An Objective opinion: Concerned about Romo

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Sarge;2279740 said:
Ranking on Romo for his redzone blunders beats the hell out of watching Quincy Carter taking the snaps - keep it in perspective . . .

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...
 

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zrinkill;2279750 said:
Spoken like the fan of another team.

Sounds like the terms New York fans use.

Well the NY sports fan is by far the sharpest , no nonsense fan there is. NY fans DEMAND top flight play and when it doesn't come they will turn on you in a heartbeat.
 

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I love Tony, but his redzone mistakes have people like myself concerned. Its becoming routine now. On the same token, I have faith that Tony will come back from the mistakes and pull some big plays. However, is it too much to ask for Tony to play a little smarter in the redzone so he doesnt always have to come back from an ugly play? I just want for him to get through a freaking game without handing the other team free points and killing our momentum.
 

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There are obviously a few people in this thread who are still wrestling with a few bonehead plays by Romo, that is fine. Romo is creative and does not like to see a play go dead or for nothing. That is what it all boils down to.

If you gave me a choice of a pocket passer or one who makes plays in multiple ways with the occasional chance of error, then I will take the latter 9 out of 10 times. The only time I would take a pocket passer is if it was Aikman with this line. Romo wins games with his creativity IMO.
No way can any average QB win even with this group like Romo DOES.

One more thing, I just can not believe how many so called fans there are that are so gullible and niave to buy into the "media" on other bs talk about Romo not winning a playoff game in two attempts. You present that stat as an argument? for real? ok, lets break it down....

In the seattle playoff game, he was the holder and it was supposed to be a FG, he is not the first for the ball to slip in his fingers setting up for a hold. In that game, the difference between him being the man who botched the FG not winning a playoff game and the man who was MVP was 1/2 yard. Thats it. I never held him accountable for that, he nearly made it happen.
Last year against the Giants, he was even less at fault. The Giants came to win and quite frankly, the correct team won under the circumstances. I was mad at the loss, but the WHOLE team played down in that game. Oh, the int at the end you say. It was 4th and goal at the 20 for God's sake!! No one was open, so he threw it to TG to go up and get it. That int was probably the least of my disgust in that game. It was one of those last gasp type throws in my eyes. We lost plain and simple.

What I want to know is how many other teams lost playoff games the last few years or never made it for that matter? It only makes you hungrier.
 

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Tony Romo: It's good to know that you can win when you've got to grind it out sometimes...Tonight the defense played outstanding...It was one of the better games I've seen out of them in a long time. As a quarterback, it starts to make you feel comfortable to know.............The way that (Packers) were pass rushing, it's easy to just drop back, and run, and make plays, and do stuff all the time...but you've just got to throw the ball away, and go to the next one, and know your defense is playing well, and wait for the chance when the big play happens, then you've got to connect.
Romo's disjointed post game comments sound like he's half-shocked at the defensive performance, and half-regurgitating some sideline advice he probably got from Garrett about playing under control.

It's not so much a matter of the light having to come on for Romo, as it is the defense needing to string together a few games like last night's.
 

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Let me preface this by saying that yes, Romo needs to make better decisions in the red zone-- no question.

But there are two key points that everyone needs to consider:

1. Romo leads his team into the red zone more than any other Cowboy QB in history-- More times into the redzone, more chances for mistakes.

2. Garrett is the most aggressive offensive coordinator I've ever seen lead guide the Cowboy offense. More aggression = more chance for mistakes.

Again, I'm not absolving Romo, but his mistakes have to be looked at within the context of the whole.
 

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RW Hitman;2279905 said:
There are obviously a few people in this thread who are still wrestling with a few bonehead plays by Romo, that is fine. Romo is creative and does not like to see a play go dead or for nothing. That is what it all boils down to.

If you gave me a choice of a pocket passer or one who makes plays in multiple ways with the occasional chance of error, then I will take the latter 9 out of 10 times. The only time I would take a pocket passer is if it was Aikman with this line. Romo wins games with his creativity IMO.
No way can any average QB win even with this group like Romo DOES.

One more thing, I just can not believe how many so called fans there are that are so gullible and niave to buy into the "media" on other bs talk about Romo not winning a playoff game in two attempts. You present that stat as an argument? for real? ok, lets break it down....

