Another Bill in: NFL HOF voters retroactively declare Buffalo Bills the Team of the 1990s

Doomsday said:
San Francisco and GB were both better then the Bills
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From 90-93? I'd buy the Niners but the Packers went 6-10, 4-12, 9-7 and 9-7 in that span. They were on the upswing with Holmgren and a young Favre but weren't there quite yet.
 
itsaboat said:
It takes a great team to go to 4 straight super bowls, even if they lost every time
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Thanks to a weak AFC bills got in by default. On the other hand we were the Beast of the East. You can say that the Bills then was the Beast of the Least.
 
tyke1doe said:
Jimmy is going to get in. I think Jerry Jones will get in eventually. And there's an outside shot that Darren Woodson gets in because he's so likeable and a member of the media.
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It all seems calculated to spread the love around as much as possible in order to maximize sales of advertising, memorabilia, and all the other revenue avenues they can.
 
CrownCowboy said:
That's just it though.

If the Bills were in the NFC, they probably wouldn't of made it to one Super Bowl, much less four. That's how dominant the conference was back then.

I'll submit that the 90's Packers, the 90's 49ers and perhaps some of the 90's Eagle's teams were better than the Bills were. We already know how much better we were then them and I'm not even counting the two other teams they lost to in the Super Bowl in the 90's.

Greatness is a term that gets thrown around alot. I don't think they were great. They played in an far inferior conference. All of the teams mentioned above, except the Eagles (lol), won Championships in the 90's and they had to do it by going through us just like we had to beat them when we won our three.
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That's a great point. Bills definelty didn't play in the toughest division but there were a solid team. Like should I discredit the Pats today because all they had to do was beat the Ravens and Colts in order to get to the Super Bowl?
 
rocyaice said:
That's a great point. Bills definelty didn't play in the toughest division but there were a solid team. Like should I discredit the Pats today because all they had to do was beat the Ravens and Colts in order to get to the Super Bowl?
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The Bills had a very good team in the 90's. I'm not trying to discredit what they did back then at all. I just don't think they deserve being put in the great category.

The Patriots are a whole different story. What Tom Brady and Belichick have done over the last decade is greatness, but I don't think it's to the level of what the Cowboys did in the 90's or any other dynasty because the Patriots cheat, plain and simple. All my opinion of course.
 
I really don't care if someone tries to make the Bills the Team of the 90s. Last time I checked, they don't put asterisks on Super Bowls wins, they don't give Super Bowl rings to the losers, and they don't award the Super Bowl trophy to the team with the least amount of points at the end of the game.

You can take all the titles you want, even call yourself the "true" Team of the 90s. All I'm going to say is, "What were the scores of your Super Bowl games" and "Show me your Super Bowl rings."

Everything else is just fantasy football.
 
rocyaice said:
Yeah I mean the Cowboys DID win 3 but even they couldn't make the claim of going to 4 straight Super Bowls.
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Give me a break. So winning 3 out of 4, with the lone loss coming in the NFC championship game is somehow less of an accomplishment than going to 4 SBs in a row and losing all of them, mostly in horrific fashion? The 1990 Buffalo Bills were the very best version of that team and they weren't even as good as the Giants. For them to have more players in the HOF than the 90s Cowboys teams is utterly moronic.
 
Jimmy just didn't coach long enough. He may get in if he stays in the media for a long time like John Madden did.

With Haley in, they still need to get Darren Woodson in. But really, who else? Erik Williams had the car wreck and didn't play long enough. Daryl Johnston could get in partly because of his media career. Leon Lett had too much offseason stuff and fizzled quickly. Maybe Nate Newton, but I doubt it.
 
They can if they want.
Calling a horse a dog will not turn a horse into a dog.
Have at it.
 
perrykemp said:
I know Ron Wolf is highly revered, however, the teams he GM'd only won a single Superbowl (1996) and made it to one other and lost (1997).

Not saying he doesn't maybe deserve it someday but I am also of the mind the Gil Brandt is more worthy.
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Wolf had a strong hand in building the Raider teams of the 60's and 70's (and contributed to them in the 1980's as well), and built the Buccaneers from an expansion team to one that made the NFC Championship Game in their fourth season of existence (after going winless for nearly two years). Wolf's achievements are definitely Hall of Fame worthy.

Brandt definitely made his mark, especially with scouting smaller schools and converting players from other sports to being highly effective football players (Cornell Green and Pete Gent, amongst others). The computerization of scouting information was largely a Tex Schramm innovation, not Brandt's. Brandt's effectiveness drafting also took a dramatic swing in the wrong direction once the draft moved from January to first May, then April starting in 1978. Between 1978 and 1988, you would be hard pressed to find a team that drafted worse than the Cowboys did. I would think that this had an impact on how Brandt is viewed by his contemporaries.

I do believe that Brandt should be in the Hall of Fame, especially in light of his contributions to NFL Media and Sirius XM in addition to his work in Dallas, but the last 10+ years in Dallas definitely opens up his credentials to some scrutiny.
 
They can call themselves anything they want.

But if you walk around the Bills facilities, you won't see any Lombardi Trophies there.

Thus, their argument is lost
 
cowboys2233 said:
Give me a break. So winning 3 out of 4, with the lone loss coming in the NFC championship game is somehow less of an accomplishment than going to 4 SBs in a row and losing all of them, mostly in horrific fashion? The 1990 Buffalo Bills were the very best version of that team and they weren't even as good as the Giants. For them to have more players in the HOF than the 90s Cowboys teams is utterly moronic.
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No i'm not saying that. I'm just saying the Bills were a great team as well. Its not like its the Lions or anyone. To get back to the Super Bowl even in a weak division 4 years straight is impressive. More so impressive in todays time then the 90's but still impressive.
 
Since when does having more HOF players equal greater team? The team of the 90's title will never belong to the Buffalo Bills. They were too busy circling their wagons to make that claim, lol. The NFC reigned supreme in that era and no one shined brighter than our Dallas Cowboys.
 
RXP said:
They can call themselves anything they want.

But if you walk around the Bills facilities, you won't see any Lombardi Trophies there.

Thus, their argument is lost
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Well, they do have four AFC Championship trophies. But that's like a woman getting a friendship ring when she was looking for an engagement ring. ;)
 
Fmart322 said:
if the Buffalo Bills played in the NFC during their run they wouldn't have made it into the Superbowl four straight years. The AFC was no where near as good as the NFC during that time.
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Yep, a lot of pass happy run-n-shoot type offenses
 
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