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Gameover;5011260 said:I don't think he's close to either one.Both outclass Romo by a mile.
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Gameover;5011260 said:I don't think he's close to either one.Both outclass Romo by a mile.
Gameover;5011260 said:I don't think he's close to either one.Both outclass Romo by a mile.
There's an easy way around that, using rankings instead of raw numbers.KJJ;5011769 said:The only thing Romo has going for him in this argument is that he's been statically better than any QB in team history. This is all due to him playing in a pass happy era where just about every starting QB in the NFL is statistically better then their predecessors.
percyhoward;5011807 said:There's an easy way around that, using rankings instead of raw numbers.
Top 10 Seasons in Passer Rating
Aikman 6 (1991-1995, 1998)
Romo 6 (2006-09, 2011-12)
White 5 (1980-83, 85)
Top 5 Seasons in Passer Rating
Aikman 4 (1992-95)
Romo 3 (2006-07, 2011)
White 2 (1981-82)
Average Rank in 5 Best Seasons
Aikman 4th
Romo 6th
White 7th
Zordon;5011910 said:Is this how low we've gone as fans that we comparing Romo (a good player) to a legend, an icon, a champion in Aikman?
KJJ;5011926 said:It's easy for anyone to say that if you put Romo on the great 90's teams that he could have also led those teams to championships. FANS make that claim all the time but the problem with the theory is that Romo has yet to show he can avoid turnovers and make the big throw when it's been down to do or die. Based on Aikman's history in elimination games he wouldn't have turned the ball over vs Washington in the final 3 1/2 minutes with the game on the line. Could Romo have made the play to Harper that Aikman made in the 92 NFC title game vs SF in the final 4 minutes that sealed the win for the Cowboys? It's very easy to say yes but when faced in similar situations Romo has made the big mistake. Could Romo throw 4 TD passes in a SB with zero turnovers?
Again it's very easy for anyone to say yes but based on Romo's history of only one playoff win with 12 turnovers and 8 TD passes in 7 elimination games there's no facts to support he could. Just to reach those 3 SB's Aikman had to make some big plays along the way in critical situations. During the regular season Romo has shown he can play as good as any QB the Cowboys have had but in the games that have mattered most he hasn't played near as well Aikman and not even as well as Danny White.
KJJ;5011926 said:It's easy for anyone to say that if you put Romo on the great 90's teams that he could have also led those teams to championships. FANS make that claim all the time but the problem with the theory is that Romo has yet to show he can avoid turnovers and make the big throw when it's been down to do or die. Based on Aikman's history in elimination games he wouldn't have turned the ball over vs Washington in the final 3 1/2 minutes with the game on the line. Could Romo have made the play to Harper that Aikman made in the 92 NFC title game vs SF in the final 4 minutes that sealed the win for the Cowboys? It's very easy to say yes but when faced in similar situations Romo has made the big mistake. Could Romo throw 4 TD passes in a SB with zero turnovers?
Again it's very easy for anyone to say yes but based on Romo's history of only one playoff win with 12 turnovers and 8 TD passes in 7 elimination games there's no facts to support he could. Just to reach those 3 SB's Aikman had to make some big plays along the way in critical situations. During the regular season Romo has shown he can play as good as any QB the Cowboys have had but in the games that have mattered most he hasn't played near as well Aikman and not even as well as Danny White.
Muhast;5011976 said:Against buffalo the second tine around in 93 aikman threw for 207 yards 0tds and 1int. I feel pretty confident romo could have won that sb.
KJJ;5012026 said:To reach that SB Romo first would have had to lead the Cowboys to the playoffs that season and win 2 playoff games vs a couple of future HOF QB's. In that SB vs Buffalo he would have had to do what he's never done in 7 elimination games and that's lead the Cowboys from behind. Romo has shown that if you give him a running game and a solid defense he can play very efficiently but he hasn't played well in come from behind situations in elimination games especially on the road.
Aikman only suffered 6 int's during the 93 regular season. It's not just the turnovers with Romo that's been the issue it's been the timing of some of them. A team can recover from an early turnover but not those that come when they're behind with only a few minutes to play. Aikman handled big game pressure extremely well during his career and Romo hasn't. Anyone who tries to argue that is wasting their time.
gbrittain;5011942 said:It's all hypothetial and based on that I have to give the edge to Aikman because that is a known quantity.
However, I can see that Aikman did not perform like an elite QB when his talent was not elite.
How did Troy do in Carolina in 96? Arizona 97? Minnesota 98?
Like many have pointed out it is silly to compare Tony to Troy, and it is just as silly to compare the team success the Cowboys had during Troy's tenure to the team success Tony has had during this version of the Cowboys.
If I had to put my life savings on Tony winning a Super Bowl with the 90s Cowboys or Troy winning a Super Bowl with this version of the Cowboys there is no question what choice I would make. I may be wrong, but at least given the chance I would put my money where my mouth is. All I can say is that is my honest belief...I could be wrong.
Super_Kazuya;5012036 said:Do you get paid $20 every time you say "elimination game"? Even the original post from this thread cited White's PLAYOFF game performance, not some madeup fantasy game that only Romo has ever played in. And I see you never answered the question about how Aikman did in the playoffs once the Cowboys started to lose key players through attrition and age, when they needed more from Aikman than bus driving and handing off to the greatest of all time. How DID Troy do in Carolina in 96? Arizona 97? Minnesota 98? And Aikman sucked on the road in the playoffs too.
KJJ;5012072 said:You mean to tell me after the discussion we had several weeks ago you still haven't figured out what an elimination game is? White's playoff game performances were ELIMINATION games. I gave you several links from others in the know who used the term "elimination game" when referring to Romo's 1-6 do or die record but you continue to claim it's just a figment of my imagination. :laugh2:
KJJ;5012072 said:As for the question about Aikman I answered it he was in decline along with the team by 96.
From 91-95 Aikman was 2-2 on the road during the playoffs which included an NFC championship win. He didn't have to play many playoff games on the road when the team was winning SB's due to having home field advantage throughout. The road playoff losses started to mount as he and the team began to decline. Could Romo have even led those fading teams to the playoffs? By 96 the Cowboys day had come and gone due to age and free agency.
KJJ;5012026 said:To reach that SB Romo first would have had to lead the Cowboys to the playoffs that season and win 2 playoff games vs a couple of future HOF QB's. In that SB vs Buffalo he would have had to do what he's never done in 7 elimination games and that's lead the Cowboys from behind. Romo has shown that if you give him a running game and a solid defense he can play very efficiently but he hasn't played well in come from behind situations in elimination games especially on the road.
Aikman only suffered 6 int's during the 93 regular season. It's not just the turnovers with Romo that's been the issue it's been the timing of some of them. A team can recover from an early turnover but not those that come when they're behind with only a few minutes to play. Aikman handled big game pressure extremely well during his career and Romo hasn't. Anyone who tries to argue that is wasting their time.