All time Cowboys QB Stats

[Rockport]

Moving the goal posts again, or still.
I am not putting down Dak or Tony. But I am not defending them by tearing down a 3 time SB winning HOF QB either.

Yes it is a team game. But you are taking it to a different level to defend others. Of course it is a different game and time. But you just can't say they would have had the same success with those teams.
Just like Troy may not have had success with the current teams that Tony and Dak had. It is a moot point to compare. But yet some are doing it, but it is not a justification by any means.

Not moving the goal posts. Just stating facts. Your problem they don’t fit your agenda.

 

[blueblood70]

Moving the goal posts again, or still.
I am not putting down Dak or Tony. But I am not defending them by tearing down a 3 time SB winning HOF QB either.

Yes it is a team game. But you are taking it to a different level to defend others. Of course it is a different game and time. But you just can't say they would have had the same success with those teams.
Just like Troy may not have had success with the current teams that Tony and Dak had. It is a moot point to compare. But yet some are doing it, but it is not a justification by any means.

3 toime sb winnig TEAMS

sorry not moving the goal post those teams were ridiculously better. troy was not he catalyst 22 was, that OL was, Moose, Irvin, Novack, back to OL and run game in the playoffs that the dang difference ok bobby,, dang it bobby get it right

Nick foles is a SB winner must be as good as all those other qbs with 1sb.. Dilfer sb flacco sb, many qbs, mcmahon, have team Lombardi's to brag about.. Troy was great but the he didn't have to carry the team on offense the leader was 22 and he got help from an OL built to run and FB built to blow open holes. Facts. that opened up the 8-88 PA pass..aLL FACTS.

while Romo and dak has had some talent on their teams over periods, never ever been put together on one team and made it to the playoffs intact..fact

more facts again go look at all the 90s playoff games check the run game production OL pass protection etc etc now check Daks, last 3 loses no run game at all no support from the OL, these are easy you see why some payers are on teams that work together for a Lombardi and others suffer ridiculous expectations on weaker teams that fail and coaching does MATTER.

Jimmy and his staffs vs Garett all with GM jerry

Landry and his staffs vs Garett all with GM jerry

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

and some of you do NOT understand how great of teams those other qbs played for , HOF players, coaches and other factors ie more depth when there wasn't cap, franchise tags, TT, FA etc etc , kept teams their longer

dang right it was different era but i never saw Troy win without 22 and that OL or that defense featuring multiple HOFers, back to coaching staffs etc etc same with Landry and Staubach umm how many HOFers on those teams?

22 carried those offenses with that OL, Moose, and the dedication to the run, Troy was great but hardly the reason for those sbs the gap between Troy/romo./dak not as big as you might seem, Dak has had now 3 straight playoff loses where our OL didn't show up and play physical ie NO RUN GAME, poor pass protection and well we didn't have the support for dak that toy got every game. Staubach plays with great OL, 2 great rbs and Landry

somehow you trying to convince us that pas happy league with rules to help the offense is somehow making those QBs less of what their stats are.

nope, put dak, romo, or white on those exact team int eh exact situations just swap the qb, bet they are successful... take emmitt away from troy , hae 2 best OL not be available for the playoff runs etc and see how he comes out.. its a team game Dak and romo have not had the complete teams and coaching staffs those players had and that why we have went 30 years without anther sb, not he quality of qb play.. they are at distinct disadvantage,

asking Dak to not have smith , OL and Jimmy Johnson staffs. right thats fair..LOL

That's the issue. Romo and Dak had subpar coaching with Garrett. Imagine what they could've been with a better coach. I think McCarthy wouldve been brilliant with Romo, and I think he's doing well with Dak. Just a shame he didn't get here in Daks rookie year.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not moving the goal posts. Just stating facts. Your problem they don’t fit your agenda.

I don't have an agenda. But you do obviously.

 

[jazzcat22]

3 toime sb winnig TEAMS

sorry not moving the goal post those teams were ridiculously better. troy was not he catalyst 22 was, that OL was, Moose, Irvin, Novack, back to OL and run game in the playoffs that the dang difference ok bobby,, dang it bobby get it right

Nick foles is a SB winner must be as good as all those other qbs with 1sb.. Dilfer sb flacco sb, many qbs, mcmahon, have team Lombardi's to brag about.. Troy was great but the he didn't have to carry the team on offense the leader was 22 and he got help from an OL built to run and FB built to blow open holes. Facts. that opened up the 8-88 PA pass..aLL FACTS.

while Romo and dak has had some talent on their teams over periods, never ever been put together on one team and made it to the playoffs intact..fact

more facts again go look at all the 90s playoff games check the run game production OL pass protection etc etc now check Daks, last 3 loses no run game at all no support from the OL, these are easy you see why some payers are on teams that work together for a Lombardi and others suffer ridiculous expectations on weaker teams that fail and coaching does MATTER.

