An oddity about Washington

[SaltwaterServr]

I had my curiosity aroused and went to look at Washington's draft history since they love to spend future draft picks like they're infected with Hepatitis C.

The Commanders have not had a full draft board, a pick each in rounds 1-7, since 1995. The last season in which we won a Super Bowl.

They've had drafts like we did in 2008, but not one in every round in the last 15 seasons.

The rest of the NFC East is 2006, us and Philly.

The other teams most allergic to draft picks? Carolina, Denver 2002 which for the mathematically impaired, is still only have the streak that the Commanders have managed to create in futility.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Washington has given away picks for 2012 as well.

17 years and counting of tossing out picks like yesterday's fish heads. Man I love their front office as a Cowboys fan.

 

[Califan007]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Washington has given away picks for 2012 as well.

Still have them...for now lol.

Besides, having a pick in "every round" isn't the point, it's the number of picks...afterall, the Cowboys have only done it once in that same timespan lol. Is once in 15 years really that much better?

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Still have them...for now lol.

Besides, having a pick in "every round" isn't the point, it's the number of picks...afterall, the Is once in 15 years really that much better?

Number of picks huh? That's the important thing? Wow.

No, the point would be getting production out of the picks you have. See there's one thing to having a pair of #1 draft picks in the 2005 draft, and there's another to getting the most dominant defensive player in the NFL as opposed to shipping your's off as a complete failure for a 2012 conditional pick to Oakland.

Remind me again of the Commanders current Pro-Bowl undrafted free agents. Then list the current All-Pro players you've drafted, not signed, but drafted.

You see, when a team like Washington has more holes than a swiss cheese factory those draft picks come in handy in not making a joke out of the franchise by signing any random malcontent that will take your 21 million and decide not to play.

When you are a team like Dallas that's stacked, we can do things like trade picks for the best WR in the entire draft, move around to get the linebacker we wanted.

There's a major difference between being the punchline as the offseason Super Bowl champions, and being widely considered a strong choice to make the actual Super Bowl. Commanders fans have been brought up in the Snyder regime to think one counts as much as the other.

 

[SkinsFan82]

There's a major difference between being the punchline as the offseason Super Bowl champions, and being widely considered a strong choice to make the actual Super Bowl.

Actually, you're wrong, in the end pre-season hype is worthless unless you follow through and win it all.

The Cowboys have been hyped the past 4-5 years as Super Bowl locks and failed to live up to the hype.

I agree it's silly how the Commanders 'win' the off season each year, but to say that the hype the Cowboys get is more 'valuable' in some way, when neither team gets to the Championship is just as absurd.

I mean obviously you wrote up this whole thing to make yourself feel better about your own team, so you'll take nothing from any response given. Though I do congratulate you on making some of the morons on Extremeskins look a little brighter (just a little though..).

 

[Ren]

You know how you can tell it's the offseason?

There's still Skins fans here :laugh1:

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

yup, about week 2 and they'll all be gone again.

 

[Cowboysfan570]

Actually, you're wrong, in the end pre-season hype is worthless unless you follow through and win it all.

The Cowboys have been hyped the past 4-5 years as Super Bowl locks and failed to live up to the hype.

No, the Cowboys were considered mediocre until the second half of 06 when Romo came onto the scene, they did well enough in 2007 to be SB favorites in 08 but when that didn't work out they became favorites for either #2 or #3 in the East in 09.

Now they're getting SB hype again because of how they performed in 09. I notice that you Commander fans love to try and pretend the Cowboys hype is always higher than it is so that you can be happier down in the basement if the Cowboys don't live up to it, but that doesn't make it any less dishonest.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

You know how you can tell it's the offseason?

There's still Skins fans here :laugh1:

Post of the week ^^^:laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1:

 

[SaltwaterServr]

No, the Cowboys were considered mediocre until the second half of 06 when Romo came onto the scene, they did well enough in 2007 to be SB favorites in 08 but when that didn't work out they became favorites for either #2 or #3 in the East in 09.

Now they're getting SB hype again because of how they performed in 09. I notice that you Commander fans love to try and pretend the Cowboys hype is always higher than it is so that you can be happier down in the basement if the Cowboys don't live up to it, but that doesn't make it any less dishonest.

Exactly. Nothing could make the morons on ES look brighter when you've got complete **** tard Commanders fans spouting that Dallas has been the Super Bowl favorite for the last five years.

