Another Dak thread. stats

Most people know that Dak has "mostly" played well this year. Maybe 4-6 games that weren't really good....the rest were often very good or even great

To be fair though, you can never use "volume" stats like attempts, total passing yards or passing TDs without also looking at efficiency and turnovers.(8th worst)

He comes out just fine (top 7 as of this week) even if we use everything the OP uses but not turn a blind eye to the rest

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Post Week 15 Combined QB Stats/Rank

"Combined Stats" just means using two key stats that --when combined--almost always point to the QBs having the best season (the eventual All-Pros, MVPs, etc)

Those stats are:
1) Standard QB Passer Rating Rank
and
2) TD-Turnover Differential Rank: Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)
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Here are the QB Rankings using Combined Stats thru Week 15 (this week I put the actual combined rank for top 20 in parentheses):
  1. Stafford (1+1=2)
  2. Goff (5)
  3. Allen (6)
  4. Maye (8)
  5. Hurts (13)
  6. Love (15)
  7. Prescott (16)
  8. Rodgers (20)
  9. D Jones (22)
  10. Jackson (23)
  11. Mayfield (26)
  12. Darnold (27)
  13. Williams (28)
  14. Dart (29)
  15. Nix (30)
  16. Brissett (32)
  17. Herbert (33)
  18. Stroud (33)
  19. Lawrence (36)
  20. M Jones (36)
  21. Pennix
  22. Young
  23. J Daniels
  24. Tagovailoa
  25. Mariotta
 
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DFWJC said:
Most people know that Dak has "mostly" played well this year. Maybe 4-5 games that werent really good.

To be fair though, you can never use "volume" stats like attempts, total passing yards or passing TDs without also looking at efficiency and turnovers.

He comes out just fine (top 7 as of this week) even if we use everything the OP uses but not turn a blind eye to the rest

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Post Week 15 Combined QB Stats/Rank

"Combined Stats" just means using two key stats that --when combined--almost always point to the QBs having the best season (the eventual All-Pros, MVPs, etc)

Those stats are:
1) Standard QB Passer Rating Rank
and
2) TD-Turnover Differential Rank: Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here are the QB Rankings using Combined Stats thru Week 15 (this week I put the actual combined rank for top 20 in parentheses):
  1. Stafford (1+1=2)
  2. Goff (5)
  3. Allen (6)
  4. Maye (8)
  5. Hurts (13)
  6. Love (15)
  7. Prescott (16)
  8. Rodgers (20)
  9. D Jones (22)
  10. Jackson (23)
  11. Mayfield (26)
  12. Darnold (27)
  13. Williams (28)
  14. Dart (29)
  15. Nix (30)
  16. Brissett (32)
  17. Herbert (33)
  18. Stroud (33)
  19. Lawrence (36)
  20. M Jones (36)
  21. Pennix
  22. Young
  23. J Daniels
  24. Tagovailoa
  25. Mariotta
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Out of the top 7 quarterbacks on that list, who’s the only one missing the playoffs? Maybe even top 8 if Rodgers gets in. Stats aren’t everything.
 
CowboysFever1973 said:
Out of the top 7 quarterbacks on that list, who’s the only one missing the playoffs? Maybe even top 8 if Rodgers gets in. Stats aren’t everything.
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Exactly.

My weekly thread on QB stats is just a side bar helping to predict MVP and/or All Pro (not Pro Bowl..which is a popularity contest).

More often than not, QBs with near the top of this list are on teams in the playoffs in large part because of their play that year.

But as they say "football is the ultimate team game". Defense, special teams, etc, all come into play.
Not the purpose of those threads though
 
The reality is that the team needs to follow suit of team's having joy in drafting young talented quarterbacks and stacking their rosters by offsetting against the rookie QB contracts. Patriots, Broncos, Texans and Bears. All four teams will likely be making the play offs.

Or by paying a solid vet half of what Dak earns like Darnold or Mayfield and build the roster around them. Again one or both will make the play offs.

It's frustrating as I made this point 7-8 years ago.

The days of significantly overpaying a non-elite quarterback as the highest paid player in NFL history was never going to end well.

It's pointless really discussing any hopes or other players that could be brought in as it's irrelevant with Dak Prescott as the quarterback with his $231 million guaranteed over 4 years.
 
CowboysFever1973 said:
Dak fans that prefer Dak over Cowboys are trolls with an agenda. It’s gotten worse the last three years too. I don’t think they’re actually Cowboy fans. They’re Dak fans who became Cowboy fans when Dak joined the team
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Without throwing anyone under the bus, I can name 1 who was a Cowboys fan before Dak came on board. A downright hatred for Romo is what twisted him away.
 
