Another Parcells Team fails in the post season.

[HoleInTheRoof]

This guy hasn't won anything without Little Bill.

 

[Aikbach]

He didn't coach that team, he's a gm now, his presence is overstated in Miami.

He sits in a sky box, hired the coaches and Ireland and sits back and watches.

Hardly a Parcells coached team.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's BP's guys and they did, what BP himself does, and helped turn the team around quickly and then quickly exited from the playoffs as well.

Same song, different verse.

 

[RoadRunner]

I wouldn't count Miami out just yet. They turned from 1-15 to 11-5. The odds are pretty favorable that they will win some playoff games over the next few seasons.

 

[Aikbach]

I wouldn't count Miami out just yet. They turned from 1-15 to 11-5. The odds are pretty favorable that they will win some playoff games over the next few seasons.

Eh, maybe, but they are a team of aging retreads still in rebuild mode, don't be surprised if they come back down to earth next year to the tune of 8-8.

 

[burmafrd]

The hatred and jealousy some have for BP amuses me.
He took a team of mostly castoffs and fringe guys in the 2003 boys to the playoffs. Its a lot harder then some here seem to think it is.
He has a better base to start with in Miami. For starters he has a decent to good QB. He already has the RBs and some promising WRs. The O line will need more work - but he already has more pieces in place there then he had here after one year. As regards the D he already started getting rid of the old guys and dead wood.
Ad by the way just how many rings has little bill won since Weis and Crennel left?

 

[Rogah]

The hatred and jealousy some have for BP amuses me.
He took a team of mostly castoffs and fringe guys in the 2003 boys to the playoffs. Its a lot harder then some here seem to think it is.
He has a better base to start with in Miami. For starters he has a decent to good QB. He already has the RBs and some promising WRs. The O line will need more work - but he already has more pieces in place there then he had here after one year. As regards the D he already started getting rid of the old guys and dead wood.
Ad by the way just how many rings has little bill won since Weis and Crennel left?

But neither Weis nor Crennel has exactly lit the world on fire since leaving New England so it is tough to think they were the brains behind New England's success.

Belichick without Parcells: 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Championships, something like 16 playoff wins.

Parcells without Belichick: One single playoff victory in something like 10 years as a coach or GM.

 

[burmafrd]

I turn it around on you: how well once again has little bill done without the first set of assistants he put together which were ORIGINALLY BP's guys?
The PATRIOTS ARE arguably more talented now then they were in 2001 and 2002. YET they did not make the playoffs. And last year when everyone was annointing them they blew it in the biggest game of all. SO its pretty easy to argue that little BILL IS NOT as good as he was before he lost Weis and Crennel and the others.

 

[dbair1967]

I wouldn't count Miami out just yet. They turned from 1-15 to 11-5. The odds are pretty favorable that they will win some playoff games over the next few seasons.

Thats what we thought after the 2003 season.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I wouldn't count Miami out just yet. They turned from 1-15 to 11-5. The odds are pretty favorable that they will win some playoff games over the next few seasons.

They turned 1-15 into 11-5 thanks largely in part to having two of the weakest divisions (AFC West/NFC West) on their schedule this year, as well as facing a New England team who lost arguably the best player in the league on their roster.

Ad by the way just how many rings has little bill won since Weis and Crennel left?

He hasn't won any rings... but Weis and Crennel have been gone maybe 3 years?

What he has done, however, is won playoff games, conference championships, and led his team to a 16-0 record last season. This year, he only got them to 11-5 despite losing a Hall of Fame quarterback for the entire season, and having to play the rest of the year with an unknown QB with zero experience.

Parcells, on the other hand... can't even win a playoff game. That's singular. He isnt, nor has he ever been worth anything without Little Bill on his staff.

 

[Juke99]

This is silly.

First off, he's the GM, not the coach.

More importantly, that was a 1-15 team...with a bad match up...that lost.

They over achieved during the season.

Chad Pennington rarely beats good teams. He can game manage effectively and not lose games vs lesser opponents...but sometimes ya gotta not just lose the game...ya gotta win it. Pennington can't do that.

