Annual caution that college highlight films can cause PCD

[Motorola]

you left out JERRY !!!!!!

And it appears Eagles owner Jeff Lurie has joined Jerry in the "know my organization down to the socks and jocks" club. His first NFL Championship has whet his appetite to make coaching decisions = Jalen Hurts should be the starting QB.

 

[Bobhaze]

And it appears Eagles owner Jeff Lurie has joined Jerry in the "know my organization down to the socks and jocks" club. His first NFL Championship has whet his appetite to make coaching decisions = Jalen Hurts should be the starting QB.

That’s good for us, bad for the e-girls. I have a cousin who’s a big eaglet fan and he’s been saying for years that Jerry Jones is the best thing to happen for the e-girls the last nearly 3 decades. He’s says they’re going to build a statue of JJ in Filly, lol.

 

[Motorola]

without a combine this is going to be far worse year for targeting player and only thing most scouts have is film..the opt out players makes it twice as tough..theres going to be far more1st round busts then in any past years IMHO..

IMO, no combine should not adversely affect how NFL teams evaluate players' readiness for the NFL. The one component that is significantly impacted is the medical assessment by independent specialists. Once a college player ends his last game in the school uniform - he immediately signs up with an individual or group that has a program for combine drill enhancement so they are at their best to perform in Indianapolis. Secondly missed are the player interactions and interviews - which have come under increasingly negative scrutiny because of inappropriate questions and actions by teams' personnel assigned to conduct these sessions (remember Dez and his meeting with the Dolphins?)
The elimination of personal contact between teams and draft prospects mean that NFL franchises just have to be more diligent in the limited opportunities they have to judge the incoming talent to the league.

 

[Motorola]

without a combine this is going to be far worse year for targeting player and only thing most scouts have is film..the opt out players makes it twice as tough..theres going to be far more1st round busts then in any past years IMHO..

I find it ironic that every year, sports media outlets increasingly deride, dismiss, and diss the NFL Combine - aka "the underwear Olympics" - but they all still provide daily updates about players' testing there. For a football evaluation process that many feel is outdated....an outstanding or terrible result is deemed newsworthy - and is reported. Examples....a record-breaking 40 time, or an abysmal Wonderlic score.
Hypocrisy at its best.

 

[DandyDon52]

And it appears Eagles owner Jeff Lurie has joined Jerry in the "know my organization down to the socks and jocks" club. His first NFL Championship has whet his appetite to make coaching decisions = Jalen Hurts should be the starting QB.

I think that would be howie mostly , with lurie approval.
Someone wanted and liked hurts or they would not have drafted him.
Might as well see how he does while he is cheap.

 

[GMO415]

Just like every TC Cowboys look awesome, then they shhhh the bed when it counts.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Buyer beware: College highlight films of most NFL prospects for the draft are almost always overrated. Proceed with caution. In fact many highlight films this team of year lead to the dreaded offseason affliction known as “Pet Cat Disease”.

What’s “Pet Cat Disease, or “PCD”? It’s the annual over-fixation at draft time on a prospect whose highlight film shows a QB hitting wide open receivers while under no pressure against a team like William and Mary College, featuring a defense with 11 guys not headed to the NFL. Most college players can look look really good for about 5-10 plays a game. But they usually play 50-70 plays a game, meaning only about 10-20% of the time are they looking like they’re in “beast mode”.

Highlight films have their place and purpose. But it’s worth noting some key indicators:

• Who is the opponent in the film? If it’s Ohio State whipping up on the Citadel, tap the brakes.
• If it’s a QB or WR in the highlight, you may be witnessing a coverage meltdown, not a spectacular play. Many highlights are actually defensive lapses which skew what you see.
• If it’s a lineman, consider who they’re “pancaking” in a highlight. If an OT is crushing a 180 lb CB from Vanderbilt on a screen pass, be aware.

My point is, don’t just believe a college highlight film at face value. For some perspective, watch a high school highlight film and remember 97% of the kids in the film will never play college football. Then apply that formula to a college film.

Avoid “PCD”!

Bob Haze bringin the Public Service Announcement lol

 

[Scotman]

Unfortunately, even a blind squirrel finds a nut and we have a lot of blind squirrels on here that catch that nut and talk about it for years

That's what I do. You should hear how long I talk about that time we drafted a player I DIDN'T want and he turned out to be awful.

 

[Bobhaze]

Bob Haze bringin the Public Service Announcement lol

Pet Cat Disease (PCD) is a serious public health issue on this forum, lol.

 

[Zekeats]

I don't trust the opinions of YouTube Scouts...

I don’t trust any of them. I trust what i see with my own eyes.

 

[Bullflop]

Pet Cat Disease (PCD) is a serious public health issue on this forum, lol.

No doubt about it -- if there's one thing we really don't need, it'd be adding a collection of Pet Puddy-tats to this ragtag outfit.

 

[Rockport]

Buyer beware: College highlight films of most NFL prospects for the draft are almost always overrated. Proceed with caution. In fact many highlight films this team of year lead to the dreaded offseason affliction known as “Pet Cat Disease”.

What’s “Pet Cat Disease, or “PCD”? It’s the annual over-fixation at draft time on a prospect whose highlight film shows a QB hitting wide open receivers while under no pressure against a team like William and Mary College, featuring a defense with 11 guys not headed to the NFL. Most college players can look look really good for about 5-10 plays a game. But they usually play 50-70 plays a game, meaning only about 10-20% of the time are they looking like they’re in “beast mode”.

