Alex Smith, Bryant, Gore and Norv... remind you of anyone?

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Doomsday101 said:
I agree. Had Dallas had their clock cleaned yesterday like SF did I'm pretty sure people would not be talking about a team of promise. SF offense did not do anything until the outcome was pretty much in hand.

I think the '90 team got their clock cleaned a couple of times too, it certainly wasn't smooth as silk by any means most weeks. But you can still see the potential within the losses and beatdowns. And one X-factor I didn't even mention in the initial comparison is Vernon Davis, although he can't seem to stay on the field right now. Eric Johnson is a Novacek-type for them (I think he had about 90 catches as recently as 2004) but we certainly didn't have anyone with the potential of a Vernon Davis at the TE position when we were coming into our 90s dominance (well, that is if you don't count Rob Awalt :D ).
 

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jcblanco22 said:
Just curious, and I know today is kind of a weird day to post this given that the Niners did not put on the best show yesterday, but has anyone else thought about the possible parallels to the 1990/1991 Cowboys? I know Norv didn't come on board here until '91, but I do see where under his guidance Smith is going to flourish and where Gore and Bryant are really coming into their own. Even if these guys play for one of our hated rivals I can't help, from a nostalgic standpoint if nothing else, to think of the breakout season of '91 for our own Triplets back in those days.

Not saying that any of the the current three guys will match the accomplishments of Aikman-Emmitt-Irvin, nor that they will match the 11 wins put up by our '91 squad (I do think they'll be close to the 7-9 we put up in '90) but with Norv helping them along in the role he is by far the best at, offensive coordinator, I think they'll make big strides this year.

No way. Antonio Bryant is insane, Gore is OK, and Smith is the weakest #1 QB overall since Tim Couch. Comparing him toe the specimen Aikman was is laughable. Vernon Davis is going to be awesome-- I just see them as a completey different kind of team.
 

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jcblanco22 said:
I think the '90 team got their clock cleaned a couple of times too, it certainly wasn't smooth as silk by any means most weeks. But you can still see the potential within the losses and beatdowns. And one X-factor I didn't even mention in the initial comparison is Vernon Davis, although he can't seem to stay on the field right now. Eric Johnson is a Novacek-type for them (I think he had about 90 catches as recently as 2004) but we certainly didn't have anyone with the potential of a Vernon Davis at the TE position when we were coming into our 90s dominance (well, that is if you don't count Rob Awalt :D ).

By the time the 3 were together we were not getting our clock cleaned. What I saw yesterday was a team down 31 to 3 before they did anything but the same could be said about other team. Houston made a come back aginst the Colts in week 2 with 21 4th qrt points after being down by several points but that did not indicate that Houston was a good team.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
By the time the 3 were together we were not getting our clock cleaned.

Well, I don't believe for a second that Smith, Gore & AB are even remotely in the league of Aikman, Emmitt & Irvin.

But our triplets did get their clocks cleaned a few times while developing their ultimate greatness.

MNF vs Philly comes to mind. Was it 91 or 92? Like 27-0? I just remember being hugely let down.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
By the time the 3 were together we were not getting our clock cleaned. What I saw yesterday was a team down 31 to 3 before they did anything but the same could be said about other team. Houston made a come back aginst the Colts in week 2 with 21 4th qrt points after being down by several points but that did not indicate that Houston was a good team.

We did get it handed to us twice by the Giants in '90 in similar fashion to what the Eagles did to SF yesterday, albeit early in the season and with Michael coming off the knee injury from '89. Once we really got rolling in '91 things changed, although even that year the Eagles let us have it in that Monday Nighter where Aikman was almost killed.

I understand your point, but I just have this hunch they'll make some strides this year. I'd be happy for Norv, without whom our Triplets may never have achieved the same level of success that they did.
 

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jcblanco22 said:
We did get it handed to us twice by the Giants in '90 in similar fashion to what the Eagles did to SF yesterday, albeit early in the season and with Michael coming off the knee injury from '89. Once we really got rolling in '91 things changed, although even that year the Eagles let us have it in that Monday Nighter where Aikman was almost killed.

I understand your point, but I just have this hunch they'll make some strides this year. More than anyone, I'd be happy for Norv, without whom our Triplets may never have achieved the same level of success that they did.

I'll just say I'm not impressed with the 9ers thus far. They may develop into a good team down the road but right now I think they are 1 of the teams that will end up with a top 10 draft pick at the end of the year
 

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jcblanco22 said:
Just curious, and I know today is kind of a weird day to post this given that the Niners did not put on the best show yesterday, but has anyone else thought about the possible parallels to the 1990/1991 Cowboys? I know Norv didn't come on board here until '91, but I do see where under his guidance Smith is going to flourish and where Gore and Bryant are really coming into their own. Even if these guys play for one of our hated rivals I can't help, from a nostalgic standpoint if nothing else, to think of the breakout season of '91 for our own Triplets back in those days.