Jimmy and his staffs vs Garett all with GM jerry

Landry and his staffs vs Garett all with GM jerry

Let us play...where is the goal post....If I wanted to take the time, I would photoshop a pic of where is Waldo, and add a goal post.
Or maybe a pic of Dak and Tony.
Once again, you can't really compare all of this.

 

[Rockport]

I don't have an agenda. But you do obviously.

 

[CowboyRoy]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/career-passing.htm

Aikman down there with Quincy Carter on TD percentage. Thats pretty sad.

 

[CowboyRoy]

When you compare us to other teams, I'd say that the Cowboys have done well overall at QB.

Amazing what we have had at QB the last 17 years and not a title or even championship game to show for it. It underlines the ineptitude of Jerry Jones as GM.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Moving the goal posts again, or still.
I am not putting down Dak or Tony. But I am not defending them by tearing down a 3 time SB winning HOF QB either.

Yes it is a team game. But you are taking it to a different level to defend others. Of course it is a different game and time. But you just can't say they would have had the same success with those teams.
Just like Troy may not have had success with the current teams that Tony and Dak had. It is a moot point to compare. But yet some are doing it, but it is not a justification by any means.

Aikman was basically a bus driver QB that handed the ball off to Emmitt.

Why argue otherwise? When the Oline faded just a little bit, Aikman was getting killed in the pocket. I was at the Giants game later in his career when he threw 5 picks.

He also NEVER won a game without Emmitt.

 

[starfan1]

Aikman was basically a bus driver QB that handed the ball off to Emmitt.

Why argue otherwise. When the Oline faded just a little bit, Aikman was getting killed in the pocket. I was at the Giants game later in his career when he threw 5 picks.

He also NEVER won a game without Emmitt.

Not to take away anything from the quality of the team that Troy had but when the playoffs lights were on Troy shined the brightest. He was his best when the team needed it the most. His accuracy was on point

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not to take away anything from the quality of the team that Troy had but when the playoffs lights were on Troy shined the brightest. He was his best when the team needed it the most. His accuracy was on point

He was deadly accurate on the short to medium throws. His deep ball when he had to air it out he wasnt as consistent. But lets not forget that he had the best play action game in the league at the time. Defenses were stacking the box and biting on those run fakes all game long.

 

[starfan1]

He was deadly accurate on the short to medium throws. His deep ball when he had to air it out he wasnt as consistent. But lets not forget that he had the best play action game in the league at the time. Defenses were stacking the box and biting on those run fakes all game long.

No disagreement there . He also played when the qb wasn’t so protected nor receivers

It’s hard to compare eras. Not sure Romo or Dak survive the 70s or 90s but who knows

Like already mentioned we have been blessed at the position

 

[CowboyRoy]

No disagreement there . He also played when the qb wasn’t so protected nor receivers

It’s hard to compare eras. Not sure Romo or Dak survive the 70s or 90s but who knows

Like already mentioned we have been blessed at the position

Well, if romo and Dak played in the 90's they would have had much better protection from the Oline. Certainly Romo wouldnt have had to carry the team every game like he had to.

 

[mrmojo]

Only this forum would bash a 3 rime SB winning QB. Give me Staubach or Aikman any day of the week

 

[DallasEast]

Just my opinion of watching the NFL from the 1970’s to the present:

Both Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman would put up Patrick Mahomes numbers if either quarterback was Kansas City’s starter last season and were 27 years old.

The specific offensive and era would change but what each player would be able to accomplish via knowledge and talent would not change.

Statistics are always relevant but ability and performance are the true determinations. Of course, the opportunity of seeing any player during live games is an observer’s advantage when speculating on what ifs.

 

[blueblood70]

Let us play...where is the goal post....If I wanted to take the time, I would photoshop a pic of where is Waldo, and add a goal post.
Or maybe a pic of Dak and Tony.
Once again, you can't really compare all of this.

nor can you. no time machine to prove either hypothessis.,like remove Emmitt insert zeke do they still go on that run..its possible ") im say dak and romo are every bit as skilled as troy and could ride that wave every bit like troy did..

 

[starfan1]

Well, if romo and Dak played in the 90's they would have had much better protection from the Oline. Certainly Romo wouldnt have had to carry the team every game like he had to.

Up until last 2 years Dak has had a good line and this myth that all of Romos career was played with a bad line is just that a myth.

He had pro bowlers just like aikman and Roger

That said there were a few years he had to play magician . I’d say he had more suspect defenses than lines

 

[817Gill]

Refreshing thread love to see it. Real convos going on.

 

[rambo2]

Very misleading! Dak is as good as Mahomes when it comes to beating a bad team but is on par with Ryan Leaf when it comes to performing in playoff games.

Lol, you lose all credibility with the Ryan Leaf take.

 

[rambo2]

Just goes to show you that it's not the stats, but the superbowl wins.

It will be funny if Dak wins 2 Super Bowls.