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KJJ

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who should have been our backup QB.

Who should have been our head coach?

Should we have paid Murray what he got from Phillie?

What could we have done to make losing Romo and Bryant insignificant , or at least less painful?

Please be realistic. Trading for AP and having Showers as the backup are pipe dreams. Please give some valid, realistic options. Please keep salary cap in mind.

Realistically there isn't anything you can do to make the loss of Romo and Dez insignificant or less painful they're irreplaceable. They make this offense go which is why they get paid so much money. There were better backup QBs out there than Weeden in my opinion I said immediately after his performance vs AZ last season that the team needed to attempt to find a more solid backup for 2015. No point in talking about who should be the head coach it's injuries to key players that have put the Cowboys at 2-3 and sinking like the Titanic. Any coach would be in a tough situation losing their franchise QB, top WR and top RB that led the team to a 12-4 season the previous year. I'm not a Jason Garrett fan and he's made some coaching mistakes this season but hard to pin the struggles the team is having on him with him playing with a short deck. The team was 2-0 before all the key injuries occurred and Weeden took over.

We would all have to know the cap situation to know whether we should have paid Murray what Philly did but the team should have gone after a more solid veteran RB than McFadden and invested a draft pick in a young RB. A lot of us knew McFadden and Randle wouldn't be the answer (check my archives) and that it was a mistake for the Cowboys to bank more on the talent they have on the OL than the talent they have at RB. If the Cowboys had the efficient running game they had last season they would have had a better chance of surviving the loss of Romo but with Dez also going down defenses are able to load up against the run which has made the offense ineffective due to our QB/RB/WR situation.
 

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Would you have given Murray the money Phillie did? Was Cassel available early in the off season?

You sign Murray before Philly made their offer. They were his last hope for a big contract. I think Dallas could have gotten him cheaper. You don't lowball him though. You should act like you appreciated everything he did for you last season. And if you decide in the end to let him go, you make replacing him a major priority. As for QB, anyone but Weeden would have been an upgrade.
 

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who should have been our backup QB.

Who should have been our head coach?

Should we have paid Murray what he got from Phillie?

What could we have done to make losing Romo and Bryant insignificant , or at least less painful?

Please be realistic. Trading for AP and having Showers as the backup are pipe dreams. Please give some valid, realistic options. Please keep salary cap in mind.

re qb- its impossible to give a name but Jones should have learned from Laufenberg when Aikman went down. You cant ignore the backup position. No-one on this board felt Vaughn or Weeden was worth the effort and numerous comments were made stating so. Staubach had White and when we lost Orton we needed to replace him with same.

re coach- I dont have any problem with JG and the way this club is run Jones is the real coach anyway

re Murray- no we shouldnt have paid nor did we have the cap room but theres very few that werent shocked we didnt get anyone in the draft. If not the draft then Johnson, Gore, Forsett should have been looked at. When Emmitt sat out and Lassic took over it showed a good line does not guarantee a 1000 yard back. Running back by committee reminds me of Madden saying that when when u have RB by committee its usually a way of saying you have noone. I think this is our #1 pick next year but we gambled to much on trying to get Gurley this year with no backup plan

re Romo and Bryant. Theres nothing we could have done about Bryant-it happens. Re Romo who is great but brittle and especially when u have no backup keep him in the pocket more or he's got to be less aggressive on some plays. No one would have been that upset if he lost that fumble. To fight a 300 lb lineman for a fumble is recipe for disaster.
 

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Get a competent back-up QB?
Not sign players suspended for the first four games?

Don't get me started on signing players with suspension! 4 games was a gift with Hardy. He is going to split next year for the most money he can get. No chance we can afford it.
 

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Any of you who still say we shouldn't have paid Murray are beyond delusional to think we would've had a great year this year. I've been saying for two drafts now that we should have drafted a QB who would be groomed by Romo to replace Romo. Why? Because with his body, his style of play, and his history, you knew he wouldn't last an entire season without a significant injury. So with no Murray and Romo for only part of the season, this was destined to happen. It would not have put us in Cap Hell to pay Murray. I would've rather used Crawford money and restructured Tony for DM. As for Red. He's here, like it or not. JJ made it clear just last year that he was still in training. So that's part of the process and we just have to deal with it. He's a conservative, by the numbers, YES guy and will be that way until he's gone.
 

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who should have been our backup QB.

Who should have been our head coach?

Should we have paid Murray what he got from Phillie?

What could we have done to make losing Romo and Bryant insignificant , or at least less painful?

Please be realistic. Trading for AP and having Showers as the backup are pipe dreams. Please give some valid, realistic options. Please keep salary cap in mind.

They had an entire offseason to address backup QB. It doesn't make sense to go down the entire list of guys, the majority of them better than Weeden.

I'm fine with letting Murray walk but should have done more than signing a washed up McFadden. If FA wasn't an option, then RB should have been priority #1 after the 2nd round.

In terms of Romo/Bryant, apparently not much. It appears we are still operating as if they are on the field.
 

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who should have been our backup QB.

- Shaun Hill
- Matt Schuab
- Colt McCoy

These were all better options than Weeden. They're not good QBs, they're okay but they certainly would have been better than Weeden and they were all FA from what I remember.


Who should have been our head coach?

- I've not bailed on Garrett.


Should we have paid Murray what he got from Phillie?

