An informal survey: Is Romo closer to Aikman or to White?

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xwalker;5008604 said:
I think Romo would have been really really good playing with Aikman's OLine and with Emmitt and that running game.

I can never agree with these comments. Aikman was all about accuracy and putting the ball in spots. That is how their offense was run. Just giving a guy things doesn't mean he will succeed. If that was the case David Carr would still have a shot somewhere.

That being said, I like Romo a lot but he still isn't close to either guy. White went to 3 NFC Championship games. I want to see how his career plays out first.
 

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HoosierCowboy;5008949 said:
both White and Aikman played on better teams--how would either White or Aikman do on last year's Cowboys?


In my dark heart of hearts I would say that both Aikman and White would have gotten us -- somehow -- into the playoffs in that last game. And both would have achieved at least a 9-7 season.
 

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Nav22;5008956 said:
Aikman already admitted Romo's better than he was.

It's called humility. Aikman was so good that he can say these kind of things. If Romo is better than Aikman was, then Murray is better than Emmett and Dez is already better than Irvin.

But we know that is not the case, huh?

But put Romo on Aikman's best teams and I half no dout Tony could reach the Super Bowl.
 

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This is a long but good read about A-Rod > http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/50877666/ns/sports-baseball/

What Romo has in common with A-Rod
  • came on board with high (championship) expectations
  • then choked
  • maginified by being on a high-profile team
  • has really good personal stats until the playoffs

What Romo does NOT have in common with A-Rod
  • he gets along with his teamates
  • he's just likeable in general - not a jerk
  • not smug or priviliged
  • no trouble with PEDs, other drugs, or the law
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5009141 said:
It's called humility. Aikman was so good that he can say these kind of things. If Romo is better than Aikman was, then Murray is better than Emmett and Dez is already better than Irvin.

But we know that is not the case, huh?

Try making sense next time. Those other guys have nothing to do with this discussion and your analogy is completely baseless.

"Humility"? You're only assuming Troy was being humble because his opinion is one that you don't want him to have. :rolleyes:
 

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SDCowboy85;5008689 said:
People always talk about Aikmans accuracy and lack of mistakes. Romo consistently has a higher completion % behind an oline that has him running for his life and throwing to WR's that sometimes don't know their routes. Romo and Aikman also have similar turnover numbers with Romo throwing much more. I'm not saying Romo is better than Aikman but Romo's accuracy is wildly underrated and his turnovers overstated (often to the tune of him being the only QB in the league who makes mistakes).

Also the rules favor the WR today. Db's use to mug the WR, you know this. I think had Aikman played in this era of football he would have an insane completion %. It's amazing the completion % he did have especially with Irvin lining up telling the DB what route he was running.
 

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CowboyStar88;5009232 said:
Also the rules favor the WR today. Db's use to mug the WR, you know this. I think had Aikman played in this era of football he would have an insane completion %. It's amazing the completion % he did have especially with Irvin lining up telling the DB what route he was running.
There is no doubt the game has changed some. But the fact Romo's % is as high as it it, while always under duress, and some receivers with a possibly shaky understanding of the playbook, is still quite impressive in its own right.
 

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hmm, locate a QB who put up numbers and could only manage 1 playoff victory. Compare him to that guy.

No comparison with Elway, who had gone to Super Bowls prior to Shanahan.
 

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SDCowboy85;5009249 said:
There is no doubt the game has changed some. But the fact Romo's % is as high as it it, while always under duress, and some receivers with a possibly shaky understanding of the playbook, is still quite impressive in its own right.

No doubt I am not taking anything way from what he has done. I think he is talented, but I am worried that at 33 those skills are starting to erode. He needs the team to be better period or he isn't going to have those wins show up when they need to show up. Hopefully this year he can pull even with his playoff record.
 

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CowboyStar88;5009255 said:
No doubt I am not taking anything way from what he has done. I think he is talented, but I am worried that at 33 those skills are starting to erode.

