Another game lost due to referee bias

Everson24

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I didn't ask you about the other owners, I asked about the referees and what reason they have to be biased against the Cowboys. Are you trying to say that the owners are instructing the referees the purposely influence the outcome of the games in favor of the Cowboys opponent? And you think something like that can happen without one disgruntled ref blowing the whistle and exposing this massive conspiracy? Not even a ref who is no longer in the league and has nothing to lose?

It happened in the NBA and Bill Leavey admitted to making calls in Super Bowl XL that gave the game to the Steelers, The NFL also showed their bias when they imposed a salary cap hit on Dallas for violating the salary cap in an uncapped year. If anyone doesn't believe in the rampant bias, they did not watch the end of the Dallas Green Bay game last year. The NFL had every reason to stay with the call on the field and yet they went outside the replay rules to give the game to their boy Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
 

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Spotty officiating is magnified when your team is not good enough to overcome it.
 

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I've seen the Cowboys get numerous breaks in games this season. Phantom PIs, etc to keep them in games, etc.. Yet these threads keep springing up. Why would the league, who would love to have their top franchises and the love/hate with fans, at the top of the heap, conspire against Jerry....especially since he is one who has had the Goodell's back? Please stop.

Please be more vague so I can understand less.
 

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It happened in the NBA and Bill Leavey admitted to making calls in Super Bowl XL that gave the game to the Steelers, .

Wow, you can't see the forest for the trees. He admitted to making two BAD calls, and that they impacted the outcome of the game. That is apples and oranges to saying that it was done intentionally, and that his goal was to make sure that the Steelers won. But just go ahead and keep believing in your conspiracy theory, I'm guessing that you're also one of those people who think that we never landed on the moon too right?
 

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Both fumbles that we recovered should have been allowed to play out (all turnovers are reviewable now and the officials have been instructed to let them play out) and even the first one by Eric Decker was initially ruled an fumble and recovered by Dallas. But no, some official on the opposite side of the field comes in and talks the referee into changing it to "down by contact". Jason Garrett now has to use his challenge and because it was ruled "down by contact" on the field the play stood, If it had been called a fumble it would/should not have been overturned either. The same thing basically happened on the Jets game winning drive when Ryan Fitzpatrick fumbled. These bad calls were a 12 point swing in the final score.

If it was just this game I could overlook it, But it has been happening now since early 2014 when nearly every potential turnover was ruled in favor of the opposition and not allowed to play out (we lost quite a few defensive TDs last year because of this). If you watch the Steelers or Giants they almost always get these benefit of doubt calls in their favor. This officiating bias has cost us more than a few games this year and just contributed to what has become a dreadful season.

If it is a really an inside job to try and make sure the cowboys lose and call every fumble or TO in favor of the other team...Maybe the Dallas Cowboys should field a team good enough that we don't put it in the hands of the Refs to be able to decide the outcome of the game.
 

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Please be more vague so I can understand less.

What's vague? Refs have been bad league wide. We have gotten just as many breaks as we have had bad calls. They have been pointed out weekly when these come up. Also what is vague about pointing out the league and Jerry are tight so why would there be a conspiracy. Maybe you should figure out what vague means.
 

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LOL we threw 4 picks and lost by 3. One of those picks was in the end zone.

Maybe if we had played flawlessly, you can point at the refs, but this team shot itself in the foot once again.
 

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Anyone blaming the officiating for the teams 4-10 record is just looking for excuses.
 

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It is a long off season, we could go through the game play by play.

Or we could look at the plays in question. The ones for us, the ones against us.

It is a rare team that can overcome systemic bias in a playoff game.
 

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I've seen the Cowboys get numerous breaks in games this season. Phantom PIs, etc to keep them in games, etc.. Yet these threads keep springing up. Why would the league, who would love to have their top franchises and the love/hate with fans, at the top of the heap, conspire against Jerry....especially since he is one who has had the Goodell's back? Please stop.

Without a single example you're just pitching dirt while decrying people who've chosen to use actual occurrences in their assessment. You're appealing to logic without supplying any.
 