- Nope. I have no issue with the fact that they didn't give Murray a ton of money. Would it be nice to have him? Of course. But no. Don't break the bank for a RB whose prone to injury and had his only really good year (albeit a great one) in a contract season.


What could we have done to make losing Romo and Bryant insignificant , or at least less painful?

- Better play at the back up QB spot would have made that less painful. This team could very easily be 4-1 with a decent back up QB playing the last 3 weeks.



Please be realistic. Trading for AP and having Showers as the backup are pipe dreams. Please give some valid, realistic options. Please keep salary cap in mind

I did want McCoy during the off season, but then again, I wanted us to trade for Johhny Football as Romo's under study, so what do I know. We could have signed any of those and maybe won a game or two, or we could be sitting here saying," Weedon (insert name) is the worst backup ever!" The point is none would be a sure thing.

Now JFF would have been the answer!
 

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Honestly, sans a victory vs NYG at bare minimum, this season is a total bust.

A busted clavicle, a busted foot, and a busted coaching staff that was too shortsighted to realize we needed to draft a quality replacement for Romo years ago. We should have had said QB groomed for this moment OR bring in someone that has done something in the league that the players could believe in. Nevermind the fact that this RBBC approach has been a colossal failure in its own right.

Also: to see Terrance Williams sucking wind at the #1 WR spot, action should have been taken right then and there to bring in a vet with some kind of mettle to their game, instead we continue to pick up project player after project player- and other than one grab by Butler which he blew a sure TD somehow- none have gotten open. Devin Street is a joke- an absolute comedy in his own right.

So much offensive fail on this team right now, and really the symptoms were present after game 2. The offense was hardly dynamic until the last phases of the Giant game.

In all honesty, without Tony Romo this roster has little chance to be competitive, and without Dez Bryant and Tony Romo? This is a CFL squad with an emerging front 7 on defense but horrific safety play ruins any chance of a 60 minute stout performance. We are markedly worse than the Steelers without Vick, the Cardinals without Palmer, etc. It's shameful what we are throwing out out there right now.

We would be a top 5 team if fully healthy, but right now we are probably the worst team in the NFL. Period. Zero leadership, zero playmakers, and zero hope.

If Romo comes back and we land in the postseason somehow, he should collect NFL MVP awards for each of his seasons in the league, and everyone else should turn theirs in. This team is a disaster without him under center.
 

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They had an entire offseason to address backup QB. It doesn't make sense to go down the entire list of guys, the majority of them better than Weeden.

I'm fine with letting Murray walk but should have done more than signing a washed up McFadden. If FA wasn't an option, then RB should have been priority #1 after the 2nd round.

In terms of Romo/Bryant, apparently not much. It appears we are still operating as if they are on the field.

So what you saying is we should have signed a QB better than Weedon and a RB better than McFadden.

I never thought of that.

Now I see how simple it was
 

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why s it always us called out, hey cheerleaders, YOU LIKE YOUR TEAM???????


you know how i would solved this 3 years ago during any game "hey Jason, your fired on national television"


Big problem solved.

And replaced with whom?
 

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Murray and dez plus weeden didn't yield much different results last yr in Arizona .

Back up qb was the issue. The cowboys were banking on a good offseason and training camp leading to a better weeden.
We are now bankrupt
 

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who should have been our backup QB.

Who should have been our head coach?

Should we have paid Murray what he got from Phillie?

What could we have done to make losing Romo and Bryant insignificant , or at least less painful?

Please be realistic. Trading for AP and having Showers as the backup are pipe dreams. Please give some valid, realistic options. Please keep salary cap in mind.


Ryan Fitzpatrick

Sean Payton when he was available or Harbaugh when 9ers let him leave.

No to Murray.

We should have had a better backup QB.. If they knew Weeden was not good they could've got someone else. At the very least they could've helped him out in the games with some deceptive playcalling instead of letting everyone know what we are doing. Gutless football.
 

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Honestly, sans a victory vs NYG at bare minimum, this season is a total bust.

A busted clavicle, a busted foot, and a busted coaching staff that was too shortsighted to realize we needed to draft a quality replacement for Romo years ago. We should have had said QB groomed for this moment OR bring in someone that has done something in the league that the players could believe in. Nevermind the fact that this RBBC approach has been a colossal failure in its own right.

Also: to see Terrance Williams sucking wind at the #1 WR spot, action should have been taken right then and there to bring in a vet with some kind of mettle to their game, instead we continue to pick up project player after project player- and other than one grab by Butler which he blew a sure TD somehow- none have gotten open. Devin Street is a joke- an absolute comedy in his own right.

So much offensive fail on this team right now, and really the symptoms were present after game 2. The offense was hardly dynamic until the last phases of the Giant game.

In all honesty, without Tony Romo this roster has little chance to be competitive, and without Dez Bryant and Tony Romo? This is a CFL squad with an emerging front 7 on defense but horrific safety play ruins any chance of a 60 minute stout performance. We are markedly worse than the Steelers without Vick, the Cardinals without Palmer, etc. It's shameful what we are throwing out out there right now.

We would be a top 5 team if fully healthy, but right now we are probably the worst team in the NFL. Period. Zero leadership, zero playmakers, and zero hope.

If Romo comes back and we land in the postseason somehow, he should collect NFL MVP awards for each of his seasons in the league, and everyone else should turn theirs in. This team is a disaster without him under center.

Damn, I agree with a lot of what you said, but I have to go find a rope and a tree after reading it!
 
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