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I knew that. However my opinion is (and it's just that, an opinion) is that Jimmy Johnson had a hand in that team to some extent on what he built after he left and what Aikman had to work with.

And you're right, there is a million what if's...
I agree. that's been my argument for those who defend Jones having won superbowls, that he has never done it without Jimmy and his influence. when Jimmy's players were gone, we have never come close.

so Jimmy as a defacto GM, but not as a head coach.....
 

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I agree. that's been my argument for those who defend Jones having won superbowls, that he has never done it without Jimmy and his influence. when Jimmy's players were gone, we have never come close.

so Jimmy as a defacto GM, but not as a head coach.....
Jerry did win those Super Bowls that JJ won because Jerry hired JJ.

End of the day, it's up to the owners to hire his management to run his team. Most good owners IMO tries their best to stay out of the spotlight on how the team is run because it's really not their job IMO.

You don't get to have the money to buy a football team because you made your previous money on football LOL
 

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Jerry did win those Super Bowls that JJ won because Jerry hired JJ.

End of the day, it's up to the owners to hire his management to run his team. Most good owners IMO tries their best to stay out of the spotlight on how the team is run because it's really not their job IMO.

You don't get to have the money to buy a football team because you made your previous money on football LOL
I don't disagree. Jerry did a great job. hired the right coach. made him defacto GM. allowed him to do his job.

then Jerry said, I am the GM and since then we suck.

Jerry is not a GM. he is a good owner. as an owner he gets credit. just like all other owners who hired the right GMs and coaches and won superbowls. he just hired the wrong GM and won't fire him
 

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I don't disagree. Jerry did a great job. hired the right coach. made him defacto GM. allowed him to do his job.

then Jerry said, I am the GM and since then we suck.

Jerry is not a GM. he is a good owner. as an owner he gets credit. just like all other owners who hired the right GMs and coaches and won superbowls. he just hired the wrong GM and won't fire him
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I don't disagree. Jerry did a great job. hired the right coach. made him defacto GM. allowed him to do his job.

then Jerry said, I am the GM and since then we suck.

Jerry is not a GM. he is a good owner. as an owner he gets credit. just like all other owners who hired the right GMs and coaches and won superbowls. he just hired the wrong GM and won't fire him
On the part I bolded, 150% spot on.

On Jerry being a good owner, it all comes down to how you define "good owner". Yes, no doubt, the value of the cowboys has increased immensely under his ownership, but the same could be said for a lot of football team owners since the world is getting smaller and NFL teams aren't increasing in numbers. I would however respectfully argue that Jerry could do more for the team if he would just keep his mouth shut (not unlike some other NFL owners).
 

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I don't disagree. Jerry did a great job. hired the right coach. made him defacto GM. allowed him to do his job.

then Jerry said, I am the GM and since then we suck.

Jerry is not a GM. he is a good owner. as an owner he gets credit. just like all other owners who hired the right GMs and coaches and won superbowls. he just hired the wrong GM and won't fire him
this part is false. Now we do suck in the post season but we are far from sucking since 1996 we are 232-206 thats above average. 7 division titles in 27 years isnt sucking. Its what we do afterwards that we suck at. And yes Jerry stinks as a GM but we are competive every year. we have had 8 losing seasons but 3 in a row under campo dont help. Most of the others were brought on by major injuries. I cant stand jerry Jones but we havent sucked. we just havent matched 70's and 90's success
 

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this part is false. Now we do suck in the post season but we are far from sucking since 1996 we are 232-206 thats above average. 7 division titles in 27 years isnt sucking. Its what we do afterwards that we suck at. And yes Jerry stinks as a GM but we are competive every year. we have had 8 losing seasons but 3 in a row under campo dont help. Most of the others were brought on by major injuries. I cant stand jerry Jones but we havent sucked. we just havent matched 70's and 90's success
no, we suck based on being one of the worst post season performance teams across all of NFL. I believe we are bottom 3 sucking type.
 

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no, we suck based on being one of the worst post season performance teams across all of NFL. I believe we are bottom 3 sucking type.
no argument there 23rd in league at 5-12 and if were doing win % Id say it would be worse but truth be told if the standard is lombardis 13 teams have hoisted it and 21 have played in it. Its a far cry from past success. another reason why Im just not a SB or bust fan.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/playoff-wins-by-an-nfl-team-since-1996

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-super-bowl-appearances-since-1996
 

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this part is false. Now we do suck in the post season but we are far from sucking since 1996 we are 232-206 thats above average. 7 division titles in 27 years isnt sucking. Its what we do afterwards that we suck at. And yes Jerry stinks as a GM but we are competive every year. we have had 8 losing seasons but 3 in a row under campo dont help. Most of the others were brought on by major injuries. I cant stand jerry Jones but we havent sucked. we just havent matched 70's and 90's success
Oh no....you invoked the name which shall not named.:mad:

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no argument there 23rd in league at 5-12 and if were doing win % Id say it would be worse but truth be told if the standard is lombardis 13 teams have hoisted it and 21 have played in it. Its a far cry from past success. another reason why Im just not a SB or bust fan.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/playoff-wins-by-an-nfl-team-since-1996

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-super-bowl-appearances-since-1996
It doesn't HAVE to be the super bowl (win)...every year. A couple NFC champ games, a SB appearance every...10 years?

