Allen & Melton Super hot merge thread

[xwalker]

They won't cut Carr this year; I was talking about after the 2014 season. At some point, Dallas needs to stop maxing out their credit cards and bite the bullet(s) with their bad contracts.

Carr is currently the 2nd highest paid CB in the league. He was very below-average in 2013, tota suspect that this will be his last year in Dallas.

If they keep him it does not really matter is he is restructured or not. His current base salary will add to the multiple year cap total regardless of whether it stays as 7.5M base or a 1M base with 6.5M restructure bonus.

 

[ConstantReboot]

With two higher-profile free agents like Jared Allen, who was born in Dallas, and Henry Melton, also from Texas...

I would not put it past Jerry Jones to wait until we have them both signed, jersey numbers assigned/printed, to do a presser to announce them both.

Hold up the jersey with their name/number, talk about what an honor it is to play for their childhood favorite team, talk about winning a Super Bowl in Dallas, playing for Coach Marinelli, etc. etc.

Well thought of and I think your right. The silence before the storm I might add.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Today will be the day we find out if there is a real reason for optimism and a chance to compete every week or we find out this ship will be docked for a total refurbish.

 

[casmith07]

1) Even if we pay Jared Allen a Ware-like amount of money, the salary cap management makes more sense -- Jared Allen will not count $12.25M this year and $16.75M next year against the cap.

2) With an anticipated $20M in cap space, and base salaries from $6.5-$7.5M, Brandon Carr doesn't need to be released or restructured anymore. Neither does Tony Romo or Jason Witten.

3) Brandon Carr, after the Talib signing and the impending Revis signing is NOT the 2nd highest paid CB in the NFL in dollars per year. People need to stop drinking Haterade on Brandon Carr to fit their agendas.

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All of that being said, I think we announce both Jared Allen and Henry Melton simultaneously today or tomorrow. We can afford both, still have money for our rookie pool, and then have plenty of cap space next year to extend both Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith if necessary; however, my guess is we'll exercise our team option on Smith in order to pay him a 5th year at the rookie scale rate to absorb his biggest cap hit in a front-loaded deal in 2016, where the salary cap will likely rise even more.

We are in a good position.

 

[Galian Beast]

1) Even if we pay Jared Allen a Ware-like amount of money, the salary cap management makes more sense -- Jared Allen will not count $12.25M this year and $16.75M next year against the cap.

2) With an anticipated $20M in cap space, and base salaries from $6.5-$7.5M, Brandon Carr doesn't need to be released or restructured anymore. Neither does Tony Romo or Jason Witten.

3) Brandon Carr, after the Talib signing and the impending Revis signing is NOT the 2nd highest paid CB in the NFL in dollars per year. People need to stop drinking Haterade on Brandon Carr to fit their agendas.

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All of that being said, I think we announce both Jared Allen and Henry Melton simultaneously today or tomorrow. We can afford both, still have money for our rookie pool, and then have plenty of cap space next year to extend both Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith if necessary; however, my guess is we'll exercise our team option on Smith in order to pay him a 5th year at the rookie scale rate to absorb his biggest cap hit in a front-loaded deal in 2016, where the salary cap will likely rise even more.

We are in a good position.

If you combine 8 million for Jared Allen with the 8 million in prorated salary, you're right back at that 16 million dollar cap hit we originally had for ware. At least for this year, he will cost as much as Ware, unless we sign him to multiple years and spread it out more.

Do you still plan on extending Dez and Tyron? Carter, Murray? All of that will cost some money. Not to mention any free agents we get this year/next year...

Talib signed a contract averaging 9.5 million per year, Revis always made more than Carr. Carr is STILL the 2nd highest paid corner in the nfl... and it is completely unwarranted for him to receive that much in return for his play. He is no where close to the 2nd best corner in the league... He isn't even top 10. The guy needs to be asked to take a serious pay cut. Something more along the lines of 6.5 million per year (Average) which would be a pay cut of 10.5 million dollars over the the next 3 years. He is currently scheduled to make 24.6 million over those three years, so instead it would bring that down to 14.6 million. Amounts to about a 3.5 million a year pay cut in base salary. I would then prorate his current years salary to open up more room.

 

[TheSport78]

We have roughly $6.5 million dollars of cap room right now.

If I'm not mistaken, with releasing Justin Durant and Jeremy Parnell, that would free up another $3 million. So, if you can convince Allen and Melton to sign backloaded contracts (essentially fit both of their base salaries in 2014 to $9.5 million), then I'm cool with it!

Do NOT restructure Carr or Witten, because moves like that are exactly why we cannot be competitive in free agency.

 

[rwill784]

I don't understand the dislike of Carr I actually think he's the best corner we have had in years. I'd think no pass rush would have a lot to do with why he had a down year, but make no mistake dude still had a better than average year. With our front 4 problems I think that's pretty good. Is he worth every dime spent....no but neither is revis or talib imho. Revis isn't elite anymore and gets by on name and talib is a dummy off field and on and can't be counted on for 16 games. Ne wouldn't have let him walk just to overpay for revis if he was as good as advertised. And they Damn sure wouldn't be playing fort their 3rd teams in as many years if so.

Carr isn't deion but he's no slouch. I'd rather have him than a lot of other corners in the league. Get him a pass rush then critique him.

 

[NJ22]

I am betting we don't get Allen OR Melton. Just to keep the perpetual disappointment that is the Cowboys rolling. Prove me wrong jerry. Get'm both.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Yes, this totally needed its own thread.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Thanks for sharing your doomsday prep plan.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yes, this totally needed its own thread.

It's the me generation thing.

 

[diehard2294]

Why would either one want to come here when we can't pay them squat.

 

[Alexander]

Why would either one want to come here when we can't pay them squat.

We can pay them, at a price that will impact down the road. Really depends on what they want in up front money.

 

[Risen Star]

Why would either one want to come here when we can't pay them squat.

We wouldn't have either of them in if we couldn't pay them.

We can't win a bidding war for them though.

 

[unionjack8]

I think we get melton but not allen

 

[Risen Star]

We can pay them, at a price that will impact down the road. Really depends on what they want in up front money.

Yeah I don't know what some people think goes on behind the scenes.

Stephen: You want how much?!.....Wow, we could never pay that. ...... How about you come in for a visit?

 

[Dwight]

Why would either one want to come here when we can't pay them squat.

I understand your point but lets take a wait and see approach. I hope they both sign with the team because Dallas needs starters badly on the dline.

 

[NJ22]

Yes, this totally needed its own thread.

Wow it's own thread!!! I am out of control! Thank goodness the thread patrol is here. Go chase yourself.

 

[Alexander]

Wow it's own thread!!! I am out of control! Thank goodness the thread patrol is here. Go chase yourself.

If you do not stop, you could end up on someone's ignore list. Tread lightly, loose cannon.

 

[NJ22]

I think we get melton but not allen

I think that is most likely. I know it is better to go young but I'd really like to get Allen. I think we haven't had a tough guy on this D in a long time and we need one.