Albert Breer note on La'El Collins going undrafted

[DogFace]

Meh. I think it's well known owners can afford to buy stadiums. But why would they when cities want to pay a portion to have that team in the city.

They wouldn't. The old saying is there's one born every minute.

We should also try to give them as many breaks as possible. Maybe even write the breaks into the tax code.

Next if we could try and give them the representation and influence politically they deserve. I know money = free speech!!

We all win!!!

 

[JoeKing]

So La'el, play well and your pocket book will swell. Cowboys 2017!

 

[LittleD]

The salary cap caps the salaries. Maybe the owners should have a salary cap too. They'd surely see that system as fair.

We're certainly not talking hunger. We're taking about a rigged system.

Really, you coming with that. It seems that the union voted to accept the cap. Why would any business pay out more in expenses than it sees in revenues. What businesses have you started and ran successfully? No business owner runs a business for long that doesn't make money on the bottom line. No player has to accept a salary he doesn't want to. He can forgo football in the NFL and look for one of those hourly wage jobs no one else wants to take.

 

[LittleD]

They wouldn't. The old saying is there's one born every minute.

We should also try to give them as many breaks as possible. Maybe even write the breaks into the tax code.

Next if we could try and give them the representation and influence politically they deserve. I know money = free speech!!

We all win!!!

You've chosen to live in and watch football in America. I think you should explore Canada and Canadian football for a change in philosophy.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Do the citizens actually vote for the stadiums? I think so. Either way when billionaires set up a business where the tax payers pay for the place of business and they control the salaries of their product and labor force while, normally, lauding capitalism as great is ironic if nothing else.


It's almost as if they have built in advantages.

Wait,,, are we talking about the NFL or the US government?

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

You've chosen to live in and watch football in America. I think you should explore Canada and Canadian football for a change in philosophy.

Or he could just do what people are entitled (and in fact encouraged) to do when they have an issue with how things are being run in a free and democratic society: you know, advocate for change.

 

[Direwolf63]

Staubach joined the Dallas Cowboys in 1969 as a 27-year-old rookie with a salary of$25,000. He would earn two Super Bowl wins in five appearances, an NFL MVP and six Pro Bowl selections during the 1970s.

He is now one of the richest NFL athletes to ever play.

Yes, but his fortune was gained in the business world, not the football world. A tiny fraction of his current wealth came from football.

Staubach would probably have been successful even if he never set foot on a professional football field. You can't say that about a large majority of athletes these days,

 

[DallasEast]

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[Trouty]

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I've seen a lot of these warnings posted lately in the most random threads LOL

Even a La'El thread turns political.

 

[LittleD]

Or he could just do what people are entitled (and in fact encouraged) to do when they have an issue with how things are being run in a free and democratic society: you know, advocate for change.

Absolutely...I agree 100%. Those who don't want change can fight just as hard to keep things as they are. The democratic society thingy is not really right, we are a constitutional republic.

 

[CATCH17]

Pretty frustrating that Dallas is wanting to move him to tackle now and when we had him they basically chose Free > Leary.

 

[jterrell]

Do the citizens actually vote for the stadiums? I think so. Either way when billionaires set up a business where the tax payers pay for the place of business and they control the salaries of their product and labor force while, normally, lauding capitalism as great is ironic if nothing else.


It's almost as if they have built in advantages.

in fairness virtually every business gets tax breaks and have municipalities funding them.
free land use, low or non-existent corporate taxes are quite common.

 

[DeaconBlues]

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WTH???



That reminds me of the small print in a contract.

"My car was hit in my driveway by a drunk driver trying to park. What do you mean it's not covered??"

"Sir, according to paragraph W, subsection 24, sub note 102a, your insurance doesn't cover collisions in a homeowners driveway. You will need to contact your homeowners policy"

And yes, that was a true conversation. My daughter's Honda was hit by a drunk driver who tried to park in the wrong driveway.

 

[Maxmadden]

Yes, but his fortune was gained in the business world, not the football world. A tiny fraction of his current wealth came from football.

