Another looks says Scandrick really won

[dcfanatic]

Another looks says Scandrick really won

By dcfanatic, September 4, 2009 5:33 pm


After reading last night that the Cowboys were undecided on which Cornerback would be named the permanent starter opposite Terence Newman I took a good twelve or so hours to think about this situation.



Orlando Scandrick won the competition.

Game 2 - Giants​

Game 4 - @ Broncos​

Game 6 - Falcons​

Game 8 - @ Eagles​

Game 10 - Commanders​

Game 12 - @ Giants​

Game 14 - @ Saints​

Game 16 - Eagles​

He gets to start against the Giants and Eagles twice and the Skins once.

So Mike Jenkins only stats one regular season game against an NFC East opponent.

Here's the Jenkins starts...

Game 1 - @ Bucs​

Game 3 - Panthers​

Game 5 - @ Chiefs​

Game 7 - Seahawks​

Game 9 - @ Packers​

Game 11 - Raiders​

Game 13 - Chargers​

Game 15 - @ Skins​

Now you say well that's just the way it worked out though. And I say well who decided who begins the season as the starter. And then you say well maybe they flipped a coin for it. And then I say well if they were both playing equally as well why not flip that same coin and just name the starter for the season. If it's fair to say who starts the season off then isn't it fair to say who's the permanent starter?

And trust me I know that if one of them stinks then they won't be starting anymore.

I will go one better. Why isn't this a three person rotation?

All I hear if that all three CB's are going to play just as much as the other so this whole argument is silly.

So then why doesn't Terence Newman start the 3rd game on the bench?

Oh. I see. Now I sound silly right, lol.

Two more things. If Scandrick starts eight game and also plays the Nickel CB role in every game then he has two jobs.

And lastly. Anyone who thinks that draft status and contract (money) don't play a role in these decisions is really naive.

If these things didn't play any part we would never hear about escalator clauses in contracts for starts. And we hear about it all the time.

As for draft status. I see people use the name Bobby Carpenter when arguing their point that it plays no role. I laugh very hard.

Would Bobby Carpenter even be on the Cowboys right now if he wasn't a first round draft pick in 2006?

Again. Scandrick is the winner.

 

[jterrell]

Agree or disagree, this is good work DCF.

I think Scandrick won in that he forced at worst a tie with a guy with immense talent. I think it's clear both guys play and play a lot. Exactly how many teams are going to go 2 TE like us or pound the ball? Teams need 3 CBs on the field more than half the time nowadays.

This is win/win but your look at opponents was interesting.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Agreed. Nice write up.

 

[Plumfool]

Ur Terrance Newman arguement was not good. He's the best of the three. Not by a small margin either. Annnd much more experienced.

 

[Rampage]

Another looks says Scandrick really won

By dcfanatic, September 4, 2009 5:33 pm


After reading last night that the Cowboys were undecided on which Cornerback would be named the permanent starter opposite Terence Newman I took a good twelve or so hours to think about this situation.


Orlando Scandrick won the competition.

Game 2 - Giants​

Game 4 - @ Broncos​

Game 6 - Falcons​

Game 8 - @ Eagles​

Game 10 - Commanders​

Game 12 - @ Giants​

Game 14 - @ Saints​

Game 16 - Eagles​

He gets to start against the Giants and Eagles twice and the Skins once.

So Mike Jenkins only stats one regular season game against an NFC East opponent.


Here's the Jenkins starts...

Game 1 - @ Bucs​

Game 3 - Panthers​

Game 5 - @ Chiefs​

Game 7 - Seahawks​

Game 9 - @ Packers​

Game 11 - Raiders​

Game 13 - Chargers​

Game 15 - @ Skins​

Now you say well that's just the way it worked out though. And I say well who decided who begins the season as the starter. And then you say well maybe they flipped a coin for it. And then I say well if they were both playing equally as well why not flip that same coin and just name the starter for the season. If it's fair to say who starts the season off then isn't it fair to say who's the permanent starter?

And trust me I know that if one of them stinks then they won't be starting anymore.

I will go one better. Why isn't this a three person rotation?

All I hear if that all three CB's are going to play just as much as the other so this whole argument is silly.

So then why doesn't Terence Newman start the 3rd game on the bench?

Oh. I see. Now I sound silly right, lol.

Two more things. If Scandrick starts eight game and also plays the Nickel CB role in every game won't he actually play more this season?

