Although Depth is light, think we will be fine at cb

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Many of the media scouts thought Kelvin Joseph was a legit 1st rd talent, but had off the field concerns and had limited experience on the college level that had him fall into the 2nd rd. He was drafted to eventually become the starter over Anthony Brown. This is his opportunity to do so. The team must find out now as next season both Brown/Lewis could be both off the roster. His college tape was very good against top competition in the SEC.

Before anyone says, he couldn't even beat out Bland, he has been the team's #3 outside corner, where Bland has played strictly inside at the nickel. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times. Joseph offers far more potential at the position, but like Bland we have to expect some growing pains as well.
 
Many of the media scouts thought Kelvin Joseph was a legit 1st rd talent, but had off the field concerns and had limited experience on the college level that had him fall into the 2nd rd. He was drafted to eventually become the starter over Anthony Brown. This is his opportunity to do so. The team must find out now as next season both Brown/Lewis could be both off the roster. His college tape was very good against top competition in the SEC.

Before anyone says, he couldn't even beat out Bland, he has been the team's #3 outside corner, where Bland has played strictly inside at the nickel. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times. Joseph offers far more potential at the position, but like Bland we have to expect some growing pains as well.

All true but now the true test. Not based on scouts views of him but his own play on the field
 
KJ is still so green, but so was Sam, Bland and Clark upon their introduction to starting snaps, and we have seen their development take place so I'm not dismissing KJs ability to possibly step up and develop into positive contribution just yet, let's give him the same opportunity.

Just saying at this point in the schedule we have some time to figure out the best way to shuffle this secondary still, the season isn't over because of the loss of Brown.

Loosing Lewis and Brown most recently is a hit, but injuries are part of the game, and we at least have some depth with upside at DB.

Joseph has the physical skills to become the player that we all want to see, and his introduction comes at a point in the schedule that he can develop down the stretch, and possibly discover himself as well and be a player in Qs defense.

It's part of the game, so learn quickly KJ because Q has other rostered options that will be pushing you as well.

KJ is not the last option this team has.
 
He does stupid stuff, but I'm hoping that's a nervousness issue that he gets over quickly.
Qs biggest concern right now is Josephs presence in a starting role, this cannot be argued.
Another non debatable point will be the absence of Donovan Wilson lining up at the LOS with Joseph starting, he will be moved back to support Joseph over the top at least initially.
As much as Brown has been dissed around here, his absence changes this defense much more than the loss of Jordon Lewis.
 
Qs biggest concern right now is Josephs presence in a starting role, this cannot be argued.
Another non debatable point will be the absence of Donovan Wilson lining up at the LOS with Joseph starting, he will be moved back to support Joseph over the top at least initially.
As much as Brown has been dissed around here, his absence changes this defense much more than the loss of Jordon Lewis.
Maybe, but Quinn strikes me as the "Let's see what he can do, and if we need to, then we'll give him help." type guy.
 
Many of the media scouts thought Kelvin Joseph was a legit 1st rd talent, but had off the field concerns and had limited experience on the college level that had him fall into the 2nd rd. He was drafted to eventually become the starter over Anthony Brown. This is his opportunity to do so. The team must find out now as next season both Brown/Lewis could be both off the roster. His college tape was very good against top competition in the SEC.

Before anyone says, he couldn't even beat out Bland, he has been the team's #3 outside corner, where Bland has played strictly inside at the nickel. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times. Joseph offers far more potential at the position, but like Bland we have to expect some growing pains as well.
Joseph has issues with awareness and penalties. I question his ball skills as well. Physically he holds up well just needs to know when the ball is coming his way.
 
Many of the media scouts thought Kelvin Joseph was a legit 1st rd talent, but had off the field concerns and had limited experience on the college level that had him fall into the 2nd rd. He was drafted to eventually become the starter over Anthony Brown. This is his opportunity to do so. The team must find out now as next season both Brown/Lewis could be both off the roster. His college tape was very good against top competition in the SEC.

Before anyone says, he couldn't even beat out Bland, he has been the team's #3 outside corner, where Bland has played strictly inside at the nickel. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times. Joseph offers far more potential at the position, but like Bland we have to expect some growing pains as well.
All true but now the true test. Not based on scouts views of him but his own play on the field
Hope KJ steps up and answers the call. We really need it and he has to be running out of time in the coaches eyes.
KJ is still so green, but so was Sam, Bland and Clark upon their introduction to starting snaps, and we have seen their development take place so I'm not dismissing KJs ability to possibly step up and develop into positive contribution just yet, let's give him the same opportunity.