Staubach would probably have been successful even if he never set foot on a professional football field. You can't say that about a large majority of athletes these days,

The same opportunity exist for these athletes today. So you are the 40th pick in the draft and you bankroll 5-6 million. That puts you in the upper echelon.

The NFL owners should hold 30 percent of a players contract payable at age 35. All the money I have invested is not accessible until I am age 59 and a half. These kids are getting too much money too soon.

 

[Direwolf63]

The same opportunity exist for these athletes today. So you are the 40th pick in the draft and you bankroll 5-6 million. That puts you in the upper echelon.

The NFL owners should hold 30 percent of a players contract payable at age 35. All the money I have invested is not accessible until I am age 59 and a half. These kids are getting too much money too soon.

The reality is that most of these guys are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. In terms of business acumen, a large majority are closed to Vince Young tha nthey are to Peyton Manning.

Having NFL owners hold back 30 percent of a players salary wouldn't go over too well with the NFLPA, lol. Helping players handle their finances are what agents are for. The NFLPA also has lots of information to help them out, if they choose to use it. But these guys are very young. And when they have a ton of money suddenly thrust at them, they are more likely to make it rain than they are actually saving money.

I read somewhere that Carson Palmer has never spent a penny of the signing bonuses. He just lives off his annual salary. That's like $60M-$70M he has saved up.
Rob Gronkowski has never spent any NFL money of any kind supposedly. The money he spends is from marketing revenues.

But these guys are a tiny minority. Roger Staubach is truly a unicorn.

 

[DogFace]

Really, you coming with that. It seems that the union voted to accept the cap. Why would any business pay out more in expenses than it sees in revenues. What businesses have you started and ran successfully? No business owner runs a business for long that doesn't make money on the bottom line. No player has to accept a salary he doesn't want to. He can forgo football in the NFL and look for one of those hourly wage jobs no one else wants to take.

That's reasonable. Players should refuse the limited offered salary. Great argument.

Who's asking the poor owners to accept running a business at a loss? No one suggested that because it is dumb. They are not even close to running their business at a loss. They are fleecing the players who are the product and the labor. They can do so because they have the money to miss a season and survive partially due to tv contracts that insulate them and partially due to the sheer amount of wealth they have accumulated. It goes on throughout society. Somehow some agree with it.

The salary cap is anti capitalism. You should know that. They love capitalism when they are the capitalizers. Not so much when others try to capitalize.

They also love the socialized stadiums that they have built for them partially through political connections and partially by taking advantage of some taxpayers love for the team they grew up with. They then use those peoples feelings and desires as leverage to get funding from them or another city. I'm sure the city makes money. However, cities like St. Louis are still paying for their stadium with no team. Nice.
https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/amp....ll_deep_in_debt_for_the_rams_old_stadium.html


Keep cheering them on. It's very productive. For them.

 

[DogFace]

Absolutely...I agree 100%. Those who don't want change can fight just as hard to keep things as they are. The democratic society thingy is not really right, we are a constitutional republic.

That is the name of the game.

Who will win?
Who's been winning ?
Guess we'll find out

 

[coult44]

Migosh, can we please stop with this millennial nonsense.

Let me ask you, Coult, what have you done for our country? Where do you get the nerve to denigrate a whole generation?

Asking as a millennial.

Dude, they make pills for PTSD. I could loan you some if you want. Then we could share our stories about what "we" have done. WHAT THE FREAK does this have to do with what "we" have done for anyone. TYPICAL!!! Proves my point!!!

 

[Trouty]

Dude, they make pills for PTSD. I could loan you some if you want. Then we could share our stories about what "we" have done. WHAT THE FREAK does this have to do with what "we" have done for anyone. TYPICAL!!! Proves my point!!!

It proves nothing. And frankly your post is not only insulting (on many levels but I'll try not to go there) but also whacky and confusing.

"We" didn't do **** together. Wth are you talking about?

 

[Kevinicus]

The salary cap caps the salaries. Maybe the owners should have a salary cap too. They'd surely see that system as fair.

We're certainly not talking hunger. We're taking about a rigged system.

You don't think every business caps how much they are willing to pay their employees? It's called budgeting.