Any Hope for David Arkin?

[theogt]

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing and come away with completely different impressions.

I thought he got pushed back too easily ie no anchor. The plays that happened were abysmal.

OTOH, I saw him use leverage to get under guys and drive them out of the hole convincingly. I saw him pick up stunts. I saw his awareness when pass protecting when he was helping out guards. I did not see him allow guys to get through unblocked. They might ride him back there but he at least got in their way. That tells me he has his assignments down.

I don't think it's fair to describe his performance with a single adjective even if modified with adverbs.

Most people at the time thought he was terrible. He looked really, really, really bad. Like he shouldn't be in the NFL bad.

 

[reddyuta]

another 4th rd bust,nothing new here.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Most people at the time thought he was terrible. He looked really, really, really bad. Like he shouldn't be in the NFL bad.

:laugh2: Since when have you thought 'most people' were a good gauge of the truth? I have yet to get there.

 

[CoCo]

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing and come away with completely different impressions.

I thought he got pushed back too easily ie no anchor. The plays that happened were abysmal.

OTOH, I saw him use leverage to get under guys and drive them out of the hole convincingly. I saw him pick up stunts. I saw his awareness when pass protecting when he was helping out guards. I did not see him allow guys to get through unblocked. They might ride him back there but he at least got in their way. That tells me he has his assignments down.

I don't think it's fair to describe his performance with a single adjective even if modified with adverbs.

I get what you're saying, and I agree. If the guy can get some NFL strength, I'd be intrigued.

But he was so physically overmatched strength-wise that I wonder, no actually, I doubt, that he can successfully make that jump.

 

[theogt]

:laugh2: Since when have you thought 'most people' were a good gauge of the truth? I have yet to get there.

Just saying that opinions at the time were much more unified, because you pointed out that opinions can vary looking at the same thing. I think time can soften opinions, whether they were initially positive or negative.

Arkin could make a complete turnaround. Lots of players do. But he showed zero signs of being an NFL caliber player in preseason last year.

PS, I don't think he ever drove a single player out of the hole in preseason. I think you might be misremembering it.

 

[xwalker]

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing and come away with completely different impressions.

I thought he got pushed back too easily ie no anchor. The plays that happened were abysmal.

OTOH, I saw him use leverage to get under guys and drive them out of the hole convincingly. I saw him pick up stunts. I saw his awareness when pass protecting when he was helping out guards. I did not see him allow guys to get through unblocked. They might ride him back there but he at least got in their way. That tells me he has his assignments down.

I don't think it's fair to describe his performance with a single adjective even if modified with adverbs.

Good post.

 

[Blue Eyed Devil]

I have absolutely no clue why David Arkin is still on this team.

 

[Ratmatt]

Little hope,if any.

 

[Blue Eyed Devil]

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing and come away with completely different impressions.

I thought he got pushed back too easily ie no anchor. The plays that happened were abysmal.

OTOH, I saw him use leverage to get under guys and drive them out of the hole convincingly. I saw him pick up stunts. I saw his awareness when pass protecting when he was helping out guards. I did not see him allow guys to get through unblocked. They might ride him back there but he at least got in their way. That tells me he has his assignments down.

I don't think it's fair to describe his performance with a single adjective even if modified with adverbs.

I look at different things. I look at the fact that he was inactive all 16 games his rookie year despite the fact we were rolling in guys off the street and the fact he didn't play one snap last year. In camp he was apparently such a disappointment that the Cowboys had to trade for Ryan Cook, who was going to get cut by the Dolphins, just to keep Arkin off the field.

I don't know who said what at a press conference but the actions of the coaching staff scream as loudly as possible that they have zero confidence in this guy.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Most people at the time thought he was terrible. He looked really, really, really bad. Like he shouldn't be in the NFL bad.

To me it looked like he needed more time to get up to NFL strength. Remember, he's a "prospect". I don't get how people are so quick to write someone off after their 2nd year. We knew coming in he'd be a project that needed work.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

At this time last year, nearly every poster was calling Costa a terrible player. By the time the season came around, you'd think he was our best lineman after hearing these same posters call for his immediate return.

 

[ShiningStar]

At this time last year, nearly every poster was calling Costa a terrible player. By the time the season came around, you'd think he was our best lineman after hearing these same posters call for his immediate return.

its jsut back to "some fans cant be pleased either way"

btw tastes great

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

its jsut back to "some fans cant be pleased either way"

btw tastes great

Less filling. :laugh2:

 

[jjktkk]

Arkin has the athleticism, just needs to get stronger. Year 3 of developing prospects is here for him. A big year for him.

 

[arglebargle]

There's always hope, even if it's unfounded. Arkin either steps up this TC and preseason, or he'll be gone though.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Good post.

Why thank you, mang.

I look at different things. I look at the fact that he was inactive all 16 games his rookie year despite the fact we were rolling in guys off the street and the fact he didn't play one snap last year. In camp he was apparently such a disappointment that the Cowboys had to trade for Ryan Cook, who was going to get cut by the Dolphins, just to keep Arkin off the field.

I don't know who said what at a press conference but the actions of the coaching staff scream as loudly as possible that they have zero confidence in this guy.

I get what you are saying and please understand I am skeptical as to him being able to perform in the NFL. All I am saying is that he seemed to have the mental part of the game down and flashed some very good technique. For a guy that is as underpowered as he is to be able to use leverage (re: technique) and drive someone upfield several yards so the back can run through a hole shows me some promise.

He is flawed and where he is flawed will prevent him from being even a backup in the NFL. He doesn't have any power and gets overpowered by second stringers. Of course they are going to bring someone else in.

All I am saying is that if he can develop his strength, he brings other pluses to his game that would allow him some success in the NFL. If not then c'est la vie y bon voyage.

I am just trying to take the good with the bad.

 

[burmafrd]

That it is the offseason before OTA's?

wrong as usual

 

[burmafrd]

At this time last year, nearly every poster was calling Costa a terrible player. By the time the season came around, you'd think he was our best lineman after hearing these same posters call for his immediate return.

PT Barnum said it best- and it applies to those thinking Costa is ever going to be anything more than a fill in




"There is a sucker born every minute"

 

[burmafrd]

Arkin has the athleticism, just needs to get stronger. Year 3 of developing prospects is here for him. A big year for him.

its his lower body that needs the strength; and some people just cannot build enough.

Somehow the idea has become popular that you only need to spend a year or so in a NFL weight room and you will be as strong as you need.

News flash: some people just cannot do it.

This is it for Arkin; this camp. either he shows he can play or he is gone. The FACT that there has been nothing said about him from sources inside the Boys (Unlike all the others) tells its own tale

 

[gimmesix]

I thought aside from him being a bit weak for the NFL that he played pretty good in the preseason. Do any of you have a little hope in Arkin? I saw some things I liked last year. I know, I know Broaddus says he won't pan out. Am I the only one with hope for this guy?

I'm just not sure he can ever increase his power base to not get pushed around or aside.

Some players just can't get there, like Cory Proctor. I don't know if it's just something about their build (lack of a thick-enough lower body base), flexibility or what. I don't think it's a technique issue, just a body/strength issue.