Another looks says Scandrick really won

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jterrell;2921782 said:
that wasn't his argument....

his argument was if starting doesn't matter then why start newman?
if you answer because he is better than you simply prove his point... a la you start the best player because it DOES matter.

I tend to believe it won't matter much because at the end of the year I'd expect all 3 CBs to have about 75% of the defensive snaps. TNew will be higher in games where he is healthy and then he'll miss snaps when banged up. Playing every down gets you banged up. A little rest of the other guys isn't all that bad.



I'm sorry you misunderstood that I misunderstood. I knew exactly what he meant. The fact he put Newman in the same context as Jenkins and scandrick is my issue. Newman is a better corner than both. So he obviously is gonna start. His postion is not in question. The other side is.
 

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viman96;2921798 said:
Why wouldn't Jenkins man the slot when Scandrick starts? I thought they said who ever wins the staring position then the other will play the slot?

Two jobs.
 

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Trendnet;2921810 said:
I don't understand your math...

who plays nickel when Scandrick starts?

if Scandrick plays 60 plays every 8 games as a starter

Jenkins plays 60 plays every 8 games as a starter

Scandrick plays 30 plays in the nickel the other 8 games

Jenkins just does what those 8 games in the nickel?

Jenkins. I'm not sure where DC is going with this...
 

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What a good news story for Dallas, when is the last time they had two quality DBs competing for the starting roll. With a healthy T-New the backfield should see an improvement from last year..

IMO...Scandrick did not win the job, he earned it.. something I am not sure Jenkins has proven he can do...make no bones about it, It was Jenkins job to lose and he lost half the role before day 1.
 

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speedkilz88;2921804 said:
No, you don't. They will get the same amount of playing time.

I agree. Unless you have some proof that Jenkins won't play the slot when Scandrick starts, then they are just playing the same amount. Scandrick and Jenkins both have 2 jobs: starting and playing the slot...
 

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Trendnet;2921810 said:
I don't understand your math...

who plays nickel when Scandrick starts?

if Scandrick plays 60 plays every 8 games as a starter

Jenkins plays 60 plays every 8 games as a starter

Scandrick plays 30 plays in the nickel the other 8 games

Jenkins just does what those 8 games in the nickel?

Now I am confused. I am thinking. lol.
 

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They will get equal snaps. And the analogy to Newman is flawed. And Scandrick will move to the slot with Jenkins moving to the CB opposite Newman when Scandrick starts.
 

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DC,

Do you have anything that supports Jenkins not playing the slot when Scandrick starts?
 

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jobberone;2921819 said:
They will get equal snaps. And the analogy to Newman is flawed.

Equal snaps, but who holds two jobs. And who gets the division games.

The Newman analogy is about everyone getting equal time so we don't need to name any starters.
 

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jobberone;2921819 said:
They will get equal snaps. And the analogy to Newman is flawed. And Scandrick will move to the slot with Jenkins moving to the CB opposite Newman when Scandrick starts.

Alright I edited that part. Although it still has my mind buzzing.

:laugh1:
 

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dcfanatic;2921822 said:
Equal snaps, but who holds two jobs. And who gets the division games.

The Newman analogy is about everyone getting equal time so we don't need to name any starters.

They aren't the equal to Newman. And the whole thing is academic. I have ten jobs. And 24hrs to do it. Same as them. They will get close to equal snaps. And Jenkins will still make more money.
 

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viman96;2921821 said:
DC,

Do you have anything that supports Jenkins not playing the slot when Scandrick starts?

No. Scandrick will always play the slot.

I did an edit.
 

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And all of this will be moot once the first real injury hits. Then, we will be thanking the heavens that we have someone way better than Jacque Reeves to throw in there.

It is obvious to me that Scandrick is more versatile. But given that it is far more normal to just start one guy, there must be some reason for them to go this route.
 

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dcfanatic;2921826 said:
No. Scandrick will always play the slot.

I did an edit.
I think they have already shown that at times Newman may shadow the top wr even when in the slot.


  • (I think he did that against Isaac Bruce)mix up with Holt.
 

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arglebargle;2921827 said:
And all of this will be moot once the first real injury hits. Then, we will be thanking the heavens that we have someone way better than Jacque Reeves to throw in there.

It is obvious to me that Scandrick is more versatile. But given that it is far more normal to just start one guy, there must be some reason for them to go this route.

No injuries bro.

We need all three CB's healthy this season.

The CB's behind them is shaky at best.
 

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speedkilz88;2921828 said:
I think they have already shown that at times Newman may shadow the top wr even when in the slot.

  • (I think he did that against Isaac Bruce)mix up with Holt.

Maybe, but he was a rookie. I think Scan has shown he's a great slot CB so I think the coaches may have faith he can cover anyone there.
 

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dcfanatic;2921833 said:
Maybe, but he was a rookie. I think Scan has shown he's a great slot CB so I think the coaches may have faith he can cover anyone there.
They did it in the 49ers preseason game.
 

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dcfanatic;2921824 said:
Alright I edited that part. Although it still has my mind buzzing.

:laugh1:
:laugh2: when Scandrick comes in and plays the nickel we will have 3 corners on the field.

when Jenkins starts he will play the outside corner opposite newman and will stay there when Scandrick comes in to play the slot.

when Scandrick starts he will play the outside cb opposite of newman but will move to the slot in nickel and dime. when he moves to the slot Jenkins will replace him as the outside cb opposite of tnew in nickel and dime situations.

basically whenever Scandrick is playing the slot whether he's starting or not Jenkins will also be on the field.
 

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Rampage;2921847 said:
:laugh2: when Scandrick comes in and plays the nickel we will have 3 corners on the field.

when Jenkins starts he will play the outside corner opposite newman and will stay there when Scandrick comes in to play the slot.

when Scandrick starts he will play the outside cb opposite of newman but will move to the slot in nickel and dime. when he moves to the slot Jenkins will replace him as the outside cb opposite of tnew in nickel and dime situations.

basically whenever Scandrick is playing the slot whether he's starting or not Jenkins will also be on the field.

We know.

But he still has two jobs.

Who's the #2 CB? If Champ Bailey was here with Newman who's the Nickel CB? And who's not getting on the field unless we go to four CB's?
 
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