Am I the only one not enamored with Dwayne Harris?

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I like Harris a good bit. He isn't flat out fast, but he's quick and he is very strong for his size. I think his strength surprised a lot of DB's last year. It is his strong hands that help make him a very reliable catcher who snatches the ball instead of cradling it.

That strength and quickness is what makes him a very good slot WR, IMO.

He's tough too. He never hesitates to go across the middle or on punt returns.

All in all, he looks like he was a really good late round pick. Pretty much the anti Ogletree. He should've been playing over Ogletree for the last two seasons.
 

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I just don't see how you can't be. Everytime the football was in his hands he did good things with it. People get caught up in his measurable. Maybe they aren't the greatest but just like Patrick Crayton I just see this guy always moving the chains and being productive in the punt return game.

And plus he's getting better. Mind you the first year he was a rookie he was cut at one point and put on practice squad. Last season he progressed enough to where he moved into the 3rd receiving spot and never looked back.

If Austin was there when we picked and we picked him? I'd have no problem with that because I believe he can be a potential game changer. But i'm not wasting money on a 3rd receiver or wasting a pick on a receiver who's just as good as Dwayne Harris.

The receiving game is the least concern of this team. Romo threw for nearly 5000 yards. And that was with a injured Miles Austin. The least of this teams concern should the receiving core.
 

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The Natural;5056102 said:
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Yeah I have to agree there. Harris performed and impressed just about every time he saw the field. He got better as the season went on. I am perfectly fine with giving Harris a shot competing for the 3rd receiver.
 

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Galian Beast;5056022 said:
I would hope we're still keeping our options open for third receiver. I'm not sure why everyone came away impressed with Dwayne Harris as if the 3rd receiver job was his. I think it was more about replacing Ogletree, and he was impressive in the return game.

I'd like us to look at Ryan Swope in the 3rd round depending on how things shake out in the 1st and 2nd.

I'd also like to see what we could do with Laurent Robinson if he comes back to play this year.

I also still have pretty high hopes for Danny Coale and Cole Beasley. And when I consider them, I'm a bit more reluctant to suggest going after another receiver.

That being said I think Ryan Swope would be better than all four of them.
I think Harris is a great #4 WR with the potential to be a very good #3 WR. I don't really see him becoming a true #2 WR.
 

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Idgit;5056030 said:
All Harris did was deliver when he got his reps. He deserves the shot to keep it up.

But you don't pass over a better player because you have Dwayne Harris on your roster. If you think you can improve the position group, especially with an outside speed guy, you do it.

That is my take as well.
I really like Harris, but know we must keep the blinders off.

He's a real solid player who does everything he's asked to do (WR, return punts, return kicks, good blocker, make ST tackles). He does a lot....so just a great type of player to have around.
He is certainly better than the round he was drafted in...so any of that "he was drafted in the 6th round for a reason" is short-sighted, imo. Once someone is in the league a year or two, you have to throw that garbage out.

But let's not get carried away. The kid has his limitations.

I really want him to get a shot this year. He always seems to come up with a big play in big situations....when given a chance to do so.
 

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I think Dallas views Harris as a good Crayton replacement. He produced any time we needed him to last year, and was a very good punt returner.

I don't think any of us view him as an everyday starter, but what is there not to like about what he did last year?
 

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Muhast;5056471 said:
I think Dallas views Harris as a good Crayton replacement. He produced any time we needed him to last year, and was a very good punt returner.

I don't think any of us view him as an everyday starter, but what is there not to like about what he did last year?

I just haven't seen anything from him not to say he can't be a everyday starter.

The guy was in his 2nd year and 1st year of actually getting decent reps. I could see if he was a 3rd or 4 year pro like Ogletree but he's a relatively young football player who shows flashes.

The reason why people don't see him as a "everyday starter" is because he doesn't have 4.3 speed but Ogletree did but didn't make nearly the plays Harris has.
 

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rocyaice;5056478 said:
I just haven't seen anything from him not to say he can't be a everyday starter.

The guy was in his 2nd year and 1st year of actually getting decent reps. I could see if he was a 3rd or 4 year pro like Ogletree but he's a relatively young football player who shows flashes.

The reason why people don't see him as a "everyday starter" is because he doesn't have 4.3 speed but Ogletree did but didn't make nearly the plays Harris has.


While it's nice to have burners. I look at Harris and would love to see if he can develop into an Anquan Boldin for us.
 

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I think Dwayne is a better version of Patrick Crayton and he will continue to develope good chemistry with Romo. Another intermediate threat like Witten to go along with our deep threats.
 

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Harris has grown on me.

I like the way he seems to be tough to get to the ground and he also has made the most of his chances.

Honestly, if Robinson wants to come back for a good price he's about the only way I'd consider not letting the young guys battle it out.

Part of developing a #3 WR has to include actually letting one of these young guys on the field at some point.

It's not like you can just pray to have someone fall into your lap every time you need it.
 

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HoustonFrog;5056190 said:
Here is what I liked about Harris last year

a) took advantage of opportunities

b) caught the ball..didn't see a ton of drops

c) didn't see a lot of mental lapses

d) was used as a guy we could move around throw quick hitches to and let him run

e) toughness and enthusiasm

Maybe I was just looking for slivers of goodness from the team last year but I thought he showed a lot. THAT being said, I'd still upgrade if there is a guy who is there that you think improves our options.

absolutely,
Harris was finally that player that took advantage of a wide open position on this team, role.

JGs been trying to find that slot weapon for his scheme, and Laurent Robinson is a prime example of how a certain type of WR can exploit in that role in JGs scheme.