I haven't seen any signs of his skills eroding but his confidence continues to erode that's the biggest concern with him.
 

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Top 10 Seasons in Passer Rating
Staubach 7 (1971, 1973, 1975-79)
Meredith 6 (1962-63, 1965-68)
Aikman 6 (1991-1995, 1998)
Romo 6 (2006-09, 2011-12)
White 5 (1980-83, 85)

Top 5 Seasons in Passer Rating
Staubach 5 (1971, 1973, 1977-79)
Aikman 4 (1992-95)
Meredith 3 (1962, 1966, 1968)
Romo 3 (2006-07, 2011)
White 2 (1981-82)

Average Rank in 5 Best Seasons
Staubach 1st
Aikman 4th
Meredith 5th
Romo 6th
White 7th

Keeping in mind that Meredith played in a much smaller league.
 

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Clove;5009253 said:
hmm, locate a QB who put up numbers and could only manage 1 playoff victory. Compare him to that guy.

No comparison with Elway, who had gone to Super Bowls prior to Shanahan.

Football's a team sport. Ask Archie Manning.
 

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The people who lay the 1 playoff win at Romo's feet are absurd. I suppose they are big Jerry Jones fans and think he is just doing a swell job at putting a competent team together.

The only reason anyone thinks Romo should have more than 1 playoff win is well...Romo. Romo has masked a lot of ills, but not good enough to overcome an incompetent owner/gm.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5008572 said:
I say he be closer to White because of the playoff deficit.
But if compared to White, he was 5-5 in playoff games and our great present-day QB is 1-3.
And let us not forget that White was one of the finest Cowboy punters in their franshise history, an added bonus.
And, on the cuspidor of a long-term deal from Romo, I half to ask jerra, is this what you really want? Is this in the best interest of the team? The fans? Your brand?

A QB who is brilliant on the field, yet reverts to plays that we discuss in hushed tones all offseason may be one who doesn't necessarily merit a signing beyond 2 years. Remember, in two years he'll be pushingd 35.

Closer to White? Yes. But not as productive post-season.

Closer to Craig Morton, but without the arm.
 

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Morton had a cannon and the size no doubt. He actually had a very good couple of yrs with the Broncos. If not for the bum shoulder when he took over for Dandy Don he may have been something. His 1st 5 or so games starting for us were actually very good, its when he hurt his shoulder that things started to go downhill for him.
 

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Bowdown27;5008674 said:
Danny white by far. Troy was so accurate and didn't make boneheaded mistakes. Obviously because we ran 1000 times a game with emmitt lol

This is the key, in my opinion. If we had a better run game, a ton of pressure would be weighted off of Romo and that would allow the passing game to be more productive. You can see the differences when the run game is going good with Murray. Just a little inconsistent, unlike those '90 teams.
 

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Nav22;5009210 said:
Try making sense next time. Those other guys have nothing to do with this discussion and your analogy is completely baseless.

"Humility"? You're only assuming Troy was being humble because his opinion is one that you don't want him to have. :rolleyes:


Well, Mr. Negativity took a sour pill.
It's also called opinon, or howevr you spell it. I never brought those other guys, OK, Mr. Negativity?
And anyway what be analogy? Is it something bad?
And I called it humility because no one in his or her or its right mind would say that is a fact. Romo might be beter than White but not better than Aikman.

And quit rolling your eyes. They is gonna stay that whey, didn't your elders tell you that several years ago when you was a kid? Huh?

Half a nice day.
 

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Nav22;5009210 said:
Try making sense next time. Those other guys have nothing to do with this discussion and your analogy is completely baseless.

"Humility"? You're only assuming Troy was being humble because his opinion is one that you don't want him to have. :rolleyes:

Oh, those other guys. I thot you means the other QB mensioned. I just brought Emmett and Irvin into the discussion to point out how odd that thot be: that Romo is beter than Aikman right now.

So gimme a break, Mr. Negativity. I half feelings too. Not real feelings but ya know, words can hurt.
 
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