All 3 QBs had best years with TO...

[khiladi]

and let's try this one last time....ON THE OCCASIONS, in the beginning, when ROMO bought time with his feet, he tended to look the entire field over. Many QB's just look toward one receiver, or to just the short receivers.

Witten was the team's leading receiver... Why aren't you saying Romo forces it to him? Romo checked it down to marion Barber this year a lot. What evidence is there that he wasn't looking the entrie field, when he's buying time looking at the pocket. There is none.And yet, I'll say it again. Romo threw the INT to Terry Glenn, in triple coverage, in the biggest game of his career. Romo threw his INT to Witten against the Ravens, while both TO and Caryton were wide-open. He forced a dud to Roy Williams on the sideline that ended in an INT in the second to last game I believe, when he was being rushed. Also, like I said, Garrett's passing game revolves around the "I" receiver who is the primary target. It is taken from Norv's offense and the Coryell offense. Roy WIlliams will replace TO, but he will become the main target in the passing game.

 

[Hostile]

Speaks volumes.

 

[khiladi]

........

 

[khiladi]

Speaks volumes.

You were also the one of the people who use to say people don't understand football when it comes to those who were blasting Roy WIlliams the safety... What does that speak to you that Roy's locker got cleaned out? And keeping Garrett also speaks volumes... what is your point?

 

[Hostile]

You were also the one of the people who use to say people don't understand football when it comes to those who were blasting Roy WIlliams the safety... What does that speak to you that Roy's locker got cleaned out? And keeping Garrett also speaks volumes... what is your point?

Roy and TO were released on the same day but not for the same reasons. One was a cap savings and a business deal. The other was a purge that caused a cap hit. Teams do not do that unless there are underlying issues. Try to follow along with all the facts instead of simply throwing crap against the wall.

 

[Rampage]

guys, he doesn't play for America's team anymore. he plays for North America's team now

 

[khiladi]

Roy and TO were released on the same day but not for the same reasons. One was a cap savings and a business deal. The other was a purge that caused a cap hit. Teams do not do that unless there are underlying issues. Try to follow along with all the facts instead of simply throwing crap against the wall.

Follow along with me:The fact is, you missed the point. If Roy was as great as you proclaimed, we would have taken the cap hit. Greg Ellis is no Roy WIlliams, and he is still here.

 

[Hostile]

Follow along with me:The fact is, you missed the point. If Roy was as great as you proclaimed, we would have taken the cap hit. Greg Ellis is no Roy WIlliams, and he is still here.

There was no point. There still isn't.

 

[khiladi]

There was no point. There still isn't.

Of yeah there was... Let me repeat it for you:If Roy was as great as YOU PROCLAIMED, WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE CAP HIT. Greg Ellis is no Roy WIlliams, and he is still here.

 

[5Stars]

Of yeah there was... Let me repeat it for you:If Roy was as great as YOU PROCLAIMED, WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE CAP HIT. Greg Ellis is no Roy WIlliams, and he is still here.

:laugh1:


Still crying about TO, huh?


How embarassing!

 

[Hostile]

You were also the one of the people who use to say people don't understand football when it comes to those who were blasting Roy WIlliams the safety... What does that speak to you that Roy's locker got cleaned out? And keeping Garrett also speaks volumes... what is your point?

Of yeah there was... Let me repeat it for you:If Roy was as great as YOU PROCLAIMED, WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE CAP HIT. Greg Ellis is no Roy WIlliams, and he is still here.

You didn't mention Greg Ellis in the post I replied to. For reference I have included it above.

You tried to compare the releasings of Roy and Owens. I said they were for completely different reasons and that remains true.

You can dance around all you want, but the fact remains you're upset that Owens was released and think bringing up irrelevant things about other players somehow justifies the points you are trying to make in this thread.

Jason Garrett
Roy Williams
Greg Ellis

All of these are just spin off topics attempting to deflect some abstract and irrelevant point off of TO or to absolve him of any culpability in his own release.

It hasn't worked. It doesn't work. It will never work.

Garrett and Ellis are still here for reasons unrelated to Owens or Williams who are gone and they are gone for different reasons.

Spin control doesn't work with me. I don't get dizzy.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