Just saying at this point in the schedule we have some time to figure out the best way to shuffle this secondary still, the season isn't over because of the loss of Brown.

Loosing Lewis and Brown most recently is a hit, but injuries are part of the game, and we at least have some depth with upside at DB.

Joseph has the physical skills to become the player that we all want to see, and his introduction comes at a point in the schedule that he can develop down the stretch, and possibly discover himself as well and be a player in Qs defense.

It's part of the game, so learn quickly KJ because Q has other rostered options that will be pushing you as well.

KJ is not the last option this team has.
His irregular and truncated collegiate play has put Kelvin Joseph at this crossroad in his professional career.
Can \ Will he really focus to studyc,understand, and work very hard to succeed to become a quality NFL cornerback (or better) for the Dallas Cowboys....ASAP?
 
His irregular and truncated collegiate play has put Kelvin Joseph at this crossroad in his professional career.
Can \ Will he really focus to studyc,understand, and work very hard to succeed to become a quality NFL cornerback (or better) for the Dallas Cowboys....ASAP?

I think Al Harris the secondary coach will get the most out of him. I expect some ups and downs that is one of the hardest positions in the league to play, thankfully we have the best pass rushing teams in the league and that will benefit Joseph.
 
He does stupid stuff, but I'm hoping that's a nervousness issue that he gets over quickly.


Well what I know is this. Brown is limited physically but coaches seem to trust him more to know what to do, be in position, cover the right guy etc. joseph seems to have the physical traits but maybe isn't the best student in the class room to understand how offenses attack and make the needed changes to coverages on the fly or something.
 
Based on the way the Cowboys put it, that they would try KJ first, it sounds like they are not completely sold on him. Then they are building up the practice squad guy which makes no sense to me. You have Wright and Joseph on the 53 man roster. If Kendall Sheffield is so good, why isn't he on the 53 man roster? Maybe it is a roster space issue? Seems like Brown going on IR fixes that problem.

Anyway, I think it could be a big deal any time a starter goes down. Brown is not the greatest but he is steady and experienced. KJ is so inexperienced and clueless he will get a baptism by fire. Not everyone survives that procedure.
 
Many of the media scouts thought Kelvin Joseph was a legit 1st rd talent, but had off the field concerns and had limited experience on the college level that had him fall into the 2nd rd. He was drafted to eventually become the starter over Anthony Brown. This is his opportunity to do so. The team must find out now as next season both Brown/Lewis could be both off the roster. His college tape was very good against top competition in the SEC.

Before anyone says, he couldn't even beat out Bland, he has been the team's #3 outside corner, where Bland has played strictly inside at the nickel. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times. Joseph offers far more potential at the position, but like Bland we have to expect some growing pains as well.

most other years I would agree with you
This year, given the NFC we have a real shot at a SB and I’m not rolling the dice with Joseph
Philly has great WRs and we will need to go through them
We need another starting outside CB
 
The kid on the PS has some nfl experience and under Quinn. He should be solid depth but we need Joseph to take the reins and be decent. He will get picked on but if he can just be decent with our pass rush he might be ok
Lewis is signed for next year, brown is a FA coming off a tough injury late in the season
I think it’s likely brown signs back on one year deal then hits the FA market
CB is certainly a spot I could see us addressing in t by e draft if Joseph struggles since he was drafted to be the next starter
 
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. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times.

And yet Joseph has only received 87 snaps on the year. Tell you everything you need to know about how the coaching staff feels.
 
.. here's the deal. We can't afford growing pains, at this juncture of time.

We need some experience at CB. Playoff atmosphere has arrived. Along with the implications.
 
Many of the media scouts thought Kelvin Joseph was a legit 1st rd talent, but had off the field concerns and had limited experience on the college level that had him fall into the 2nd rd. He was drafted to eventually become the starter over Anthony Brown. This is his opportunity to do so. The team must find out now as next season both Brown/Lewis could be both off the roster. His college tape was very good against top competition in the SEC.

Before anyone says, he couldn't even beat out Bland, he has been the team's #3 outside corner, where Bland has played strictly inside at the nickel. Anthony Brown has been torched the last month with deep passes and has struggled defending the run at times. Joseph offers far more potential at the position, but like Bland we have to expect some growing pains as well.
That’s just it…until these guys have been targeted by OCs for a full game, we don’t really know if they will be fine or not. Count me as somewhat concerned about KJ.
 

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