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Both fumbles that we recovered should have been allowed to play out (all turnovers are reviewable now and the officials have been instructed to let them play out) and even the first one by Eric Decker was initially ruled an fumble and recovered by Dallas. But no, some official on the opposite side of the field comes in and talks the referee into changing it to "down by contact". Jason Garrett now has to use his challenge and because it was ruled "down by contact" on the field the play stood, If it had been called a fumble it would/should not have been overturned either. The same thing basically happened on the Jets game winning drive when Ryan Fitzpatrick fumbled. These bad calls were a 12 point swing in the final score.

If it was just this game I could overlook it, But it has been happening now since early 2014 when nearly every potential turnover was ruled in favor of the opposition and not allowed to play out (we lost quite a few defensive TDs last year because of this). If you watch the Steelers or Giants they almost always get these benefit of doubt calls in their favor. This officiating bias has cost us more than a few games this year and just contributed to what has become a dreadful season.

Both those fumbles were ruled exactly the opposite of McFadden's fumble in the previous game. "Ball was moving in his hands" was McFadden, yet Decker (two fingers on the back of the ball) had control when his knee hit. What a bunch of crap. Then the same former head of officiating comes on and gives the same explanation but agrees with the call.
 

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Without a single example you're just pitching dirt while decrying people who've chosen to use actual occurrences in their assessment. You're appealing to logic without supplying any.

Because every week I've gone through these threads and supplied logic. I'm not going to go back and and hunt down the examples I gave EVERY week on here. That's why I post them during the game on here or the week the new "ref excuse" thread pops up. Off the top of my head, the Commanders game...they had multiple long plays called back due to suspect holdings, chop blocks(kid rolling on ground without hitting player) and OPI when they were in our territory. During the game thread it was brought up many times that they were getting a heavy dose of refs stopping drives. Heck we won a playoff game due to ref incompetence against the Lions. People just look for excuses. Another example is the Twill celebration penalty against Miami. He celebrated for 25-30 seconds...of course that gets called. But all we heard is they are out to get us. Another example is the second Eagles game. Byron Maxwell had like 2-3 just crap PI calls in a row that kept scoring drives of ours alive and yet those were ignored as another "refs hate us " thread appeared after. Football games are full of bang/bang plays. Even guys like Sean Lee are saying stop the excuses, WE lost the games. For some reason though, some think that the #1 franchise is getting screwed weekly despite their owner being one of the biggest Commish supporters and games across the league this year being poorly officiated. It's across the board on all sides. It's a cop out excuse to blame refs. 1- out of 12 games says its the players, not the refs.
 

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Because every week I've gone through these threads and supplied logic. I'm not going to go back and and hunt down the examples I gave EVERY week on here. That's why I post them during the game on here or the week the new "ref excuse" thread pops up. Off the top of my head, the Commanders game...they had multiple long plays called back due to suspect holdings, chop blocks(kid rolling on ground without hitting player) and OPI when they were in our territory. During the game thread it was brought up many times that they were getting a heavy dose of refs stopping drives. Heck we won a playoff game due to ref incompetence against the Lions. People just look for excuses. Another example is the Twill celebration penalty against Miami. He celebrated for 25-30 seconds...of course that gets called. But all we heard is they are out to get us. Another example is the second Eagles game. Byron Maxwell had like 2-3 just crap PI calls in a row that kept scoring drives of ours alive and yet those were ignored as another "refs hate us " thread appeared after. Football games are full of bang/bang plays. Even guys like Sean Lee are saying stop the excuses, WE lost the games. For some reason though, some think that the #1 franchise is getting screwed weekly despite their owner being one of the biggest Commish supporters and games across the league this year being poorly officiated. It's across the board on all sides. It's a cop out excuse to blame refs. 1- out of 12 games says its the players, not the refs.

Such a detailed response. Totally not just some random crap cobbled together to bash fans of the Cowboys. But that's basically your purpose here, so continue with your reverse bias complaining about complaining.
 

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Wow, you can't see the forest for the trees. He admitted to making two BAD calls, and that they impacted the outcome of the game. That is apples and oranges to saying that it was done intentionally, and that his goal was to make sure that the Steelers won. But just go ahead and keep believing in your conspiracy theory, I'm guessing that you're also one of those people who think that we never landed on the moon too right?

If you don't believe the refs gift wrapped that Super Bowl for Jerome Bettis and the Steelers then I think you might be the one who is in total denial of reality.
 
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