My nickel bet says they won't have as much success next year.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

First off, he's the GM, not the coach.

True, but everyone I hear wants to give him credit for that turnaround, both on forums on sports talk radio.

More importantly, that was a 1-15 team...with a bad match up...that lost.

No, it was an 11-5 team. Last year with a different roster they were 1-15. This is a league of parity, and teams do experience drastic turnarounds year in and year out.

My nickel bet says they won't have as much success next year.

They won't have near as much success the rest of the time he's there. Next year, 9-7. The following.... 7-9, etc.

 

[joseephuss]

Parcells is not the GM. Parcells is the VP of operations. He hired Jeff Ireland as the GM for the Dolphins. Those are just the titles, so I am sure Parcells also does some GM duties.

It would have been nice if Parcells would have stayed on as GM or some similar title in Dallas, but there was no way that it was going to happen. Jerry is the GM and won't share those responsibilities. Parcells is no longer the head coach he used to be and he knows that. He does not have the fire and drive to coach a team, but he still has what it takes to be in the front office.

I thought it was strange when I saw on the ESPN scroll that the Dolphins are saying that Parcells will be back next season. I didn't even know that it was even a question about that happening.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Thats what we thought after the 2003 season.

This was going to be my point exactly. He turned us from 5-11 to 10-6 and into the playoffs in year one, with a first round exit, and then the next year we went 6-10 and followed that up with a 9-7 record and missed the playoffs for the second straight time.

Like I said for Sparano's sake, and those who quickly wanted to give him the genius tag after 11 or 12 games this season, he'd better hope he doesn't continue with BP's usual trends.

 

[Juke99]

Parcells is not the GM. Parcells is the VP of operations. He hired Jeff Ireland as the GM for the Dolphins. Those are just the titles, so I am sure Parcells also does some GM duties.

It would have been nice if Parcells would have stayed on as GM or some similar title in Dallas, but there was no way that it was going to happen. Jerry is the GM and won't share those responsibilities. Parcells is no longer the head coach he used to be and he knows that. He does not have the fire and drive to coach a team, but he still has what it takes to be in the front office.

I thought it was strange when I saw on the ESPN scroll that the Dolphins are saying that Parcells will be back next season. I didn't even know that it was even a question about that happening.

It was built into his contract that if the current owner, who he likes very much, sold the team...Parcells could opt to leave and STILL get paid.

He chose not to.

 

[burmafrd]

Like I have pointed out the BP haters want you to be stupid enough to forget what he did with the Pats and the Jets; acting like that never happened. Pretty pathetic.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Like I have pointed out the BP haters want you to be stupid enough to forget what he did with the Pats and the Jets; acting like that never happened. Pretty pathetic.

How long ago was that? The NFL is a what have you done for me lately league. It's not a "Well this guy did this way back in 1998."

BP, back then, was much better than the BP of now. Going by his most recent history he's not the guy who did something with the Pats or the Jets and even when he was with the Pats and Jets he wasn't the BP that the Giants had. That was the best BP.

 

[Hostile]

He didn't coach that team, he's a gm now, his presence is overstated in Miami.

He sits in a sky box, hired the coaches and Ireland and sits back and watches.

Hardly a Parcells coached team.

Jeff Ireland is the GM. Parcells is the "Hands Off" (wink wink) Vice President of Player Personnel.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Like I have pointed out the BP haters want you to be stupid enough to forget what he did with the Pats and the Jets; acting like that never happened. Pretty pathetic.

He had Little Bill with him at both the Jets and Pats.

 

[Juke99]

Like I have pointed out the BP haters want you to be stupid enough to forget what he did with the Pats and the Jets; acting like that never happened. Pretty pathetic.

No one on the planet disliked the Dallas Cowboy version of Bill Parcells more than me. He had lost his energy for coaching.

But for anyone to suggest that the job he did with the Dolphins was anything but superior, is kinda silly.

That said, I do expect them to fall to earth next year. We'll see.