Al Harris

[playmakers]

Ive been saying this for a while Al Harris is the best cover guy in the NFL. Only now after he shut down Roy Wiliams will he get credit for that. Champ Bailey is the paper champ. Even when Harris gives up a catch its with good coverage, kind of like the Owens td on Revies. He a stud and another guy who doesnt talk trash and just goes out and plays. Hall from the Falcons is very average but gets alot of hype. He might get a pick or two but gives up about 5-6 catches a game. Shutdown db's should give up no deep plays and 2-3 catches a game. Champ had a domnating season last year Ill give him that. This year, he sucks literally. He cant cover anybody. When they played Indy he couldnt even cover Dallas Clark the tight end. So TeeO is in for a tough matchup.



For fun the real top 5 or so cover dbs in the NFL today in no particular order are


Harris
Newman
Nate Clements
Anotoine Winfield(Minn)
Rashon Mathis
Samuel
Leigh Bodden (another Newman, Harris he gets lost because he plays in Cleveland and he just shuts up and plays football)

For my money I would take those 7 guys over anyone in the NFL. I might of missed someone though.


Owens vs Harris who wins????????

 

[tunahelper]

Harris is known to bite on routes and gets burned.

 

[burmafrd]

Newman has given up fewer TDs and fewer yds when healthy. Harris is probably the closest to Newman in ability to shut down a WR.

 

[dbair1967]

Ive been saying this for a while Al Harris is the best cover guy in the NFL. Only now after he shut down Roy Wiliams will he get credit for that. Champ Bailey is the paper champ. Even when Harris gives up a catch its with good coverage, kind of like the Owens td on Revies. He a stud and another guy who doesnt talk trash and just goes out and plays. Hall from the Falcons is very average but gets alot of hype. He might get a pick or two but gives up about 5-6 catches a game. Shutdown db's should give up no deep plays and 2-3 catches a game. Champ had a domnating season last year Ill give him that. This year, he sucks literally. He cant cover anybody. When they played Indy he couldnt even cover Dallas Clark the tight end. So TeeO is in for a tough matchup.



For fun the real top 5 or so cover dbs in the NFL today in no particular order are


Harris
Newman
Nate Clements
Anotoine Winfield(Minn)
Rashon Mathis
Samuel
Leigh Bodden (another Newman, Harris he gets lost because he plays in Cleveland and he just shuts up and plays football)

For my money I would take those 7 guys over anyone in the NFL. I might of missed someone though.


Owens vs Harris who wins????????

Harris is not better than Newman, and some of those guys you have listed have no business being mentioned as "best" at anything...has Nate Clements covered anybody this yr (or last yr?)...Antione Winfield is a realyl tough guy, but he is a mediocre cover CB...he makes alot of tackles because he gets alot of balls completed on him....Leigh Bodden????

David

 

[Mansta54]

I hope the Pack plays TO and Crayton with man coverage. I see them beating it for big gains consistently...

 

[ATurkishSeaOtter]

In no way shape or form is Harris better than Newman. Harris likes to give up the big play and big penalty.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I thought Harris was about the best corner I saw in 2004 when the league clamped down on the illegal contact rules. But even though he's very good, he's not even the best corner on his team. Guarantee you that if the Pack had both guys healthy, they'd rather have Woodson on T.O.

Harris is a good bump corner because he's so physical and feisty, but even Keyshawn was saying he can get distracted and forget the overall defense as he fights one on one with his WR.

A lot of it depends on how the refs are calling it. If they let the guys play, he can shut his guy down. If they're calling 2007 rules where you can't touch the WR, he'll get beat and get a lot of penalties.

BTW, it's true that as big as T.O. is, he doesn't like a guy in his face at the line. But we'll just put him in the slot and give him a couple-yard cushion to get off the line.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Winfield is a good CB dont get me wrong and his obvious strength is tackling; but is he really any better in coverage than say Champ or McAlister? Hes definitely a good CB but I think he gets a little too much hype.

