Another San Diego Draft Story Haunts Cowboys

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Yes, Cowboys fans, you remember this past April in the second round of the 2006 draft. Our heros had the 49th pick, but decided to grab an extra pick from the Jets by trading down to #53. Mammoth All-American OT Marcus McNeil was sitting there for the taking at #49, but, after all, we didn't really need an athletic, quick & powerful offensive tackle at 6-8, 335 lbs. No, our strategy was to trade down 4 picks and take a back-up TE. The reason for this, we were told, was to find another quality TE to maximize our new two TE system.

Well, we're almost through the season, and I'm still waiting to see our vaunted 2 tight end system that was going to baffle defenses, and create mismatches all over the field.

Oh, as far as Mr. McNeil, he was taken with the very next pick (#50), by the SD Chargers. Surprise, huh? It is getting to be an aggrivating habit of the Bolts to wait for us to shoot ourselves in the foot, then take the player that would have benefited us most. Here is an excerpt on how Marcus McNeil has done so far this season:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9885399

Read it & weep.
 

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Yet if we draft him, you scream Bust because he is playing behing Flozell.
 

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Ok, but then we did pick up Marc Columbo, who has proven to be more than Ok, by last count. Heck he was legitimate Pro-bowl candidate this year. I don't see the big downside to that story.

Now, so far Marcus Spears vs Steriod Boy, whats his name Norwestern DT, that might be a different story, since that guy quietly has had a great two years.
 
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Hate to make excuses,but McNeil had medical concerns coming out of college.A lot of teams did not want to risk a high draft choice on him.If not for the medical question marks McNeil would have been a first round draft pick IMO.The chargers took a chance and came up big winners.
 

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I don't see how exactly LT is a problem, or our O struggling to be diverse and explosive
 

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And if his back blows out, you would have been saying "I can't believe we drafted another player with back problems !!!"
 

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there was no way after the Rogers mess that we were going to put a high draft choice on another OT with a medical question mark. As I recall, its a neck thing- and its something that can happen at anytime; now, next week or not for 15 years. It was the right move with what was known at the time; you do recall how many first rd and second rd O linemen do not exactly shine.
 

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No use crying over spilt milk.....what's done is done.
 
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Not to say anything but Shaun Merriman has 15 sacks, that's pretty impressive ladies and gentleman.... I still think Ware is the best overall LB between the two but Merriman sure can get to the QB!
 

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The Chargers have Jammal Williams, who is by far and away the best 3-4 NG in the league. No other NG draws constant double teams and triple teams on passing plays and stunts as much and as effectively as Williams does. From there, they also have Luis Castillo who is an incredible DE who can also pass rush, almost like a Richard Seymour type. Overall Merriman is a good player, but he's really the 3rd best defensive player on the Chargers squad and he's not nearly as versatile as Ware. If we drafted Merriman instead of Ware, my guess is that his sacks would be around the same as Ware's right now because we simply don't have a Jammal Williams or Luis Castillo on defense.


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InmanRoshi;1255542 said:
And if his back blows out, you would have been saying "I can't believe we drafted another player with back problems !!!"

The Chargers were one of the few teams who really did their homework on this guy, and knew what they were getting. There's one thing signing an older player past his prime, or drafting a player who was known by just about everyone in scouting for not having a hunger for the game. That is just poor scouting. No way should we have ever taken Rogers. Here is a quote from PFW's 2004 Draft Guide: "Tends to coast in games and lacks passion. Not a consistent finisher. Intensity and passion for the game are concerns."

Man, when you read something like that from a draft guide, and then it all comes true, and then some, you realize somebody around here doesn't do their homework.
 

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The fact that hes 'blocking' for the best running back in the game helps a bit. LT could put up big numbers with anyone at tackle.
 

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And while we're at it, Kennedy shouldn't have gone to Dallas.
 

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bbgun;1255583 said:
And while we're at it, Kennedy shouldn't have gone to Dallas.

