CFZ And we are off!

[gimmesix]

Only one team has won more games than the Cowboys over the past three seasons. The Chiefs have won one more game than the Cowboys.

Granted the Cowboys have been dismal in the playoffs but at least they were given an opportunity.

Six teams made the playoffs in all three seasons, the Bills, Cowboys, Chiefs, Eagles, Bucs and 49ers.

McCarthy and Zimmer are both proven winners, so expecting the team not to be good goes against their track record. Expecting the team to be great goes against ours.

 

[Streifenkarl]

Didn’t read a single one of them. Some have way too much time on their hands.

Oh if it was some Dak praise you'd have spiritualized every single word of it, wouldn't ya?

 

[Chasing6]

In the salary cap era literally every team has holes. You can't have All-pros at every position. You hide your weaknesses and emphasize your strengths. I think it would do a lot of you guys good if you actually looked into other franchises from time to time to see that nothing with the Cowboys is that far from how every other team does things.

Very difficult to hide weaknesses in the NFL against good well balanced teams.

Playing complimentary football is the way to go and that always starts in the trenches.

Good DT's make the LB's job easier. Good LB's can not make the DT's job easier. A good pass rush makes it easier on the DB's. Great DB's will get exposed with no pass rush.

No different on offense. A dominate OLine makes the running and passing game that much easier. Bigger holes and more time to throw the ball. It is not really that difficult to understand.

However, we have a GM who wants to sell Jersey's. How many of you have purchased a Zach Martin or a Tyron Smith jersey??? Both will most likely be in the Hall of Fame.

The average fan and apparently our GM does not understand how to build a team. They fall in love with the flash of TD's and exciting plays, but really have no idea or understanding of what allowed those plays to take place.

 

[Cowboys5217]

And all pretty much bad-mouthing the team. I'm not happy with our approach to free agency. I don't believe we can contend for Super Bowls with it, and I think that has been proven. But that doesn't mean it's all bad. It's not good enough, but we may still be a playoff team. I know some would prefer to go belly-up than just be a team that gets into the playoffs, but I don't think I could stand to watch a miserable season, and I don't know if it would result in real change anyway. Jerry and Stephen might shuffle the deck chairs but they are still driving the ship into the iceberg.

It does mean it's all bad. Not being able to contend for Super Bowls is the worst place to be stuck in football.

 

[Cowboys5217]

McCarthy and Zimmer are both proven winners, so expecting the team not to be good goes against their track record. Expecting the team to be great goes against ours.

Zimmer is a proven loser. He's never taken a team to a SB as DC or HC. He's a dinosaur so exactly how many more decades does it take for you to be convinced?

 

[Diehardblues]

Darn, just when I was feeling a little more hopeful after reading Jumbo’s thread. Lol

 

[DogFace]

Damn, what a ***sy. Man up just a little.

 

[MyFairLady]

I watched the most pathetic loss in team history against Green Bay. The response was we are working to resign all of our guys at max deals and bring back a washed out bum RB. Not one single piece of critical self evaluation and commitment to change. Like it never even happened.

 

[diamonddelts]

That's a lot of words .

I concur. I ain't reading all of that ish.

 

[Fmart322]

It's like that for every NFL team

 

[Pokes12]

You're overly negative. We have a good team, better than mediocre. They have a strong chance at raising hope before crushing our spirits in the playoffs.

I think we'll be ok at LB. Overshown, Kendricks and putting Clark in his natural position should be a nice combo. Parsons will likely see more time at LB as well.

We are screwed at DT. The type of stuff I've read and found to be most concerning is Mazi having some type of mental health issues. Maybe that's actually why he lost weight and why we didn't get much explanation because it's one area of player health that may still be HIPPA protected? Anyhow we've got very little in the middle.

Also our rbs are concerning. If the oline blocks well they may be decent, but my concern is no one will be threatened by them and Dak will have to face a lot of extra coverage. Not a good recipe.

Still I think we have the talent to put together a fun, ultimately disappointing season. Full disclosure I stopped reading after your third or fourth paragraph. No offense to you though, because I think we agree in principle. You're just a little further down the negativity spectrum than me.

I think I am further down the realism spectrum, not negativity. I am an optimistic person by nature, but I have been a fan for a long time and have had my share of disappointments, even with far greater talent than this group.
You seem to agree with a lot of my points. You even used the term "we are screwed at DT" and our RBs are concerning. Where are we seeing things differently? I just think we should expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised if they give us more. Typically we are promoted to expect the Super Bowl and for the past 29 years we have dissapointed. Keep the faith but don't have glory-day expectations. After all, Dak is still the number one disappointment in the playoffs.

KEEP THE FAITH BUT DON'T TAKE OUT THE ANNOINTING OILS.

 

[Pokes12]

And all pretty much bad-mouthing the team. I'm not happy with our approach to free agency. I don't believe we can contend for Super Bowls with it, and I think that has been proven. But that doesn't mean it's all bad. It's not good enough, but we may still be a playoff team. I know some would prefer to go belly-up than just be a team that gets into the playoffs, but I don't think I could stand to watch a miserable season, and I don't know if it would result in real change anyway. Jerry and Stephen might shuffle the deck chairs but they are still driving the ship into the iceberg.