In the seattle playoff game, he was the holder and it was supposed to be a FG, he is not the first for the ball to slip in his fingers setting up for a hold. In that game, the difference between him being the man who botched the FG not winning a playoff game and the man who was MVP was 1/2 yard. Thats it. I never held him accountable for that, he nearly made it happen.
Last year against the Giants, he was even less at fault. The Giants came to win and quite frankly, the correct team won under the circumstances. I was mad at the loss, but the WHOLE team played down in that game. Oh, the int at the end you say. It was 4th and goal at the 20 for God's sake!! No one was open, so he threw it to TG to go up and get it. That int was probably the least of my disgust in that game. It was one of those last gasp type throws in my eyes. We lost plain and simple.

What I want to know is how many other teams lost playoff games the last few years or never made it for that matter? It only makes you hungrier.

Nobody's blaming Romo. We're saying carelessness in the red zone can hurt the team, and since he's showing signs of this continued problem, it's something he needs to address.

Nobody with any sense buys the idea that he can't win a playoff game just because he hasn't. But there's no denying that playoff football comes down to a handful of plays. If he eliminates bad red zone decisions and fixes what's basically one of the very few holes in his game, we're in a much better position to win those games than we would be otherwise. I just don't see the point of arguing with that.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2279961 said:
2. Garrett is the most aggressive offensive coordinator I've ever seen lead guide the Cowboy offense. More aggression = more chance for mistakes.
I agree with that point, but in this case I really think both Garrett and Romo were expecting another shootout, and that if they'd known the Packers would only put up 16 points, we run the ball in that situation.
 

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percyhoward;2279952 said:
Romo's disjointed post game comments sound like he's half-shocked at the defensive performance, and half-regurgitating some sideline advice he probably got from Garrett about playing under control.

It's not so much a matter of the light having to come on for Romo, as it is the defense needing to string together a few games like last night's.

he's right - our defense is all names but never steps up like they did last nite
 

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I think Romo has been outstanding for the record and I completely understand that mistakes are part of even the best players game.

However, it is completely acceptable to be critical of Romo on his tendency in the red zone and at times when under dire pressure to throw what appears to be careless picks.

Whether it is caused due to pressure or a cavalier attitude, some of these interceptions could be avoided.

Certainly we all know last night that Witten and TO were much too close. Yet, this does not explain the other times this same thing has happened.

I do think he overcomes these mistakes in the same games and that he is one of the best in the league right now if not the best.

But if he wants to move to an even more impressive level, dominant and consistent, then this part of his game needs to be addressed.

This does not mean he is not allowed a poor game or a fumble if the offensive protections fail him, however, it does mean that he can improve in this area of his game assuming of course that the reason is not simply a confusion of routes ect.

Again, I think overall Romo is outstanding and I am estatic that we finally have found our franchise QB after a decade of looking. His play continues to improve and I believe once he makes these adjustments, he will be practically unstoppable. :)
 

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Darkhound;2278558 said:
Ok. I cannot let myself be blinded over a win vs the Pack. Yes it was a huge win, on the road, and a huge win Vs history.

That being said, I wake up today, and cannot deny the eerie feeling. This weird senstation that our QB is making "too (many) mistakes" and that thanks for the great team around him he gets away with it?

Anyone share the feeling?
Three games, three interceptions
Where is the scrambling QB we used to have?
Is the "Romo" magic, when he was not well known, now well studied by opponets fading away?

Is Romo a TRUE QB that will lead us into post season wins?

This are some of the many questions I cannot deny and ask myself?

Any comments guys?

My perception was that Romo's WRs weren't getting open during most of the first half. Crayton and Owens each dropped a pass that hit them in their hands. To me, Romo is a Hall of Fame QB, with very average receivers, except for Witten, who's fabulous(a Hall of Fame TE).
Despite the win, Owens wasn't really happy, because he never got open the whole game, right?
 

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Well, I guess we will find out what happens vs the Skins.
I will be at that game.

Let's see if ROMO can come outwith no INTs
 

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CaptainQuint;2280670 said:
My perception was that Romo's WRs weren't getting open during most of the first half. Crayton and Owens each dropped a pass that hit them in their hands. To me, Romo is a Hall of Fame QB, with very average receivers, except for Witten, who's fabulous(a Hall of Fame TE).
Despite the win, Owens wasn't really happy, because he never got open the whole game, right?

Romo performed great last year when Owens wasn't in the line-up... Very average receivers? Are you kidding us?
 
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