 

[dcowboysfan76]

Harris did not shut down Roy Williams, Kitna couldn't get him the ball. There were several times when Williams was wide open, but calamity Kitna couldn't step up in the pocket and throw the ball because he's a spare QB...

 

[CF74]

I might of missed someone though.

Henry

 

[SacredStar]

Al Harris is also the guy who dove into A. Peterson's knee putting him out of the Minnesota game because he didn't want to pay his D-Line the $500 bonus for keeping Peterson below 100 yards.

So he took him out.

Watch this guy closely in the game. He grabs way past the 5 yard line, and has contact 90% of the time down the field.

He's a good player, but in no way is he a shutdown corner, and in no way is he the league's best cover corner.

 

[playmakers]

Leigh Bodden, ask some guys who know the Browns. He's at the top for INT's and he always makes plays in big time situations. Hes underrated because no one knows of him.

Nate Clements shut down Boldin and Fitzgerald in week 1. Torry Holt only had 5 catches for 50 yards last week. Hes good.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Leigh Bodden is a really good cover corner, he plays in Cleveland so you don't hear his name as much but with them starting to turn it around he'll get somewhat noticed eventually...

 

[Jenky]

Leigh Bodden, ask some guys who know the Browns. He's at the top for INT's and he always makes plays in big time situations. Hes underrated because no one knows of him.

Nate Clements shut down Boldin and Fitzgerald in week 1. Torry Holt only had 5 catches for 50 yards last week. Hes good.

Boldin scored on Clements still. Anyone remember that sick move Chad Johnson did on Bodden ? I coulda swore Bodden was beaten by +15 yards and he gave up the easy TD. Anyways, I've seen most of the guys on this list beaten for TDs. Vincent Jackson got the best of Harris this year. The Pack's secondary gets flagged a lot IMO. The Browns have the 31st ranked pass defense. Most of these guys are play makers, but they aren't shutdown. The only ones who are close to Newman are probably Harris and Mathis.

 

[FloridaRob]

Al Harris is also the guy who dove into A. Peterson's knee putting him out of the Minnesota game because he didn't want to pay his D-Line the $500 bonus for keeping Peterson below 100 yards.

So he took him out.

Watch this guy closely in the game. He grabs way past the 5 yard line, and has contact 90% of the time down the field.

He's a good player, but in no way is he a shutdown corner, and in no way is he the league's best cover corner.

are you kidding me???? Surely you are no serious. If you are then your hate transcends your ability to view anything without a total bias against the Packers. Al Harris is NOT a dirty player. NObody has ever accused him of that and even Peterson said afterwards there was nothing wrong with that tackle. but I guess he forgot to ask you.

That play on Peterson was 100% clean and was text book in the tackle. IN fact, He did not even hit his knee. Go watch the tape again. He cross blocked him and hit his thigh. It was the way Peterson fell that cause the knee to buckle. Even if what you say is true, and it is not, it was Petersons right knee that buckled. Harris came and hit his left thigh. GEezus I thought Viking fans were slanted in their hate for the Packers but even they admitted the tackle was clean. What is your agenda SS???? You talk about classy, making crap up against a player proves no purpose other than to further your hate agenda against them.

Just in case you don't have or probably never saw the actual footage, Here is a nice little gallery for you to examine. Tell me how one can dive at somebodys knee with his feet under him and his head up. Yea, I didnt think so. But if you can dive with your head up I guess you have discovered something.

http://www.startribune.com/10136/gallery/1543653.html

Geez, I know it is real difficult for some fans to even be remotely unbiased on their view of other teams, but don;t make up crap like this without a little bit of validity.

As far as the $500 bonuses the DBs were giveing to the linemen. So what. They were not bonuses to HURT somebody. Maybe they should go fine the Cowboys for all those years Emmit gave his linemen expensive watches and electronics for helping him have a good year. I don't see a problem then and don't see one now.