I am bad-mouthing the team but you describe the Jones boys as driving the ship into the iceberg. Not sure how your descriptor is positive and mine bad-mouthing?

 

[Pokes12]

I think you’re taking the narrow view. I’m confident Trey Lance will lead the Cowboys to a Super Bowl victory this season. He’s a phenom. I’m sure of it because I’ve read that several times on CZ. Cowboys have a phenom. Can’t do much better than that.

You know, I think you are correct. I am completely changing my view. Trey will be great, he will lead us out of temptation as well and turn water into wine. The Super Bowl trophy will be an afterthought.

 

[KJJ]

Oh if it was some Dak praise you'd have spiritualized every single word of it, wouldn't ya?

I don’t read long posts…period! By the way this thread isn’t about Dak. Some of you need to get him out of your head.

 

[CowboysRule]

Very difficult to hide weaknesses in the NFL against good well balanced teams.

Playing complimentary football is the way to go and that always starts in the trenches.

Good DT's make the LB's job easier. Good LB's can not make the DT's job easier. A good pass rush makes it easier on the DB's. Great DB's will get exposed with no pass rush.

No different on offense. A dominate OLine makes the running and passing game that much easier. Bigger holes and more time to throw the ball. It is not really that difficult to understand.

However, we have a GM who wants to sell Jersey's. How many of you have purchased a Zach Martin or a Tyron Smith jersey??? Both will most likely be in the Hall of Fame.

The average fan and apparently our GM does not understand how to build a team. They fall in love with the flash of TD's and exciting plays, but really have no idea or understanding of what allowed those plays to take place.

I've never bought an officially licensed jersey.

You just proved the point of trying to hide weaknesses though. A good offensive line can make a poor RB look better by opening holes. Or make a QB who can't read a defense and has questionable decision making at times look better by giving him more time in the pocket. McCarthy wanted to play ball control, run more, pass less. But he realized our run game was a weakness so we started passing more, mostly to our All-Pro WR. Play to strengths, hide weaknesses.

 

[Chasing6]

I've never bought an officially licensed jersey.

You just proved the point of trying to hide weaknesses though. A good offensive line can make a poor RB look better by opening holes. Or make a QB who can't read a defense and has questionable decision making at times look better by giving him more time in the pocket. McCarthy wanted to play ball control, run more, pass less. But he realized our run game was a weakness so we started passing more, mostly to our All-Pro WR. Play to strengths, hide weaknesses.

That will work well against 2/3's of the league with a talent like CD. Then a good team will focus on take CD away, and when other receivers can not get separation, then hat do you do?

 

[CowboysRule]

That will work well against 2/3's of the league with a talent like CD. Then a good team will focus on take CD away, and when other receivers can not get separation, then hat do you do?

I never said that was the best way to do it. No matter how much you play to your strengths, sometimes there are teams that are just better than you. Hopefully with the changes to our offensive line this year we are better able to run the ball when CD is being overly focused on.

 

[Pokes12]

I watched the most pathetic loss in team history against Green Bay. The response was we are working to resign all of our guys at max deals and bring back a washed out bum RB. Not one single piece of critical self evaluation and commitment to change. Like it never even happened.

Well said. Until today there has not been a cogent statement from anyone in the Cowboys organization explaining the unexplainable; how a team that was a juggernaut during the season, especially at home, got blown out of the game in the first half by a heavy underdog team that most people gave any chance to win. Win, they obliterated us, plain and simple. We played a miserable game in every facet of the game, offense, defense, special teams, and coaching. No one in the organization has come close to a Mea culpa for the debacle. We, the lemming fan base, are just supposed to ignore culpability and simply forget the issue completely. Let bygones be bygones. Yes, that is how much Jerry thinks of us all. Instead of explanation, he said we are "all in" for 2024. Few people understood what he meant. He was not saying they were all in in putting together a quality roster for a deep run in the playoffs, what he meant is that he had figured out how to go "all in" in taking as much money out of the fanbase's pockets for the same old flim-flam. Yes, raise the ticket price, raise the price of concessions and merchandise, scrimp on free agency and try to sign as many cheap deals as possible. That is what Jerry meant and what Jerry is doing. The US Bank of Jerry is filling its safes full of money at the fan base's detriment and you know what? He does not give a darn whether the team wins or loses as long as the money rolls in and the franchise value keeps going up. Got to hand it to him, he is the master huckster. Heck, he makes PT Barnum look like Mother Theresa.

 

[morat1959]

I think you’re taking the narrow view. I’m confident Trey Lance will lead the Cowboys to a Super Bowl victory this season. He’s a phenom. I’m sure of it because I’ve read that several times on CZ. Cowboys have a phenom. Can’t do much better than that.

Kinda like all the SBs Dak has taken us to.

 

[shabazz]

That's a lot of words .

It might have been shorter if the OP merely said, " we ain't gettin 12 wins again "