An informal survey: Is Romo closer to Aikman or to White?

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All these comparisons to great QBs. So will Tony, after more years, be in the HOF? Would he be in the HOF if he retired today?
I don't think he'll ever even whiff the HOF.
 

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Chocolate Lab;5010097 said:
Closer to Danny. Love Romo, but he's not even close to Aikman.


Have to agree with this.

Yes, Romo isnt playing with the same talent, but he is playing in an era much more conducive to throwing the ball all over the place. The one thing about that last Washington game was Romo seemed scattered. His demeanor on the sideline was kind of frazzled, and my thinking is the moment is too big for him or he simply tries to do too much because he has too.

Aikman elevated his game in January. Take a look at the 92 NFC Title Game, SB XXVII, either of the Green Bay playoff games in '94 or '95 or hell, the '94 Title game loss to the Niners.

Yes, Troy had a ton of help, but he was appreciably better when the games mattered most - playoff time, winning time.
 

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rags747;5010164 said:
Loved Troy but not quite sure he wins that 2007 game. Anyone remember that 2nd half where our OL just layed down and Tuck and Co just pinned their ears back and took over the game? Romo did not have a chance and I don't think Aikman would have either. Romo did make some plays in that 2nd half that should have won that game but one again his team failed him.

Come to think of it... Can anyone recall one game where the defense absolutely won the game for us or where the offense besides Romo won the game for us?
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Well, we know that Romo DID throw a perfect ball to Crayton for the game-winning score, only to see him cut his route short.

I believe Troy would have made a perfect pass too.:D

What we would hope is that the game would not have come down to that and Troy would have played better than Tony did earlier in the game.
Who knows though. The Giants dline was in high gear that day and laying the wood on Romo. It's not like Troy would have not been hit as much or more.
 

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Apollo Creed;5010784 said:
This deserves its own thread IMO.

By just using the eye test impossible to deny that Romo's supporting cast over the years has been suspect - but this is just straight up irrefutable.

Great job Percy, you continue to be one of the reasons I keep coming to CZ. Post more and create more threads, your great research tends to get lost in a lot of nonsensical banter these days.
Thanks AC. I hope to post some new stuff when I get time in a couple of weeks or so.

Until then, it'll be mostly recycled material. ;)
 

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xwalker;5008604 said:
I think Romo would have been really really good playing with Aikman's OLine and with Emmitt and that running game.

And that defense. Don't forget the defense. But I agree, if Romo played with Aikman's teams, he'd have multiple SB trophies too. No doubt in my mind.
 

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cowboys2233;5010889 said:
And that defense. Don't forget the defense. But I agree, if Romo played with Aikman's teams, he'd have multiple SB trophies too. No doubt in my mind.

I bet Tony would feel so good if he read your post. Thx on his behalf. :)
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5008572 said:
I say he be closer to White because of the playoff deficit.
But if compared to White, he was 5-5 in playoff games and our great present-day QB is 1-3.
And let us not forget that White was one of the finest Cowboy punters in their franshise history, an added bonus.
And, on the cuspidor of a long-term deal from Romo, I half to ask jerra, is this what you really want? Is this in the best interest of the team? The fans? Your brand?

A QB who is brilliant on the field, yet reverts to plays that we discuss in hushed tones all offseason may be one who doesn't necessarily merit a signing beyond 2 years. Remember, in two years he'll be pushingd 35.

Closer to White? Yes. But not as productive post-season.

Is an extension for Romo in the best interest of the team?

Well Aikman said we would win no more than 3 games without Romo, so I would think an extension would be in the best interest of the team. In fact, even the Romo haters admit that there is currently no QB we can get that would be better, their argument is that we should get rid of Romo so we can tank and get the first pick so we can then draft Johnny football.

So even the haters agree that we would suck without Romo, they just wouldnt mind it.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5010891 said:
I bet Tony would feel so good if he read your post. Thx on his behalf. :)

Anything I can do to inject a little happiness into Tony's life!
 

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gbrittain;5009396 said:
The people who lay the 1 playoff win at Romo's feet are absurd. I suppose they are big Jerry Jones fans and think he is just doing a swell job at putting a competent team together.

The only reason anyone thinks Romo should have more than 1 playoff win is well...Romo. Romo has masked a lot of ills, but not good enough to overcome an incompetent owner/gm.

Yea, its hard to take these type of threads seriously when Jerry says we dont need to upgrade the oline because Romo is mobile.

Yea, its all Romo's fault we dont have more than 1 playoff win.:rolleyes:
 

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Beast_from_East;5010892 said:
Is an extension for Romo in the best interest of the team?

Well Aikman said we would win no more than 3 games without Romo, so I would think an extension would be in the best interest of the team. In fact, even the Romo haters admit that there is currently no QB we can get that would be better, their argument is that we should get rid of Romo so we can tank and get the first pick so we can then draft Johnny football.

So even the haters agree that we would suck without Romo, they just wouldnt mind it.

