An Elite defense with Dak could be enough

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Doomsday101 said:
Then your version of elite and mine are quite different. When your defensive unit over a period of time is a top ranked defense that is elite. You produce 1 season of excellent that is not elite. Having said that I would consider the Bears and Raven elite since they were ranked as top defense more than 1 season. So where the pats
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Are you saying you can't see the difference between the 2000s Ravens and any of those Pats defenses?
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
Are you saying you can't see the difference between the 2000s Ravens and any of those Pats defenses?
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I think Ravens were and excellent defense no doubt. if you wanted to rate the best defense I would say they ranked right up there with the best but the Pats defense played as big of a role in the Pats success. I know you seem to think Brady did it alone and that is so far from the truth. As for Dak, yes I want to see Dallas put out a defense that can stop opponents and put the ball back into the hands of the offense and I don't think Dak needs a Ravens defense to do that or a 85 Bears to do that.
 
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Doomsday101 said:
I think Ravens were and excellent defense no doubt. if you wanted to rate the best defense I would say they ranked right up there with the best but the Pats defense played as big of a role in the Pats success. I know you seem to think Brady did it alone and that is so far from the truth. As for Dak, yes I want to see Dallas put out a defense that can stop opponents and put the ball back into the hands of the offense and I don't think Dak needs a Ravens defense to do that or a 85 Bears to do that.
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I believe the defense will only be considered "good enough" if we win a Championship with Dak at QB.

Every failed season will be because the defense wasn't good enough.

I'm seeing that pattern forming.
 
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Doomsday101 said:
I think Ravens were and excellent defense no doubt. if you wanted to rate the best defense I would say they ranked right up there with the best but the Pats defense played as big of a role in the Pats success. I know you seem to think Brady did it alone and that is so far from the truth. As for Dak, yes I want to see Dallas put out a defense that can stop opponents and put the ball back into the hands of the offense and I don't think Dak needs a Ravens defense to do that or a 85 Bears to do that.
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What metric or metrics do you consider most important when judging whether a defense is great or not?
 
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nalam said:
Simple 2000 Ravens won SB with Dilfer, 2020 Bucs with Goat ( old Goat but still )
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That's a HUGE difference, but still only one of the many differences.

The 2000 Ravens are historically elite.

The 2020 Bucs are just a great defense.

There's levels to things.
 
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Diehardblues said:
You homers only fuel the vitriol from trolls. Just like in Romo days. Tough to tell which is worse sometimes .

Elite is HOF caliber.
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Guess I'll always be a Cowboys Homer. That's just the way it is. I have to go with what they put out there on the field. Don't have a choice. I don't coach them, and I don't pay them. I just watch them.
 
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Nexx said:
They held them under there scoring average from the regular season. Unfortunately our offense only scored 17 points.
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Dak scored 14 out of those 17 points.

The problem was clearly our Oline and RBs unable to contribute in the running game. But so many lazily blamed Dak.
 

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Diehardblues said:
The one thing the Cowboys have missed this era . Or shouid I say the biggest thing they’ve missed is building a top 5 caliber Elite defense .

Some fans forget even with HOF QB’s like Roger and Troy we had top caliber defenses . Doomsday was our motto.

But in this Cap era it’s difficult to build both . Most either have an Elite QB or Elite Defense . The Cowboys have not had either this era.
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To be fair if most starting quarterbacks in the NFL had an elite defense then it could be enough
 
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Diehardblues said:
The one thing the Cowboys have missed this era . Or shouid I say the biggest thing they’ve missed is building a top 5 caliber Elite defense .

Some fans forget even with HOF QB’s like Roger and Troy we had top caliber defenses . Doomsday was our motto.

But in this Cap era it’s difficult to build both . Most either have an Elite QB or Elite Defense . The Cowboys have not had either this era.
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Well who knows.

What we do know is that even an average defense is too much to handle for him.
 
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Diehardblues said:
Overall our offense could be enough if we had an Elite defense.
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Overall our ever improving defense could be enough if we had an Elite offense……right now neither is elite nor scares any coordinators
 
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If you have a top 10ish QB, the blue print should be to protect him and build an elite defense around a dominant front 7.

We’ve neglected that blueprint for 16 years now
 
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