Another layer to Zeke's case

haleyrules

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Actually, the case is as far as the CBA is concerned.

But if they can get an injunction, they can spend a year waging a PR war against the NFL and trashing Tiffany Thompson as a lying, money-grubbing coke *****.

Did he hit her? Only those two know. What does your gut
say?
It seems, at least on the surface, that the Lady tried to set Elliott up for financial gain. Was there a little rough stuff?? Maybe. Not enough evidence for the Police to lay a charge.
 

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For the techies out there.

I assume the phone data can determine time and location of texts etc.? The location being important in this case.

Zeke's phone data should be able to say where he was at all times? Has he volunteered this information?

Is Zeke is battling against evidence putting him in the same location as contemporary injuries and texted photos?

The NFL used phone metadata to link the times that the texts were sent, and the photos, to the times that they were together. Now, the metadata for the photos could easily be altered, and Elliott didn't deny that they were together during the days in question.

The photos and metadata, though, aren't an indication as to when abuse took place and who did it. The NFL is saying that it is, which is like saying that 2+2=9.
 

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It seems, at least on the surface, that the Lady tried to set Elliott up for financial gain. Was there a little rough stuff?? Maybe. Not enough evidence for the Police to lay a charge.

At this point I am way more concerned with the process that is punishing Zeke without good evidence to do so rather than whether or not he actually committed this heinous crime. We will never know the truth of what happened, but we absolutely know the process that was involved to extrapolate the truth. And it was absurd.
 

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I posted this earlier in the month but it bares repeating.to demonstrate that Goodell and his minions have made this really.nasty all along.

The advisory.committee was never there to determine guilt or innocense. That was never the issue. Goodell was going to suspend him
Tbe committee was there to determine how go make it stick. For proof, here are two of the four members:

Tonya Lovelace, CEO, WOCN

As the Chief Executive of the group Women of Color Network, she facilitates the organization's mission:


"The purpose of WOCN is to work in and beyond the fields of domestic violence and sexual assault to address a broad range of violence affecting communities of color such as human trafficking, police brutality and over-incarceration. We accomplish this by examining and responding to a global context of colonialism, imperialism, capitalism, racism, sexism, heterosexism, transphobia, and other forms of oppression that intersect with violence against women of color and their communities."

You might notice that this mission statement says absolutely nothing about examining the validity of the domestic violence itself. It is already assumed. She was there to determine whether the punishment would be severe enough to avoid any accusation of being too soft.

In their Principles of Unity Statements:

"WOCN is committed to 'national advocacy through action' and seeks participation in national venues and weighs in on critical issues with a position that is informed by WOCN groups, membership, and stakeholders"

They "seek" participation. They want to "weigh in". In other words, their purpose is to influece, to be a relevant force.

This creates an obvious conflict of interest when Lovelace is the leader of an organization that obtains political importance in the face of domestic violence. Any determination of domestic violence in a high profile situation is extremely advantageous to the organization she heads.

Mary Jo White

An American attorney who served as the 31st Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission. White served from 2013 to 2017. She was the first woman to be United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York serving from 1993 to 2002. She was listed as the 73rd most powerful woman in the world by Forbes.

She is noted for having led the prosecution of John Gotti and overseen those of the terrorists responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, chief among them Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and Ramzi Yousef.

Mary Jo White is an avid New York sports fan, particularly the New York Yankees and Brooklyn Bombers.

So, after the original prosecutor refused to file charges agaInst Zeke, Goodal went out and got the Johnny Cochran of prosecuting attorneys to find the best way to make.any accusation stick. Not only that, but if this high profile political appointee ever wishes to run for office in New York, being the assasin of Zeke's reputation and career could increase her popularity among voters. Could her allegiance to New York sports teams be considered a conflict? Goodall was not, in the least concerned.

The entire process has not been an investigation but the carefull execution of an agenda with political considerations that reveal the true intentions of Goodall. He is not in the least concerned with truth, justice or fairness. He is only interested in gaining favor with the owners by shielding them from political action groups that threaten their bottom line. He will soon be rewarded with a 5 year extension.

I have to believe that the membership of this "Special Expert Advisory Committee' will be one of the issues discussed during the appeal hearing and beyond.
 

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There are apps out there that allow you to do it. The only question is is there "fingerprints" within the phone that remain which show the original data if investigated closely.
If the receiving party is on it the only party that would know is provider. If you change the time on your phone and receive a text, your phone will show you received the text at the time you changed to not the time of the phone that sent it. You would have to subpoena the carrier to get that data which the NFL and TT do not have the power to do so.
 

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I never thought there was any real evidence against Elliott. Never thought the NFL should have pursued it. My post was meant go say that Elliott shouldn't put himself in these situations to begin with.

isn't that kind of circular though, if he didn't do anything how could it be said he put himself in a bad situation

maybe she is a skank and a nutbar, but are players not allowed to date and score as that puts them in a bad situation?
 

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If the receiving party is on it the only party that would know is provider. If you change the time on your phone and receive a text, your phone will show you received the text at the time you changed to not the time of the phone that sent it. You would have to subpoena the carrier to get that data which the NFL and TT do not have the power to do so.

and most phone companies only keep text data for 2 months now anyway
 
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