And yet, in the biggest game of his career, he forced the ball to a triple-covered Terry Glenn. Against the Ravens, it was Witten he forced it to, while both Crayton and TO were wide-open. Hell, I remember Tony Romo throwing a bone-headed INT in pre-season, when the CB was draped all over the WR who wasn't TO, running to the side of the end-zone. It was chanted all year long, before this year that Tony Romo has a tendency to force the ball and make some bone-headed decisions. But everybody chanted that they could live with it, because he throws 3 TDs. It is quite obvious now, they cannot live with it. They like to escape blame not by saying is TOs fault that Romo forces the ball. Wasn't it Bill Parcells who said that Tony Romo needs to be reigned in and said he was careless with the ball. It is as if the TO-haters just forgot what they use to loudly proclaim. The fact is, Owens is the scape-goat for Garrett's horrible play-calling. The Cowboys in 2007 were a high-octane offense. When teams decided to take away the vertical passing game as a result of TO, Jason Garrett couldn't adjust. It opened a whole new realm of what Tony Romo had to work with. All of Romo's bad tendencies suddenly got displayed in full force. He was running for life all day, while the huge OL had to sustain blocks for a long time, while the WRs had to run 40 yards downfield all the time. That is why the TOs of the Cowboys offense weren't exclusive to INTs, but fumbles on Romo's part.Like I said, Garrett is as bad as Coslett, but I'll give him some lee-way simply because he is young. It is amazing how Garrett gets such a pass. And people say Jerry needs to step out of the nostalgia of the early 90s. Well, you wanna step out of it, then get rid of the baggage that is here because of it...

You might need a therapist. He's just a football player, not Jesus.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

guys, he doesn't play for America's team anymore. he plays for North America's team now

That's never going to get old.

 

[5Stars]

You might need a therapist. He's just a football player, not Jesus.

Of course he's not! Sheesh....


TO is greater than that! Keep up!

 

[khiladi]

You didn't mention Greg Ellis in the post I replied to. For reference I have included it above.



You tried to compare the releasings of Roy and Owens. I said they were for completely different reasons and that remains true.

It isn't that hard to digest...Let me explain it to you one more time. You posted a picture of TOs locker getting cleaned out, saying it 'speaks volumes'. I said so what? Just because TO had his locker room cleaned out doesn't mean TO is the root of the problems. It may speak volumes, but speaking volumes doesn't mean what is being spoken about is true. To give evidence to my point, I said Roy Williams also had his locker room cleaned out. Let me repeat it for you, it doesn't matter if YOU CLAIM that it was for different reasons. If Roy Williams was as great AS YOU CLAIM HE WAS, then he would not have been released for the cap reason you proclaim he was released for. Greg Ellis was SECONDARY, just to demonstrate my point further. He is a cap-hit and safety is more of a need than LB, considering we have Spencer and he was already taking the majority of reps. Greg Ellis hasn't been released, but Roy has. If Roy was as great as you proclaim, then Dallas would have taken the cap-hit. "Spin control doesn't work with me. I don't get dizzy."Well, maybe you should understand the failure of your picture as an analogy before you proclaim your greatness.

 

[khiladi]

You might need a therapist. He's just a football player, not Jesus.

Of course... He's alos not Satan was some people proclaim him to be. It's amazing the hinconsistency of thought on this board.

 

[khiladi]

:laugh1:


Still crying about TO, huh?




How embarassing!

Still following me around... I'd consider that more embarassing, considering my disappointment is regarding what I think was bad for the Cowboys... Whoopity-doo you got what you wanted...

 

[Hostile]

It isn't that hard to digest...Let me explain it to you one more time. You posted a picture of TOs locker getting cleaned out, saying it 'speaks volumes'. I said so what? Just because TO had his locker room cleaned out doesn't mean TO is the root of the problems. It may speak volumes, but speaking volumes doesn't mean what is being spoken about is true. To give evidence to my point, I said Roy Williams also had his locker room cleaned out. Let me repeat it for you, it doesn't matter if YOU CLAIM that it was for different reasons. If Roy Williams was as great AS YOU CLAIM HE WAS, then he would not have been released for the cap reason you proclaim he was released for. Greg Ellis was SECONDARY, just to demonstrate my point further. He is a cap-hit and safety is more of a need than LB, considering we have Spencer and he was already taking the majority of reps. Greg Ellis hasn't been released, but Roy has. If Roy was as great as you proclaim, then Dallas would have taken the cap-hit. "Spin control doesn't work with me. I don't get dizzy."Well, maybe you should understand the failure of your picture as an analogy before you proclaim your greatness.

It still speaks volumes.

Show me Roy's locker being cleared out. The very fact they took photos of this speaks volumes. Otherwise that's just spin control as I said.

It isn't my fault you don't hear the volumes it is speaking and want to play some tired deflection game.

It speaks volumes. You just have to have your eyes and ears open along with your mind.

 

[5Stars]

Still following me around... I'd consider that more embarassing, considering my disappointment is regarding what I think was bad for the Cowboys... Whoopity-doo you got what you wanted...

You are as irrelevant to me as a SuperBowl is to the eagles!


But, I do love to watch you suffer in your misery over your lover!

 

[Dave_in-NC]

It still speaks volumes.

Show me Roy's locker being cleared out. The very fact they took photos of this speaks volumes. Otherwise that's just spin control as I said.

It isn't my fault you don't hear the volumes it is speaking and want to play some tired deflection game.

It speaks volumes. You just have to have your eyes and ears open along with your mind.

I do sooooooooo love that picture.