He likes to have TEs that can move around, like he has done with Witten in motion and out of the backfield and Hannah is a guy that could take the next step as well, in that role, and cut into Harris' snaps.. Im just saying that TE - Wr are interchangeable as that 3 as far as JGs concerned, just been tricky finding the right ones, but this team is deeper there than most would think.
 

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Hoofbite;5056524 said:
Harris has grown on me.

I like the way he seems to be tough to get to the ground and he also has made the most of his chances.

Honestly, if Robinson wants to come back for a good price he's about the only way I'd consider not letting the young guys battle it out.

Part of developing a #3 WR has to include actually letting one of these young guys on the field at some point.

It's not like you can just pray to have someone fall into your lap every time you need it.



didnt Robinson get some concussions recently? I dont know about him again, I think id rather take my chance with Harris, I know hes not the fastest, but something about his strength screams he wont fumble the ball as much either. Some of the fast guys scare me because they seem prone to fumble the ball.
 

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Typhus;5056558 said:
absolutely,
Harris was finally that player that took advantage of a wide open position on this team, role.

JGs been trying to find that slot weapon for his scheme, and Laurent Robinson is a prime example of how a certain type of WR can exploit in that role in JGs scheme.

He likes to have TEs that can move around, like he has done with Witten in motion and out of the backfield and Hannah is a guy that could take the next step as well, in that role, and cut into Harris' snaps.. Im just saying that TE - Wr are interchangeable as that 3 as far as JGs concerned, just been tricky finding the right ones, but this team is deeper there than most would think.



i also hope we see more of Hanna, i liked what i saw from him.
 

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I like Harris starting as a 3rd receiver and returner better than several of our players starting on the offensive and defensive line, and definitely better than McCray starting at safety; I don't know if we can depend on Church. I recall when Rodney Peete had an achilles injury, sat out for a year, then re-injured it the first time he tried to play on it the following year. I know achilles surgical techniques have improved, but I still worry about a player who has that problem.

We need a running back who can pick up blitzes if Felix isn't coming back. But, we also don't know the score with Miles Austin's hamstring issues. I like Miles at number 2 if he is healthy, although he really does need to remember to catch the ball before trying to spin around and run with it.

I think if we do draft a receiver high, it will have more to do with the concern that Miles isn't healthy enough to depend on him at number 2 more than Harris being inadequate to the task at number 3.
 

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DFWJC;5056464 said:
That is my take as well.
I really like Harris, but know we must keep the blinders off.

He's a real solid player who does everything he's asked to do (WR, return punts, return kicks, good blocker, make ST tackles). He does a lot....so just a great type of player to have around.
He is certainly better than the round he was drafted in...so any of that "he was drafted in the 6th round for a reason" is short-sighted, imo. Once someone is in the league a year or two, you have to throw that garbage out.

But let's not get carried away. The kid has his limitations.

I really want him to get a shot this year. He always seems to come up with a big play in big situations....when given a chance to do so.

To me he reminds me a bit of Kelvin Martin. He is a role player as a slot WR and a return man. His limitations is he will never be the prime WR but teams need role players who excell at the task they are being given.
 

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CowboyStar88;5056026 said:
Not a chance I would consider Beasley over Harris ever. Harris has that no quit attitude where I question Beasley heart and his size is still a question mark. If Beasley is somehow someway starting over Harris there is something seriously wrong with JG and the FO

Comparing Beasley to Harris is like comparing Tyrion Lannister to Jamie Lannister . It depends on what you need done.
 

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fortdick;5056758 said:
Comparing Beasley to Harris is like comparing Tyrion Lannister to Jamie Lannister . It depends on what you need done.
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Was that on purpose?:lmao2:
 

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Yes Harris is still an unknown but he came through every time he was asked to play. Can't ask much more than that. I definitely want us to get this kid more involved. Good things seem to happen when he gets the ball.

And Beasley over Harris right now? No way! Not even close. Seems Dallas is like a lot of teams, trying to find that undersized slot guy who can replicate Welker. Just not really going to be able to duplicate that easy. Mainly, because Welker got to work with Brady in that system that was perfected for years and years.
 

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Blackspider214;5056770 said:
Yes Harris is still an unknown but he came through every time he was asked to play. Can't ask much more than that. I definitely want us to get this kid more involved. Good things seem to happen when he gets the ball.

And Beasley over Harris right now? No way! Not even close. Seems Dallas is like a lot of teams, trying to find that undersized slot guy who can replicate Welker. Just not really going to be able to duplicate that easy. Mainly, because Welker got to work with Brady in that system that was perfected for years and years.

I strongly believe that Beasley has more upside than Harris. He's development has certainly been quicker than that of Harris'. Looking forward to what he and Coale can do in their 2nd year. I'm not writing off Harris either. I think we have a lot of young players who have the ability to really step it up for Tony this year. I'm really disappointed we wasted so much time trying to develop Ogletree, when we could have been developing these other guys. We definitely spent at least one more year on Ogletree than was warranted.

I would definitely draft a WR and let that rookie compete with Harris, Beasley, and Coale. That sounds like a fairly deep receiving corps to me. I think it's been a while since I liked all the skill players on our offense. There were always players that were just wastes like Bennett, Barber, Ogletree, Williams. I really think that if we can solidify this offensive line, we'll have something pretty special.

I'm not completely enamored with the idea of drafting a receiving tight end. I'm more interested in possibly getting a tight end late, like Nick Kasa. If we could get him as late as the 6th, I would be pretty happy about it.
 
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