CowboysFever1973 said:
Dak fans that prefer Dak over Cowboys are trolls with an agenda. It’s gotten worse the last three years too. I don’t think they’re actually Cowboy fans. They’re Dak fans who became Cowboy fans when Dak joined the team
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That is just silly. I could understand that argument if Dak was a big time top of the first round in the draft type of QB that won a natty or heisman,

Unless it was Dak's family or fans of Mississippi State. So I seriously doubt are a number of fans here who only became Cowboys fans because Dak is playing for the cowboys. Just silly.
 
CowboysFever1973 said:
Captain Crash and Mountaineer are some of the best posters here. Stop assuming being realists about this team means we like Philly. I’ve been accused of being a Commanders fan too. Stop the trolling!!!
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I do think both Captain Crash and Mountaineer are Cowboys fans.

However I do not consider someone who goes into every dak thread and refuses to admit that Dak is playing well, when he is playing well, no matter what is in no way shape or form a "realist".

A realist can admit, talk about and converse on a player when that player does bad and/or bad. A member can't be a realist if they are only on one side of that issue.

Anyone that can not admit that Dak has had bad games and various issues...is not a realist.

Anyone that can not admit that Dak has had good games and helped the team...is not a realist.

Anyone that thinks Cooper, Milton and Trey are better QBs that should have been the starter over Dak when Dak was healthy...is not a realist.
 
CT Dal Fan said:
Yes, the QB is holding this incredible roster back.

If only we had a real QB like Mahomes, who can truly carry a team, then Dallas would have the same...uh.... record as.... the...uhh...6-8 Chiefs.
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Yes but that's not reality only one team gets Mahomes. There are ten teams content with their QB. Dak has been a damn good QB this year
 
CT Dal Fan said:
Yes, the QB is holding this incredible roster back.

If only we had a real QB like Mahomes, who can truly carry a team, then Dallas would have the same...uh.... record as.... the...uhh...6-8 Chiefs.
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Mahomes with Lamb and Pickens would break the NFL.

Add in Williams running it. Yikes.

Has Mahomes ever had a 1,000 yard RB?
 
If only the D could have gotten him into meaningful playoff games, then we could have seen the master in the playoffs. With those stats! Look out NFL! Dak the playoff juggernaut was coming!
 
acr731 said:
Would he? He didn't seem to think about the team when he pushed Jerry into that franchise crippling contract
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I’m trying to give benefit of the doubt here. I would hope he would give up the stats for winning playoff games.
 
nhcowboysfan said:
Great! Another Dak thread exalting the great one's stats that have led us to a 6-7-1 record. I somewhat feel a smidgen for sympathy for the Dak-Over-Dallas fans. He had the misfortune to come into the NFL at the wrong time and for the wrong team. Had it been him, instead of Brady, being drafted by the Patriots two decades ago, the man would have a Super Bowl ring for all ten fingers.
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Dak the GOAT could have opted for free agency and signed with whoever. This is like feeling sorry for Myles Garrett because he's on the Browns.

Dak has chosen Jerry this brotherhood defining contracts, God help us all.
 
acr731 said:
Would he? He didn't seem to think about the team when he pushed Jerry into that franchise crippling contract
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Dak didn't push Jerry into anything. Dak and his team maximized their opportunity to get the best contract he can get. Other players in all sports do it all the time.

Dak didn't put a gun to Jerry's head. Its called negotiating. Last I checked, players don't negotiate to get the least amount of money they can get, they negotiate to get the most they can get.

I dont blame them one bit either. If they got a serious injury that cut their careers short and took away their potential for future earnings.... who's going to look out for the future of their families and namesake? It sure won't be the players that you're currently playing with or the front office for that matter.

So with that said, I don't blame Dak or any other player for getting ALL the money they can get while they can get it. Its not Dak's job to work or re-work the salary cap, thats the job of the team's front office.

So if Dak gets blamed for maximizing his worth then he has to get in a long line of other athletes who maximized their worth as well. He's not the first and won't be the last.

To conclude, everyone playing for the Dallas Cowboys is getting paid alot of money. Dak's production has shown that he is playing top 3, top 5 at worst at quarterback. So if everyone else on the Cowboys are getting paid lots of money to play football, why aren't they earning their money by playing top 3, top 5 at their positions?

There are 52 other players on the team. They can't will themselves to work hard enough to play at a top 3, top 5 level like Dak is playing at his position? Dak's salary doesn't control how hard another player can prepare himself to be the best he can be. Blame them.
 
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