They live in, and loathe, our shadow.

 

[kapolani]

It's going to be another long season for the Foreskins.

The McFlabb experiment is going to end horribly.

Their running back corps are on their last legs.

The receivers that they are going to field are woefully inadequate.

It's going to be a pleasure watching them crash and burn once again.

 

[zrinkill]

You know how you can tell it's the offseason?

There's still Skins fans here :laugh1:

 

[Hostile]

Actually, you're wrong, in the end pre-season hype is worthless unless you follow through and win it all.

The Cowboys have been hyped the past 4-5 years as Super Bowl locks and failed to live up to the hype.

I agree it's silly how the Commanders 'win' the off season each year, but to say that the hype the Cowboys get is more 'valuable' in some way, when neither team gets to the Championship is just as absurd.

I mean obviously you wrote up this whole thing to make yourself feel better about your own team, so you'll take nothing from any response given. Though I do congratulate you on making some of the morons on Extremeskins look a little brighter (just a little though..).

That's wild. I'm a Cowboys fan, and pretty much an addict for their news. I don't remember where we were locks for titles. In fact I can only think of one year where the magazines had us a a favorite from the NFC and that was 2008. Last year we were picked to be 3rd in the NFC East. That's a lock?

I haven't read the magazines yet this year to see who they are predicting, but I won't be surprised if it is us.

Twice in 4 to 5 years doesn't mean for the past 4 to 5 years. We were hyped in 2006? We were hyped when BP left and Wade was hired? We were hyped in 2009 after yet another post Turkey Day fade in 2008?

You've got a strange interpretation of History.

 

[Idgit]

That's wild. I'm a Cowboys fan, and pretty much an addict for their news. I don't remember where we were locks for titles. In fact I can only think of one year where the magazines had us a a favorite from the NFC and that was 2008. Last year we were picked to be 3rd in the NFC East. That's a lock?

I haven't read the magazines yet this year to see who they are predicting, but I won't be surprised if it is us.

Twice in 4 to 5 years doesn't mean for the past 4 to 5 years. We were hyped in 2006? We were hyped when BP left and Wade was hired? We were hyped in 2009 after yet another post Turkey Day fade in 2008?

You've got a strange interpretation of History.

He's talking about the voice of envy that whispers in the ear of every Sk*ns fan when it comes to the Cowboys. It reverberates in that empty chamber called Extremeskins and is responsible for threads with titles like 'Chris Cooley is better than Jason Witten' and 'I'd take Jason Campbell over Tony Homo, anyday.'

When the rest of the world doesn't support such nonsense in the form of preseason predictions, the perception that we're a Superbowl lock sets in concrete so that when and if we don't meet that exaggerated expectation they're all able to fall back on calling us underachievers. Meanwhile, they trade their draft picks and rebuild from the ground up again and sign mediocre players to huge contracts and generally go about tarnishing what's left of a once-proud reputation.

 

[Califan007]

Number of picks huh? That's the important thing? Wow.

And your use of emoticons disproves my point, how, exactly? lol

No, the point would be getting production out of the picks you have.

Ah, so the point is NOT having a pick in each of the 7 rounds of the draft...like I just said lol.

There's a major difference between being the punchline as the offseason Super Bowl champions, and being widely considered a strong choice to make the actual Super Bowl. Commanders fans have been brought up in the Snyder regime to think one counts as much as the other.

Um, there's ZERO difference between the two lol...offseason and preseason hype (or lack thereof) means zilch either way, so both are completely worthless. Scary that you put any value into it at all.

 

[Califan007]

You know how you can tell it's the offseason?

There's still Skins fans here :laugh1:

Man, that one wildcard win in 12 years made you Cowboys fans a cocky bunch, hasn't it lol...

 

[Idgit]

Man, that one wildcard win in 12 years made you Cowboys fans a cocky bunch, hasn't it lol...

You guys are running out of bullets pretty quickly, huh? You have anything left to throw at us while you 'rebuild'?

I put 'rebuild' in quotes because it implies you had something built previously and you have to go back to the first Gibbs regime (the one that started in the 1980s, not the recent, embarrassing, failed one) to find a team that qualifies as 'built.'

 

[SaltwaterServr]

And your use of emoticons disproves my point, how, exactly? lol



Ah, so the point is NOT having a pick in each of the 7 rounds of the draft...like I just said lol.