Hard to argue we are mostly competitive during the regular season. There must be a reason we suck so bad in the playoffs. We have plenty of examples.
 

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It doesn't HAVE to be the super bowl (win)...every year. A couple NFC champ games, a SB appearance every...10 years?

Hard to argue we are mostly competitive during the regular season. There must be a reason we suck so bad in the playoffs. We have plenty of examples.
Yep they have crapped the bed for a variety of reasons QB,Coaching,Defense,Line we find unique ways to crap the bed
 

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3 toime sb winnig TEAMS

sorry not moving the goal post those teams were ridiculously better. troy was not he catalyst 22 was, that OL was, Moose, Irvin, Novack, back to OL and run game in the playoffs that the dang difference ok bobby,, dang it bobby get it right :facepalm:

Nick foles is a SB winner must be as good as all those other qbs with 1sb.. Dilfer sb flacco sb, many qbs, mcmahon, have team Lombardi's to brag about.. Troy was great but the he didn't have to carry the team on offense the leader was 22 and he got help from an OL built to run and FB built to blow open holes. Facts. that opened up the 8-88 PA pass..aLL FACTS.

while Romo and dak has had some talent on their teams over periods, never ever been put together on one team and made it to the playoffs intact..fact

more facts again go look at all the 90s playoff games check the run game production OL pass protection etc etc now check Daks, last 3 loses no run game at all no support from the OL, these are easy you see why some payers are on teams that work together for a Lombardi and others suffer ridiculous expectations on weaker teams that fail and coaching does MATTER.

Jimmy and his staffs vs Garett all with GM jerry

Landry and his staffs vs Garett all with GM jerry
Twas a different ERA and Jimmy was able to collect, bring in and orchestrate, an insanely deep roster, Herschel Walker was the catalyst that enabled the leverage build, Jimmy actually wasted some of that mega bounty when you go back and look at some of the busts that we took with picks we received.

Such a lop-sided trade, hood wink deal symbiotic chronologically with Jimmys short stay, and Aikman was the perfect QB on the perfect offense/team during that time frame.

Aikman was accurate and adapted well, he would still be the prototype QB in even todays NFL, he would be a top QB draft prospect coming out of college.

Aikman has 3 rings on his hand and should not be compared to the try hard committee that this FO jettisons to superhero franchise QB status ever since his departure.
 

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Twas a different ERA and Jimmy was able to collect, bring in and orchestrate, an insanely deep roster, Herschel Walker was the catalyst that enabled the leverage build, Jimmy actually wasted some of that mega bounty when you go back and look at some of the busts that we took with picks we received.

Such a lop-sided trade, hood wink deal symbiotic chronologically with Jimmys short stay, and Aikman was the perfect QB on the perfect offense/team during that time frame.

Aikman was accurate and adapted well, he would still be the prototype QB in even todays NFL, he would be a top QB draft prospect coming out of college.

Aikman has 3 rings on his hand and should not be compared to the try hard committee that this FO jettisons to superhero franchise QB status ever since his departure.
again, ridiculous teams he was part of 22 was the heart of the team , OL 2nd, then Aikman on offense wasn't the best player on the team maybe 5th.. , foles has 1 rogers has 1 i guess they are the same exact QB..right..thats not how it works. Brees 1 vs Dilfer 1 i guess they are in the same level of greatness. Flacco has 1sb Farve 1 i gues theu are exacly the same level of qb? need more??

Stafford 1 Marino none

I guess Staffords better for sure?

Bears Mcmahon 1 warren moon 0
Brad johnson 1 phillip river 0

:laugh: :facepalm: ;)
 

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again, ridiculous teams he was part of 22 was the heart of the team , OL 2nd, then Aikman on offense wasn't the best player on the team maybe 5th.. , foles has 1 rogers has 1 i guess they are the same exact QB..right..thats not how it works. Brees 1 vs Dilfer 1 i guess they are in the same level of greatness. Flacco has 1sb Farve 1 i gues theu are exacly the same level of qb? need more??

Stafford 1 Marino none

I guess Staffords better for sure?

Bears Mcmahon 1 warren moon 0
Brad johnson 1 phillip river 0

:laugh: :facepalm: ;)
Too many emojis for me and kinda hard to understand what your saying, and I usually read through your post 2 times and you make sense sometimes.
 

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easy way to say you got schooled, no come back.. NEXT



Just how did I get schooled exactly?

Was actually agreeing with part of what you were trying to say but you're so punchy that your too quick to dismiss actual potential conversation.
 

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this part is false. Now we do suck in the post season but we are far from sucking since 1996 we are 232-206 thats above average. 7 division titles in 27 years isnt sucking. Its what we do afterwards that we suck at. And yes Jerry stinks as a GM but we are competive every year. we have had 8 losing seasons but 3 in a row under campo dont help. Most of the others were brought on by major injuries. I cant stand jerry Jones but we havent sucked. we just havent matched 70's and 90's success
2008 season___Cowboys 8-4 after a Turkey Day win..but then went 1-3 in December to give away another playoff berth.

Don't forget those 3 straight 8-8 seasons under Garrett.
Cowboys missed getting into the playoffs three more times, along with getting another division title, because___
• Dallas lost the last game of the regular season EACH TIME TO A DIVISION RIVAL
* 2011 - New York
* 2012 - Washington
* 2013 - Philadelphia
 
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