Android Fragmentation: It's Complicated...

[theogt]

you don't have a clue why apple chooses to block some apps while allowing others.

I don't either, but I've seen enough inconsistency to know it has zero to do with the stability of the app itself. other factors are at play

So, you do or don't have a clue? Because if you're claiming ignorance, don't just turnaround and offer definitive answers.

as for keeping ahead, they have already fallen behind with their o/s because they don't allow you to rewire the core functionality.

for instance - you can't you make your iphone operate like a pager because apple doesn't allow you to circumvent the core notification system for receiving text messages.

I'm not sure having my smartphone operate like a pager is a what I'd consider an *ADVANCE* in technology.

Apple won't ever let you "rewire the core functionality" because it's not their thing. But that doesn't make them any more or less advanced.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

So, you do or don't have a clue? Because if you're claiming ignorance, don't just turnaround and offer definitive answers.

neither of us have a clue why some apps get rejected. only one of us pretended to (and it wasn't me)

I'm not sure having my smartphone operate like a pager is a what I'd consider an *ADVANCE* in technology.

it's simply one of many things you can't do with an iphone.

I like being able to operate my phone as a pager - it is an extremely useful business feature that the iphone can't handle

I won't even begin to go into the awesomeness of google voice, which is an advanced feature, and something the iphone rejected.

 

[kapolani]

neither of us have a clue why some apps get rejected. only one of us pretended to (and it wasn't me)



it's simply one of many things you can't do with an iphone.

I like being able to operate my phone as a pager - it is an extremely useful business feature that the iphone can't handle

I won't even begin to go into the awesomeness of google voice, which is an advanced feature, and something the iphone rejected.

Why would you want to make your phone behave like a pager?

The texting feature is the same thing.

FWIW Google Voice has been approved for a while now. But, before that there was a jailbreak solution that I used 2 iterations ago.

I've been using Google Voice for years now as well.

 

[theogt]

neither of us have a clue why some apps get rejected. only one of us pretended to (and it wasn't me)

Actually, I never said a thing about rejecting apps. That's just you.

it's simply one of many things you can't do with an iphone.

I like being able to operate my phone as a pager - it is an extremely useful business feature that the iphone can't handle

I won't even begin to go into the awesomeness of google voice, which is an advanced feature, and something the iphone rejected.

It's not that the iPhone can't do it. It's that that Apple doesn't let you do it. And may never. It has nothing to do with being advanced or not advanced.

By the way, Google Voice is available in the iPhone app store.

 

[YosemiteSam]

By the way, Google Voice is available in the iPhone app store.

Yeah, the government was about to crush old Steve Jobs on that subject. It was do or die for them.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Why would you want to make your phone behave like a pager?

The texting feature is the same thing.

FWIW Google Voice has been approved for a while now. But, before that there was a jailbreak solution that I used 2 iterations ago.

I've been using Google Voice for years now as well.

the fact is, Apple tried to block the app on their device. anybody that tries to claim it is because of stability of the phone is full of ****.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

It's not that the iPhone can't do it. It's that that Apple doesn't let you do it.

same thing.

the iphone can't do it because the o/s doesn't provide the hooks to do it.

it is one of many, many things you simply can't do on the iphone because the o/s limits creativity

 

[kapolani]

the fact is, Apple tried to block the app on their device. anybody that tries to claim it is because of stability of the phone is full of ****.

I don't know who claimed instability.

Truth be told I'm sure ATT had a little say in the matter. Trying to circumvent their cut of the pie etc...

I'm still curious why you would want your phone to behave like a pager. It makes no sense.

 

[kapolani]

same thing.

the iphone can't do it because the o/s doesn't provide the hooks to do it.

it is one of many, many things you simply can't do on the iphone because the o/s limits creativity

False.

The Jailbreak scene has been doing creative stuff with the OS since its inception.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't know who claimed instability.

Truth be told I'm sure ATT had a little say in the matter. Trying to circumvent their cut of the pie etc...

I'm still curious why you would want your phone to behave like a pager. It makes no sense.

Steve Jobs makes all kinds of bs claims when he wants to prevent apps on iOS. You KNOW this is true.

 

[theogt]

same thing.

the iphone can't do it because the o/s doesn't provide the hooks to do it.

it is one of many, many things you simply can't do on the iphone because the o/s limits creativity

Yes, having the best screen resolution of any smart phone or new technologies like facetime is the same thing as not allowing (though the capability is there) developers to write programs that allow your smartphone to act as a pager.

Wait, no, I think they're completely different and this is a ridiculous argument that I'll avoid from here on out.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Steve Jobs makes all kinds of bs claims when he wants to prevent apps on iOS. You KNOW this is true.

Out of curiosity.

Does android phones have a central program or site that they download games/apps through...like their version of Itunes? Or does that go through the phone maker?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Out of curiosity.

Does android phones have a central program or site that they download games/apps through...like their version of Itunes? Or does that go through the phone maker?

Google has an app store called the Android Market, (they actually just opened another one too) but you can install apps without going there too. I have Dungeon Hunter that I installed manually. To do that though, you have to go into Settings->Applications and check "Unknown Sources" to install them.

 

[kapolani]

Out of curiosity.

Does android phones have a central program or site that they download games/apps through...like their version of Itunes? Or does that go through the phone maker?

They have one, but the vetting process isn't as strict as Apple's. Apparently that lets a lot of crap apps through and potentially unsafe ones as well.

Apple's app store has it's share of crap apps as well, but at least they try to keep that to a minimum.

 

[Dallas]

They have one, but the vetting process isn't as strict as Apple's. Apparently that lets a lot of crap apps through and potentially unsafe ones as well.

Apple's app store has it's share of crap apps as well, but at least they try to keep that to a minimum.

Honestly, your making yourself look foolish. You havent a clue of 2.2+ and the Android Market or the changes implemented over the past year. PLEASE stop making it out like you know what your saying.

Thanks Hawaii

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I don't know who claimed instability.

Truth be told I'm sure ATT had a little say in the matter. Trying to circumvent their cut of the pie etc...

I'm still curious why you would want your phone to behave like a pager. It makes no sense.

anybody that needs a pager function would understand it

why carry two devices around when one device can do both functions.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Yes, having the best screen resolution of any smart phone or new technologies like facetime is the same thing as not allowing (though the capability is there) developers to write programs that allow your smartphone to act as a pager.

Wait, no, I think they're completely different and this is a ridiculous argument that I'll avoid from here on out.

the capability isn't there.

jailbreaking the phone does not provide integration where integration does not exist.

when you jailbreak, you can install apps that Jobs doesn't allow, but it still doesn't allow you to circumvent the core functionality of the o/s

 

[Vtwin]

Honestly, your making yourself look foolish. You havent a clue of 2.2+ and the Android Market or the changes implemented over the past year. PLEASE stop making it out like you know what your saying.

Thanks Hawaii

Don't stop him!

I love reading his stuff.

 

[theogt]

the capability isn't there.

jailbreaking the phone does not provide integration where integration does not exist.

when you jailbreak, you can install apps that Jobs doesn't allow, but it still doesn't allow you to circumvent the core functionality of the o/s

Look, having a phone act like a pager isn't an advancement. They don't do it because they don't want to do it and never will. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it's completely extraneous to the conversation going on in this thread.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Look, having a phone act like a pager isn't an advancement. They don't do it because they don't want to do it and never will. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it's completely extraneous to the conversation going on in this thread.

Text messaging was invented for use in the business world. Sort of like the pager. Notice pagers also had the ability to receive text messages.

I be damned, iPhones (and other phones) act just like pagers in that sense! :laugh2: