An Objective opinion: Concerned about Romo

[Darkhound]

The fact is, we had two fumbles in the red zone that ended the game against Seattle two years ago, and Romo's last throw last year against the Giants was a red zone pick. He also missed a wide open TO in the red zone late last year (was that the Philly game, or the Giants playoff loss)? It cost us 14 points against a good Eagle team and cost us again last night. Either of the last two games could have 1st-round bye implications. It's perfectly legitimate to bring the point up as one of the few obvious areas of concern for this young season.

I COMPLETELY share your thoughts!
This is exactly my point.

 

[Don Corleone]

He even said that this is not the print of a Super Bowl Caliber team.

So did he actually explain what the print of a Super Bowl caliber team is? Who resembles such in this young NFL season?

 

[zeromaster]

Even Deion commented on Total Access, brought this concren up about Romo.

He even said that this is not the print of a Super Bowl Caliber team.

Yes, and the TinMan himself flitted from team to team in search of the ever-elusive next ring, so I tend to take his comments with a healthy dose of sodium chloride.

 

[Da Hammer]

My concern with Romo like others pointed out yesterday in the game thread is that seriously it doesnt appear that Romo knows how to throw the ball away. When he had anything he forced it which led to the INT or he threw from the tackle box to where nobody was there causing 2 intentional groundings. he made up for the last one but still come on Romo those are stupid decision u are making! i wish he'd run more when there is nothing there but its like this year he just doesnt want to run anymore and instead force it.

 

[Darkhound]

The fact that I pointed out some of my concerns, does not mean I am right or that I am wrong.

But I would hate to see some of those INT to come back and haunt us.

 

[Don Corleone]

i wish he'd run more when there is nothing there but its like this year he just doesnt want to run anymore and instead force it.

I'm not knocking his game, and I truly love watching him play, but he's got 69 million reasons not to run anymore.

:jackpot:

 

[silver]

me thinks romo will be ok. he's still has that gunslinger mentality that has him throwing int's in the redzone as well as TD's on 3rd and 20. i'll take the good with the bad.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What I really don't like is complainers - it irritates me to no end - we got a lot of them around here - I have known a few in my lifetime - it gets old.

Romo has thrown for 900 yards in three games - has 5 tds I think and that could be 7 if TO's is reviewed and Austin makes a bee line for the pylon - has a 102 rating and his team is 3-0 and has just beaten arguably 2 of the top 5 teams in the league at their place the last 2 weeks!

I am aware of all of this. I have plenty of supporting posts to prove that I am aware of this.

However, these statistical games are not going to last. Historically, without fail, the closer you get the the playoffs, the tighter it gets. We are not going to continue to put up these kinds of numbers because defenses are going to get better as the year progresses. This, again, is how it works. If you want a great statistical QB who tears the record books up, has limited success in the playoffs and champoinship games, played in Green Bay and is reveired by the Press, I have just the QB in mind.

However, if you want a QB who was not nearly as flashy, didn't enjoy nearly the statistical success, was not nearly as appriciated for the way he avoided mistakes, who also played in Green Bay and won 5 championships in 7 years, I can show you that guy too.

Nobody is burning Romo at the stake here. But I do think it's fair to point out certain things in his game that have proven to be detrimental to success.

I'm not saying you have to agree but I am saying that this needs to be corrected before it costs us.

 

[FCBarca]

Knowing "HOW" to throw it away is a ridiculous statement. I am sorry but it is. Each play has its own circumstances. If you make a guy miss and don't have a chance to settle yourself before the next guy comes then you can't throw it away, you have to take the sack. I agree Romo needs to realize that for sure but the grounding plays he had little chance to even get rid of the ball much less get it down field.

If you want a QB that throws the ball away a lot then you don't want Romo period. He did throw one out of the end zone later in the game if that made you feel better.

And I clearly said or meant 'a lot', too, right?

Trying to understand how hard it is for Romo to know how to throw it away when apparently he has time to throw it anyway...If you can release the ball and you have some measure of accuracy, then you should know how to throw 'it away'

 

[BrassCowboy]

I have to say we are spoiled. The guy can outright play ball, yes it may be a little more street ball than Aikan, but he gets it done. Very clutch. I know it may be a little stereotypical to say, but he is alot like Bret Favre. Bret made more interceptions trying to make something happen, but something happened more often than those ints. You obviously see the same in Romo.

As far as him not rollingout as much as he did last year and before, well I think he is trying to become more controlled in his passing. Running with the ball takes time away from looking down the field catching that open man, so it looks to be that he will do that only if need be unlike before where he would do it just out of spite. He is growing as a QB. Should you worry, no as long as he is getting the job done like he is.

 

[Darkhound]

How many of you would feel comfortable in the playoffs if Romo continues to get picked or make mistakes in the Red zone?

 

[newlander]

He presses sometimes no doubt. But someone raised a good point: Romo said in his presser after the game the the defense played great and he just needs to manage the game a little better. Remember, our 'D' hasn't been this good since he's been here. Now that it is, he'll realize he doesn't have to score or force a play (and potentially make a mistake every drive) Sometimes you throw it away and punt; NOT IN HIS NATURE. But if he wants to be a great one, he'll learn that part of the game: Even Favre did (for a few years anyway!)