Not saying that any of the the current three guys will match the accomplishments of Aikman-Emmitt-Irvin, nor that they will match the 11 wins put up by our '91 squad (I do think they'll be close to the 7-9 we put up in '90) but with Norv helping them along in the role he is by far the best at, offensive coordinator, I think they'll make big strides this year.

no, they dont remind me of anyone that played here

Aikman was 100 times the talent Alex Smith is (or ever will be)
Emmitt was 100 times the talent Gore is (or ever will be)
Irvin was 100 times the player Bryant is (or ever will be

but they both have Norv...thats where the comparison ends

David
 

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Danny White said:
I remember when Shuler, Westbrook, and was it Terry Allen? were supposed to be Norv's new triplets.

seems like every yr there are two or three new "triplets"

and none of the sets ever amount to half what our guys were...I really think its comical that it keeps coming up...in their primes Aikman-Smith-Irvin individually were probably the best QB, RB and WR on any team in the NFL...thats highly unlikely to happen again IMO

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
seems like every yr there are two or three new "triplets"

and none of the sets ever amount to half what our guys were...I really think its comical that it keeps coming up...in their primes Aikman-Smith-Irvin individually were probably the best QB, RB and WR on any team in the NFL...thats highly unlikely to happen again IMO

David

Probably the one that had the best chance out of them all still couldn't be the next Triplets.

Manning...James...Harrison.

Sometimes it just kills me that people don't realize just how lucky we were to have those guys...And like you said...Highly unlikely to happen to us again.
 

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Alex Smith, Bryant, Gore and Norv... remind you of anyone?

Sort of reminds me of the 2006 San Francisco 49ers...
 

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BoysfaninVegas said:
This is a joke right?

Thread was meant to compare the similarity in circumstances much moreso than the respective players' individual talents, although the current 49er trio does show solid promise as far as having above-average NFL careers. Not calling anyone currently in San Fran a surefire future Hall of Famer by any means.

I had found it curious that a team used to extensive glory years and multiple championships that has currently fallen on hard times now has Norv Turner coordinating an offense that has a QB taken with the No. 1 overall pick, a running back that was extremely highly regarded coming out of high school but then slipped in the NFL draft, and a brash but talented wide receiver from the state of Florida. Sound like anything we've seen in Dallas before, circumstance-wise?
 

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jcblanco22 said:
Thread was meant to compare the similarity in circumstances much moreso than the respective players' individual talents

so we need to do this for every one of Norv's stops?

The only similarity I see is the Alex Smith was #1 overall -- other than that I see a guy who is whines and rarely does anything against tough defenses and a decent RB who has questionable durability and 4 career starts.
 

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abersonc said:
so we need to do this for every one of Norv's stops?

The only similarity I see is the Alex Smith was #1 overall -- other than that I see a guy who is whines and rarely does anything against tough defenses and a decent RB who has questionable durability and 4 career starts.

I think due to the age and ability of the three involved in his current stop, coupled with the fact that Norv is not in his miscast role as a head coach here but rather can concentrate on what he absolutely does the best, this has the chance to be a success story for him and the team. Not before they get quite a few other pieces in place on their roster, but eventually.
 

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Alex Smith has proved me entirely wrong. I was convinced he could not play. Now under Norv, he has convinced me he will be a Pro Bowl QB very very soon.
Gore is good but must stop the fumbles... is he Emmitt? No way.
Bryant is starting to get his act together... he is not Irvin tho. That said, in the age of parity this is a pretty damn good trio. Vernon Davis troubles me. The man's hands lack but his ability does not. He could be boom or bust.
 

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wayne_motley said:
and still..........I'd trade any wr on our team besides T.O. for him....Glenn only because AB is so young....but I've made foolish decisions before, too.

And this would be another foolish decision. Since I'm blessed to be in the 49ers territory, I've seen their games. Because of his rep as "TO jr." the cameras have followed him on his patterns. Almost every time he thinks he's open and didn't get the ball, he pouts and waves his hands in disgust. He's already thrown fits on the sidelines the last two games, and the local media don't believe he'll get through the season. Trent Dilfer has been assigned mediator between AB, Smith and the coaches.

SF is lacking in talent, so they'll keep him this year. But unless he gets a brain transplant, they will look WR in the draft.
 

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dillinger319 said:
no not at all.. When Gore fumbled that ball and let Patterson take it all the way the only guy chasing him down was Smith.. Had that been our trio Irvin or Emmitt wouldve tackled his big ARSE... I cant believe not a single player would chase after him. PATHETIC

I thought the same thing when I watched it. Where were the WRs, ends, and RBs?
 
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