That's half a season where Jenkins is on the bench when the opposing offense is in their basic two RB, one TE, two WR set.

And lastly. Anyone who thinks that draft status and contract (money) don't play a role in these decisions is really naive.

If these things didn't play any part we would never hear about escalator clauses in contracts for starts. And we hear about it all the time.

As for draft status. I see people use the name Bobby Carpenter when arguing their point that it plays no role. I laugh very hard.

Would Bobby Carpenter even be on the Cowboys right now if he wasn't a first round draft pick in 2006?

Again. Scandrick is the winner.

who do think is gonna man the the other cb spot when Scandrick goes into the slot?:laugh2:

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I read that on your website. Interesting way of looking at it. I also notice the more physcial teams will have Scandrick starting.

 

[viman96]

I do not car who one. I just wish the Wade would have picked a starter and been done with it. Hopefully both of them can maintain a high level of play as they are being swapped in and out of the lineup.

 

[jterrell]

Ur Terrance Newman arguement was not good. He's the best of the three. Not by a small margin either. Annnd much more experienced.

that wasn't his argument....

his argument was if starting doesn't matter then why start newman?
if you answer because he is better than you simply prove his point... a la you start the best player because it DOES matter.

I tend to believe it won't matter much because at the end of the year I'd expect all 3 CBs to have about 75% of the defensive snaps. TNew will be higher in games where he is healthy and then he'll miss snaps when banged up. Playing every down gets you banged up. A little rest of the other guys isn't all that bad.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

that wasn't his argument....

his argument was if starting doesn't matter then why start newman?
if you answer because he is better than you simply prove his point... a la you start the best player because it DOES matter.

Plum good analogy.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Has the team actually announced who plans to start which game?

 

[dcfanatic]

who do think is gonna man the the other cb spot when Scandrick goes into the slot?:laugh2:

You didn't get it bro.

Think harder. Or I will make it simple.

Scandrick has two jobs. Starter on even weeks and Nickel CB.

Jenkins has one. Starter on odd weeks.

 

[Trendnet]

Two more things. If Scandrick starts eight game and also plays the Nickel CB role in every game won't he actually play more this season?

That's half a season where Jenkins is on the bench when the opposing offense is in their basic two RB, one TE, two WR set.

Now that's some mental gymantistics right there...

So if Scandrick starts, and the Cowboys go to a 3 DB formation... isn't Jenkins back on the field?

I fail to see how Scandrick gains more playing time out of that...

One could aslo make the argument that the quality of WR's that Jenkins is "supposedly" has to face is better.

But hey, this all just a precursor to calling Jenkins a bust.

So you might as well put it out there and get it out of your system already.

 

[tayloner]

who do think is gonna man the the other cb spot when Scandrick goes into the slot?:laugh2:

ha, +1

 

[viman96]

Why wouldn't Jenkins man the slot when Scandrick starts? I thought they said who ever wins the staring position then the other will play the slot?

 

[dcfanatic]

Now that's some mental gymantistics right there...

So if Scandrick starts, and the Cowboys go to a 3 DB formation... isn't Jenkins back on the field?

I fail to see how Scandrick gains more playing time out of that...

One could aslo make the argument that the quality of WR's that Jenkins is "supposedly" has to face is better.

But hey, this all just a precursor to calling Jenkins a bust.

So you might as well put it out there and get it out of your system already.

Why are so many people having trouble with this.

Figure it out.

Two jobs to one.

 

[speedkilz88]

You didn't get it bro.

Think harder. Or I will make it simple.

Scandrick has two jobs. Starter on even weeks and Nickel CB.

Jenkins has one. Starter on odd weeks.

No, you don't. They will get the same amount of playing time.

 

[tomson75]

This is nice and all....it fits the Scandrick agenda nicely....but didn't they release a statement saying that the alternating start decision was bogus?

Pretty sure they did.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

So when Jenkins starts 8 games,Scandrick will be playing slot.

When Scandrick starts 8 games,Jenkins will be playing slot.

How is one getting more playing time than the other?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

No, you don't. They will get the same amount of playing time.

Exactly....

 

[Trendnet]

Why are so many people having trouble with this.

Figure it out.

Two jobs to one.

I don't understand your math...

who plays nickel when Scandrick starts?

if Scandrick plays 60 plays every 8 games as a starter

Jenkins plays 60 plays every 8 games as a starter

Scandrick plays 30 plays in the nickel the other 8 games

Jenkins just does what those 8 games in the nickel?