As for the RedZone: it's simple: he has to STOP forcing the ball down the middle of the field. If it's nothing is there: THROW IT AWAY. He tried a time or two last night and got called for grounding. He'll learn what is and isn't grounding, But it's part of the learning curve. Honestly, he hasn't ever been one to play it safe: but as I said, he'll have to at certain times; ESPECIALLY IN DECEMBER!

 

[Darkhound]

I agree. The main point is... i hope he stops trying to force things in the red zone. And like you mention, If there is nothing, simply throw it away.

 

[cobra]

And like you mention, If there is nothing, simply throw it away.

Do you realize that if Tony does that, then he loses so many of the plays that make him great? So many of the amazing things he has done which have helped us win games is because he tries to make plays? Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

You can't have all those amazing plays and have him embracing the "throw it away" rule. He is making those plays because he is not throwing it away.

Brad Johnson will throw away the ball like mad. But Brad Johnson won't make the plays like Tony does.

So decide what you want. Do you want a bus-driving efficiency king? Or do you want a gunslinger that keeps defenses on their heels?

There is no doubt what kind of QB Romo is. If you want him to be a bus driver, then you are asking to quit making great plays.

 

[chinch]

Romo has the worst two enablers around him now.. Jerruh and Wade. All is fine with these guys, all the time.

Romo is now 13-2 in his 15 road games. That is what he gives you.

Since you're stat happy:

0-1 in the playoffs on the road
0-1 in the playoffs at home

Too many mistakes and bone-headed plays which opens the door for good teams will pounce on. Careless with the football... fumbles, bad INTs, two intentional grounding, etc.

Two end-zone INTs in 3 weeks into "cover 4" show you forcing plays instead of taking what is given. Just totally unnecessary.

Several other QBs can be as effective as Romo if given the toolset & playmakers Tony has to work with. That doesn't mean he's not a top-7 QB (in the regular season), it just means he has an advantage that can be quickly erased come January or with injury (how'd he look at home vs NYG with a slowed TO in the playoffs - not great).

Needs correcting now, not "tony you're the greatest, say hi to jessica" celebrity QB treatment.

 

[LeonDixson]

Do you realize that if Tony does that, then he loses so many of the plays that make him great? So many of the amazing things he has done which have helped us win games is because he tries to make plays? Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

You can't have all those amazing plays and have him embracing the "throw it away" rule. He is making those plays because he is not throwing it away.

Brad Johnson will throw away the ball like mad. But Brad Johnson won't make the plays like Tony does.

So decide what you want. Do you want a bus-driving efficiency king? Or do you want a gunslinger that keeps defenses on their heels?

There is no doubt what kind of QB Romo is. If you want him to be a bus driver, then you are asking to quit making great plays.

There is a lot of truth to this post, Cobra. You can't really have one without the other. You know, it's funny. In spite of Favre's greatness, which I acknowledged, I never really wanted him to be our QB. Now that we have Romo who is a lot like Favre, I really wouldn't trade him for anyone other than MAYBE Peyton or a healthy Brady. And I'm not even sure about those two.

 

[percyhoward]

The better this defense plays, the fewer chances he'll feel like he has to take.

 

[Don Corleone]

So decide what you want. Do you want a bus-driving efficiency king? Or do you want a gunslinger that keeps defenses on their heels?

There is no doubt what kind of QB Romo is. If you want him to be a bus driver, then you are asking to quit making great plays.

I hear you, but the mistakes he makes are kinda dumb. It would appear that he should be able to cut those mistakes out and keep his gunslinger mentality.

Fumbling in the end zone against Philly is hardly a mark of a gunslinger.

 

[Grevus]

I thought Romo looked "off" for this game. He threw many passes off the mark that he normally makes easily....timing off, routes wrong, poor pass, all of the above...and two intentional grounding calls. Just seemed like a poor night which is not like him at all.

He should not have many nights like this, so relax and expect him to get his QB rating of 82 back up closer to 100.

I agree. Romo didn't play his best game. The Pack was trying really hard to stop the pass last night. That's why we ran the ball so well. What I saw last night was a team that can win either by passing or running.

 

[cobra]

Too many mistakes and bone-headed plays which opens the door for good teams will pounce on.

So I guess the Eagles and Packers are not good teams?

Because he won those games (in case you missed you that fact).

Yes, he needs to always be improving. But you are acting as if he is Quincy Carter out there. Tony Romo is as good as any QB in the league, and he is constantly trying to improve himself. Remember, Eli Manning won the Super Bowl last year. If Eli can, then Romo can. You think Eli makes less mistakes than Romo?

Needs correcting now.

What needs correcting now? That he hasn't won a playoff game? That can't be corrected now so quit using that as the ****ing measuring stick.

You are clearly out of your damn mind if you think the mistakes are not taken seriously by Romo and Garrett. Obviously you have never heard Tony talk one time if you think this guy has a big ego and has sunshine blown up his ***. After the Eagles game, in the interview, all he could talk about was how upset he was of the mistake and wanted to keep it from happening again.

Brett Favre won a Super Bowl. John Elway did. Roger Staubach did. All of these guys are gunslingers who tried to make plays (and often made mistakes). Quit acting like everyone has to be an Aikman/Brady efficiency clone in order to be any good.