Yea, lets be sure and watch Al Harris real close. I hope they watch him as close as they watched MIchel Irvin when he perfected the pushoff. I doubt you were too annoyed with that tho.

 

[03EBZ06]

TNew >>> Al Harris

 

[SacredStar]

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That play on Peterson was 100% clean and was text book in the tackle. IN fact, He did not even hit his knee. Go watch the tape again. He cross blocked him and hit his thigh. It was the way Peterson fell that cause the knee to buckle.

I never said the hit wasn't clean....if you can find where I did, show me.

I did say that Harris dove at his knees, because he did. I'm not saying the hit was intentional on injuring Peterson. I do find it ironic that Harris offered his teammates cash to stop opponents. How far was he willing to go? How do you, Rob, know his true intentions?

Check out this film. At the 2:42 mark is where Peterson went down. Looks pretty clear to me that Harris dove at his knees. It was a legal hit, but it was his hit that did the damage, not the way Peterson landed. Peterson landed head first and his legs came down straight. Al's shoulder hits Peterson's right knee. What knee was damaged again?

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29326&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=REG10

Maybe it was intentional, maybe it wasn't. Neither you or I will know for sure. Only Al knows.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

It will be fun watch a great cb on a great wr thrus nite

 

[SacredStar]

Yea, lets be sure and watch Al Harris real close. I hope they watch him as close as they watched MIchel Irvin when he perfected the pushoff. I doubt you were too annoyed with that tho.

Funny you bring up the pushoff.

Did you see the pushoff that Jennings did against Dre Bly for the winning TD in OT vs. Denver.

Bly even stated there was contact, and you can see it on replays. Funny thing is.....it wasn't called for some reason.

Relax Rob......just like all Packer fans, you are taking this too personal.

 

[FloridaRob]

I never said the hit wasn't clean....if you can find where I did, show me.

I did say that Harris dove at his knees, because he did. I'm not saying the hit was intentional on injuring Peterson. I do find it ironic that Harris offered his teammates cash to stop opponents. How far was he willing to go? How do you, Rob, know his true intentions?

Check out this film. At the 2:42 mark is where Peterson went down. Looks pretty clear to me that Harris dove at his knees. It was a legal hit, but it was his hit that did the damage, not the way Peterson landed. Peterson landed head first and his legs came down straight. Al's shoulder hits Peterson's right knee. What knee was damaged again?

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29326&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=REG10

Maybe it was intentional, maybe it wasn't. Neither you or I will know for sure. Only Al knows.

You said he dove at his knees and your belief is that it was intentional so that he would not have to pay a $500 bounty. What a leap. I guess every legal tackle in the league could be termed suspicious because a lot of players get hurt on plays just like that. And NO he did not dive at his knees. How do you dive with feet under you. It was a great tackle and if Newman or anotehr Cowboy did the same thing you would applaud it, not criticize it and wonder about his "intentions". IF he was going to go after his knee like you believe, then why the hell didnt he go after his left knee since that was the one that was closest to him. Maybe Al had an epiphany while he was gettign ready to tackle Peterson that he should go after the opposite knee than the one closest just to make sure Sacred Star (who is teh only person I have seen questioning the hit) doesnt believe that he INTENDED to do it. THat type of tackle is done by every defensive back including your beloved Cowboys against every Rb in the league. Al Harris was probably giving up 40 lbs to Peterson. If he hits him high, he is going to bounce off of him. He went low and cross blocked him down.

I know a medical Dr who posts on message boards who examined the video footage and said it looked like Petersons knee buckled before the hit. But don't let that affect your conspiracy agenda. Truly Amzaing the things people make up to support their agenda.

Do I know for a fact Harris didnt do it intentionally? No but if I was a betting person, which I am, I would bet the house that it wasn't. Al Harris is a classy player and you are the first and only poster I have ever seen question that. HE stayed rigtht by Peterson while he was down on the ground making sure he was ok. Not the response of a classless player trying to hurt somebody.