. I hope I am! "Facts" as in real things to measure, not hope or pointing out no one knows the future 100 times.
The point of drafting is to find playmakers that can be on the field and at a cost effective price. Do you honestly think there's trade value? No. When his rookie contract is up, there's no reason to keep him when literal rookies no one ever heard about are performing at high levels. In well over twice as many pics later.

I'll let you get the last word, you need it. I bet Joseph shows exactly what he has his entire football career, college and the NFL. We'll see.
 

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Sweet! We have a real-time dictionary!
Unlike you, I couldn't possibly care less if I'm wrong. I hope I am! "Facts" as in real things to measure, not hope or pointing out no one knows the future 100 times.
The point of drafting is to find playmakers that can be on the field and at a cost effective price. Do you honestly think there's trade value? No. When his rookie contract is up, there's no reason to keep him when literal rookies no one ever heard about are performing at high levels. In well over twice as many pics later.

I'll let you get the last word, you need it. I bet Joseph shows exactly what he has his entire football career, college and the NFL. We'll see.
How was this letting me get the last word?

No, he has no trade value right now, and yes, he'll probably live down to what he is right now. So we don't disagree on that, just our approach to potential and how it isn't always realized right off the bat. But you seem to get a little riled up about disagreement, so I'm going to let this go. Neither of us knows how this will turn out, so as you said, we'll see.
 

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I would love to see this kid pull himself outta this hole and start ballin. But man he's been cooked in almost every rep. Good thing is he doesn't back away from competition hes taking on cooks and ceedee a lot.
 

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I have not seen Joseph get beat badly that much. He seems to be pretty good at hanging on a receiver's hip. Where he fails is when the ball is in the air. His ability to do something to stop the catch is what was lacking. If he gets that, he has the speed and athleticism to be pretty good. These plays against Smith show he can run with anybody if it is a go route.
He does do a poor job of locating the ball.
 

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I was hoping this was going to be news of a new rap dropping on iTunes.
Bossman Fat is looking more and more like Burnt Toast.

It would be hilarious to see a position coach stand there and just bash a
player but it doesn't happen.
 

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he has no where to go but up

last year his performance was questionable...more questionable than me eating grapes and having the grape crust all over my mouth
 

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How do you cut these corners down? You’ve got Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Joseph, Lewis, Goodwin, Scott, and frankly Wright seems to be flashing a lot…..Plus Mukuamu can play in a pinch just fine
 

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He completely shut down Devontae in college. That’s big. The talent is there but he needs to understand the mental aspect of the game and have confidence in his ability.
Oh we're continuing this lie huh? 3 reps ve devante while devante had 12 catches for almost 200 in the game lol
November 21st, 2020_
Bryant-Denny Stadium_
Crimson Tide 63, Wildcats 3_
Devonta Smith --- 9 receptions for 144 yards and 2 TDs
Kelvin Joseph --- 1 tackle, 1 INT- 21 yard return
 

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November 21st, 2020_
Bryant-Denny Stadium_
Crimson Tide 63, Wildcats 3_
Devonta Smith --- 9 receptions for 144 yards and 2 TDs
Kelvin Joseph --- 1 tackle, 1 INT- 21 yard return
Imagine a guy shutting down devante smith in college yet he can't cover Denver bronco scrub wideouts in preseason lol. 2 reps against smith got people hyped on that bum
 

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Imagine a guy shutting down devante smith in college yet he can't cover Denver bronco scrub wideouts in preseason lol. 2 reps against smith got people hyped on that bum
That's why the argument is its mental with him and not physical.
 

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Now that his street cred is completely out the window from being a snitch, he can focus on football. He's been an interesting second round project.

I would have preferred another backup tight end if I had the choice. At least his knee is not shredded.
 

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Kelvin was the youngest player taken in the draft that year.

He had some growing up to do and the fact that he is still around demonstrates some resiliency. He's still a Cowboy and I still have some hope that he shows us something this preseason. It better be soon, it won't be long before the Turk comes a knockin'.
 
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