:laugh2:

btw, wouldn't the abominbal snowman be a more apt sig for you bbgun? lol
 
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summerisfunner;1255541 said:
I don't see how exactly LT is a problem, or our O struggling to be diverse and explosive

At the time of the draft, Pettiti was our RT, and Adams was recuperating from knee surgery. We definately had OT needs.
 

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Cogan;1255532 said:
Yes, Cowboys fans, you remember this past April in the second round of the 2006 draft. Our heros had the 49th pick, but decided to grab an extra pick from the Jets by trading down to #53. Mammoth All-American OT Marcus McNeil was sitting there for the taking at #49, but, after all, we didn't really need an athletic, quick & powerful offensive tackle at 6-8, 335 lbs. No, our strategy was to trade down 4 picks and take a back-up TE. The reason for this, we were told, was to find another quality TE to maximize our new two TE system.

Well, we're almost through the season, and I'm still waiting to see our vaunted 2 tight end system that was going to baffle defenses, and create mismatches all over the field.

Oh, as far as Mr. McNeil, he was taken with the very next pick (#50), by the SD Chargers. Surprise, huh? It is getting to be an aggrivating habit of the Bolts to wait for us to shoot ourselves in the foot, then take the player that would have benefited us most. Here is an excerpt on how Marcus McNeil has done so far this season:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9885399

Read it & weep.

Ah, the luxury of hindsite(20-20)

RCowboyFan;1255539 said:
Ok, but then we did pick up Marc Columbo, who has proven to be more than Ok, by last count. Heck he was legitimate Pro-bowl candidate this year. I don't see the big downside to that story.

Now, so far Marcus Spears vs Steriod Boy, whats his name Norwestern DT, that might be a different story, since that guy quietly has had a great two years.

Colombo makes me feel better about this. He got all my respect for being downright nasty when D'Angelo came in and Marc blasted him. A good fast project Colombo was... he is now paying dividends
 

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The Chargers were one of the few teams who really did their homework on this guy, and knew what they were getting.

The Chargers took a gamble with McNeill. He has a back condition that could very well end his career at any time. Every team knew this, especially the Chargers. They took the risk and it's worked out for them.

I remember when it was found out that Hatcher, despite never having any back injuries, had a narrow spinal column and people cried that "we drafted a guy with back problems."

In reality, we took far less of a risk by taking Hatcher than the Chargers did by taking McNeill, who not only has a back condition, but had back problems in college.

I think the main difference between McNeill and Rogers is McNeill never had reports about not wanting to play through injury whereas Rogers did, yet we took him anyway.

Still, I can see why Dallas and 31 other teams were averse to taking the guy in the 2nd round.



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Yakuza Rich;1255569 said:
The Chargers have Jammal Williams, who is by far and away the best 3-4 NG in the league. No other NG draws constant double teams and triple teams on passing plays and stunts as much and as effectively as Williams does. From there, they also have Luis Castillo who is an incredible DE who can also pass rush, almost like a Richard Seymour type. Overall Merriman is a good player, but he's really the 3rd best defensive player on the Chargers squad and he's not nearly as versatile as Ware. If we drafted Merriman instead of Ware, my guess is that his sacks would be around the same as Ware's right now because we simply don't have a Jammal Williams or Luis Castillo on defense.


YAKUZA

You shouldn't post such nonsense with reasoning, common sense, logic, and truth being such rare commodities around here. :rolleyes:


BTW, Merry Christmas.
 
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RCowboyFan;1255539 said:
Ok, but then we did pick up Marc Columbo, who has proven to be more than Ok, by last count. Heck he was legitimate Pro-bowl candidate this year. I don't see the big downside to that story.

Now, so far Marcus Spears vs Steriod Boy, whats his name Norwestern DT, that might be a different story, since that guy quietly has had a great two years.

We had no idea how Columbo would turn out, and Adams was recouping from knee surgery. Flo is still struggling, and would be on the bench if McNeil was on the team. Marcus will be Pro-Bowl material for years to come. FA is on the downside of his career, and is doubtful to ever get another free trip to Honolulu.
 
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