Um, there's ZERO difference between the two lol...offseason and preseason hype (or lack thereof) means zilch either way, so both are completely worthless. Scary that you put any value into it at all.

1. To make sure you knew I was laughing at you. Not with you.

2. Point is to get something out of the picks which Washington hasn't in a looong time. Keep on trading them away for over the hill vets and big name free agents that flame out like a Pride Parade with no mascara.

3. The value is that we as Cowboys fans recognize the difference while the Commanders fans are on ES stroking themselves over the McNabb trade. Keep on believing someone else's cast off is going to help you reach a winning season while Dallas is a true contender for the big thing. How many times over the years have ES blown up and rained it's filth on other team's boards with how great you were going to be with the newest thing in the cupboard?

Commanders, 4-12, but the greatest thing since the remote control and sliced bread the day after Danny signed Haynesworth. Yeah, I checked it out and y'all were all kinds of happy after that. Throwing around "playoff contenders" and what not like it meant something. Then reality hit and the real teams came to play the game.

Commanders, offseason champs, regular season chumps.

 

[Califan007]

That's wild. I'm a Cowboys fan, and pretty much an addict for their news. I don't remember where we were locks for titles. In fact I can only think of one year where the magazines had us a a favorite from the NFC and that was 2008. Last year we were picked to be 3rd in the NFC East. That's a lock?

I haven't read the magazines yet this year to see who they are predicting, but I won't be surprised if it is us.

Twice in 4 to 5 years doesn't mean for the past 4 to 5 years. We were hyped in 2006? We were hyped when BP left and Wade was hired? We were hyped in 2009 after yet another post Turkey Day fade in 2008?

You've got a strange interpretation of History.

I think it depends on where you look and how you define "offseason favorites" (or whatever term was used). With sooooo many news and information avenues available now via the web and cable/satellite, you're gonna find predictions all over the place. I don't think too many people just go by what the annual football magazines predict anymore.

You're right in that there have only been a few years recently in which the Cowboys seemed to be a more-or-less consensus pick to get to the Super Bowl (if not win it), but every year over the last 4 years or so there have been numerous individual sportswriters and news outlets predicting the Cowboys to be NFC champs, who either loved Parcells and jumped on his bandwagor a bit too eagerly or thought Romo was on the cusp of being the next Tom Brady so went ahead and predicted a conference championship, or who thought adding T.O. would put Dallas "over the top" and propel them into the Super Bowl.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

I think it depends on where you look and how you define "offseason favorites" (or whatever term was used). With sooooo many news and information avenues available now via the web and cable/satellite, you're gonna find predictions all over the place. I don't think too many people just go by what the annual football magazines predict anymore.

You're right in that there have only been a few years recently in which the Cowboys seemed to be a more-or-less consensus pick to get to the Super Bowl (if not win it), but every year over the last 4 years or so there have been numerous individual sportswriters and news outlets predicting the Cowboys to be NFC champs, who either loved Parcells and jumped on his bandwagor a bit too eagerly or thought Romo was on the cusp of being the next Tom Brady so went ahead and predicted a conference championship, or who thought adding T.O. would put Dallas "over the top" and propel them into the Super Bowl.

You're really reaching with this. The guy said since 2005 and Hos shot him down. Two years we've been touted as major favorites. The rest is pretty much existent only in the empty little minds of the ES faithful.

 

[Califan007]

You guys are running out of bullets pretty quickly, huh? You have anything left to throw at us while you 'rebuild'?

I put 'rebuild' in quotes because it implies you had something built previously and you have to go back to the first Gibbs regime (the one that started in the 1980s, not the recent, embarrassing, failed one) to find a team that qualifies as 'built.'

5 of the last 7 games between the Cowboys and the Commanders were won by 5 points or less, with the other two games being won by each team by a wide margin. 3 of the last 4 games have been won by 4 points or less...even with Zorn, Campbell and Vinny at the helm the Cowboys could only eek out their wins by the barest of margins. And overall the two teams have split their last 10 games, each beating the other 5 times.

So, you see, it doesn't matter to me how you describe the Commanders lol...because there's nothing in the results over the past 5 years that warrants the dismissive attitude you're displaying. But I do love some good ol' smack talk between Cowboys and Commanders fans...I grew up at a time when the hatred between our fan bases was truly intense, and was in person...so I respect the grief we give each other lol *thumbsup*