Aikman is correct about the 3 games. Heck with Romo we half won 8 games last season and the previous one. Romo is a goog QB.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5010906 said:
Aikman is correct about the 3 games. Heck with Romo we half won 8 games last season and the previous one. Romo is a goog QB.

I agree with you, he is a dam good QB.


Apparently the team thinks so too, I just listened to the podcast of Cowboys Break on DallasCowboys.com and Nick Eatman said he is hearing an extension in the $17 million a year range for Romo.

The deal should get done very soon, at least that was the impression I got that they needed to get it done to be under the cap by the March 12th start date of free agency.
 

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Beast_from_East;5010914 said:
I agree with you, he is a dam good QB.


Apparently the team thinks so too, I just listened to the podcast of Cowboys Break on DallasCowboys.com and Nick Eatman said he is hearing an extension in the $17 million a year range for Romo.

The deal should get done very soon, at least that was the impression I got that they needed to get it done to be under the cap by the March 12th start date of free agency.

With Romo I am at ease. At least, we can only hope for the best, beast from the East.
 

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Beast_from_East;5010914 said:
I agree with you, he is a dam good QB.


Apparently the team thinks so too, I just listened to the podcast of Cowboys Break on DallasCowboys.com and Nick Eatman said he is hearing an extension in the $17 million a year range for Romo.

The deal should get done very soon, at least that was the impression I got that they needed to get it done to be under the cap by the March 12th start date of free agency.

Good, he deserves it. $17 million per year is not bad for a top-five QB in the league, which is exactly what Romo is. Play Flacco $22+ million a year or whatever the heck the price tag is these days, Romo is better.
 

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Phoenix;5008652 said:
I think the more accurate question here is, Is Romo closer to White or, say, Jeff George? :)

Or Ryan Leaf!
 

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DMAC;5010922 said:
Or Ryan Leaf!

That is extreme.
Those who do not like Romo as our QB should show more subtlety, as in "I think Romo is a good QB." Or "If I had a college team, I'd want Romo to lead it."
Or "Romo would certainly be among those considered as good QBs."
And, lastly, "Romo can throw as well as the best of them in Madden NFL" "Or he's a lot better than Leaf!"
 

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xwalker;5008604 said:
I think Romo would have been really really good playing with Aikman's OLine and with Emmitt and that running game.

I disagree. Because Romo is a vicinity passer and Aikman was a surgeon.

Just imagine when Aikman threw the slant how it would hit Irvin or Harper right in the hands.

Now recall all the seasons of Romo when they have tried to use that slant and seen the ball behind the receiver, too far in front, way too high - Roy Williams can atest to this.

The bread and butter play that was automatic for Aikman on third and 4 or 5 would be a complete disaster for Romo.

Romo has other skill sets. Moving to open spaces and allowing the play to develop and finding receivers.

But he couldn't carry the tool kit for Aikman when it came to pin point accuracy. Which was the hallmark of that offense.

Not saying Romo isn't a quality quarterback. Because if I don't that starts a fight with people trying to tell me what I think.

But there have been few if any passers as accurate under thirty-five yards as Aikman. And in that timing based offense, Romo would struggle.
 

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Disagree that Romo is a vicinity qb and have seen him throw many slants right on the money.
 

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rags747;5010990 said:
Disagree that Romo is a vicinity qb and have seen him throw many slants right on the money.

Romo is very accurate.

Romo is not nearly as accurate as Aikman in his prime, however.
That dude had 2-3 sin a row sometimes where the ball never touched the turf.
 

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What would you attribute Romo's completion % to, softer defense?
 

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TwoDeep3;5010956 said:
I disagree. Because Romo is a vicinity passer and Aikman was a surgeon.

Just imagine when Aikman threw the slant how it would hit Irvin or Harper right in the hands.

Now recall all the seasons of Romo when they have tried to use that slant and seen the ball behind the receiver, too far in front, way too high - Roy Williams can atest to this.

The bread and butter play that was automatic for Aikman on third and 4 or 5 would be a complete disaster for Romo.

Romo has other skill sets. Moving to open spaces and allowing the play to develop and finding receivers.

But he couldn't carry the tool kit for Aikman when it came to pin point accuracy. Which was the hallmark of that offense.

Not saying Romo isn't a quality quarterback. Because if I don't that starts a fight with people trying to tell me what I think.

But there have been few if any passers as accurate under thirty-five yards as Aikman. And in that timing based offense, Romo would struggle.

I don't know what a "vicinity passer" means?

Aikman threw to a spot on the field because he knew his receivers would be there...Romo has to tell his receivers where the hell to line up!

Aikman had protection most of the time, Romo does not most of the time.

Aikman had the NLF's rushing leader, Romo does not.

And, Roy Williams? Really? That dude was a mistake from the get go!

And, what about the defense that Aikman had during his time with the Cowboys? You remember them?

If Romo had a team that Aikman had, he would have already won a SB!

Come on, bro!

As Aikman would say, "Get real...."
 
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