Highlight films have their place and purpose. But it’s worth noting some key indicators:

• Who is the opponent in the film? If it’s Ohio State whipping up on the Citadel, tap the brakes.
• If it’s a QB or WR in the highlight, you may be witnessing a coverage meltdown, not a spectacular play. Many highlights are actually defensive lapses which skew what you see.
• If it’s a lineman, consider who they’re “pancaking” in a highlight. If an OT is crushing a 180 lb CB from Vanderbilt on a screen pass, be aware.

My point is, don’t just believe a college highlight film at face value. For some perspective, watch a high school highlight film and remember 97% of the kids in the film will never play college football. Then apply that formula to a college film.

Avoid “PCD”!

You see it every day here.

 

[Rockport]

Unfortunately, even a blind squirrel finds a nut and we have a lot of blind squirrels on here that catch that nut and talk about it for years

@CATCH17

 

[TwoCentPlain]

That’s good. But most scouts don’t have that time luxury.

An average game has around 50 minutes of actual playing time. The defense is on the field for 25 minutes, offense 25 minutes. So, it only takes a scout less than 1/2 hour to watch the full tape of a player for one game. Assume 1/2 hour for notes and rerunning certain plays. One scout could look at the full tape of 40 players in a 40-hour work week.

McClay probably has a team of 5-10 scouts meaning they can look at the full tape of 200-400 players every week.

My guess is that the scouts have looked at the full tape of the players expected to go in the first 5 rounds.

Lot easier for scouts to watch film today.

 

[JBond]

And far more late round steals.

A smart organization will take advantage. Hopefully it is the Cowboys

 

[TwoCentPlain]

@Bobhaze PCD doesn’t just come from highlight reels. Could be the player went to my alma mater or a certain college. Could be a good story that makes the player a pet cat.

Usually I’m watching a game and a some player will stand out. If that player stands out more and more, then that player can be a pet cat.

I noticed right away the first time I saw Pitts play several years ago, that he had something special. I remember commenting that I hope he becomes a Cowboy. He became an instant pet cat. For me, pet cats fly under the radar. Pitts can’t be a pet cat because everyone knows him now.

Yes, we all know to watch highlight films with a grain of salt. Pet cats make the game fun. Why would we want to avoid pet cats?

Someone here posted a highlight film of FL DL Slaton. He looked pretty good to me and became a pet cat. I hope the Cowboys take him in the later rounds. Fun to see if he pans out.

 

[Haimerej]

An average game has around 50 minutes of actual playing time. The defense is on the field for 25 minutes, offense 25 minutes. So, it only takes a scout less than 1/2 hour to watch the full tape of a player for one game. Assume 1/2 hour for notes and rerunning certain plays. One scout could look at the full tape of 40 players in a 40-hour work week.

McClay probably has a team of 5-10 scouts meaning they can look at the full tape of 200-400 players every week.

My guess is that the scouts have looked at the full tape of the players expected to go in the first 5 rounds.

Lot easier for scouts to watch film today.

"if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes."

 

[Hawkeye19]

Pet Cat Disease (PCD) is a serious public health issue on this forum, lol.

Yep. Right up there with “ResistTheFacts-ism”, “Uber-Sensitiv-itis” and “DoomAndGloom-aplasty”

 

[CATCH17]

Buyer beware: College highlight films of most NFL prospects for the draft are almost always overrated. Proceed with caution. In fact many highlight films this team of year lead to the dreaded offseason affliction known as “Pet Cat Disease”.

What’s “Pet Cat Disease, or “PCD”? It’s the annual over-fixation at draft time on a prospect whose highlight film shows a QB hitting wide open receivers while under no pressure against a team like William and Mary College, featuring a defense with 11 guys not headed to the NFL. Most college players can look look really good for about 5-10 plays a game. But they usually play 50-70 plays a game, meaning only about 10-20% of the time are they looking like they’re in “beast mode”.

Highlight films have their place and purpose. But it’s worth noting some key indicators:

• Who is the opponent in the film? If it’s Ohio State whipping up on the Citadel, tap the brakes.
• If it’s a QB or WR in the highlight, you may be witnessing a coverage meltdown, not a spectacular play. Many highlights are actually defensive lapses which skew what you see.
• If it’s a lineman, consider who they’re “pancaking” in a highlight. If an OT is crushing a 180 lb CB from Vanderbilt on a screen pass, be aware.

My point is, don’t just believe a college highlight film at face value. For some perspective, watch a high school highlight film and remember 97% of the kids in the film will never play college football. Then apply that formula to a college film.

Avoid “PCD”!

I usually watch the justbombproductions highlight film first to see if watching anything else is worth my time.

I want to see flash plays first.

Then if I’m sold on what I see then from there I’ll start watching game by game footage.


QBs are the worst though because most of the highlights are just deep passes which is one of the easier throws they can make.

I also don’t knock players because of their competitions talent. If they fit a prototype and have prototype athleticism and traits it really doesn’t matter how good or bad their opponent is.

 

[Bobhaze]

I usually watch the justbombproductions highlight film first to see if watching anything else is worth my time.

I want to see flash plays first.

Then if I’m sold on what I see then from there I’ll start watching game by game footage.


QBs are the worst though because most of the highlights are just deep passes which is one of the easier throws they can make.

I also don’t knock players because of their competitions talent. If they fit a prototype and have prototype athleticism and traits it really doesn’t matter how good or bad their opponent is.

Good points. I like watching a QBs highlights to see how many times they actually make a great play vs how many times a defender just blew the coverage. Also it’s worth noticing how a QB handles real pressure. It’s not that difficult to throw “dimes” on your pro day when the pressure you’re receiving is just a broom. Also worth noticing when a QB makes a play. Is it when their team is down 35 points and their throwing into soft coverages or is it the winning drive in a close game.