Any names of interest so far...?

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tiller77 said:
he was hurt through most of his career at Bama good frame and size but i wouldn't pick him up

fred gibson might be worth a look a poor man's keyshawn. not as fast or physical as Key.

There are o-linemen who are probably faster than Key at this point in his career.
 

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Also noticed that Anttaj Hawethorne was cut by the Raiders.

What happened to this kid? Heading into the start of the last college season, he was being talked about as a sure fire first rounder. Come draft time, he slips all the way to 6th and now he doesn't even make the Raiders' squad.

Not suggesting we take a flyer on this kid, seeing as how we actually have depth on the DLine for a change...just saying ***?
 

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Hailmary said:
Also noticed that Anttaj Hawethorne was cut by the Raiders.

What happened to this kid? Heading into the start of the last college season, he was being talked about as a sure fire first rounder. Come draft time, he slips all the way to 6th and now he doesn't even make the Raiders' squad.

Not suggesting we take a flyer on this kid, seeing as how we actually have depth on the DLine for a change...just saying ***?

He tested positive for marijuana at the NFL combine. Has a lot of potential, no doubt some team will take a chance on him.

Raiders rookie is stand-up guy

By Steve Corkran, CONTRA COSTA TIMES
August 11, 2005

NAPA - Raiders defensive tackle Warren Sapp tested positive for marijuana at the NFL scouting combine in 1995 and watched his stock drop before the NFL draft.

Raiders rookie defensive tackle Anttaj Hawthorne got nailed for the same thing in February and dropped from a projected second-round selection into the sixth round.

Sapp to this day denies any wrongdoing and calls it a "lie." Hawthorne pleads guilty as charged, though he also plans to use the indiscretion as a motivating tool in making a name for himself in the NFL.

Sapp, 32, has channeled his anger into a tidy 10-year career that has yielded seven Pro Bowl selections and a Super Bowl ring. Hawthorne finds himself where Sapp was 10 years ago.

"It was my fault," Hawthorne said Wednesday. "It was my choice, and I messed up. Nobody did it to me. You have to be a man and take responsibility for what you do. I'm paying for it now."

Hawthorne was one of four players who tested positive for marijuana in February. The league notified all 32 NFL teams by letter. His stock plummeted.

He entered his senior season at Wisconsin as one of the top-rated defensive tackle in the nation. Badgers coach Barry Alvarez calls Hawthorne "the best defensive lineman I ever coached."

However, a dropoff in production in Hawthorne's senior season, as well as a so-so performance at the combine also factored into his going from a potential first-round selection to the 175th player taken overall.

That cost Hawthorne several million dollars. Still, the Raiders thought enough of Hawthorne after interviewing him that they drafted him in the sixth round and gave him a five-year contract that averages $386,000 per season.

He has been doing everything he can on and off the field to show he is a solid citizen and not the person who made a high-profile mistake.

"I've been trying to put that in the past and do things on the field, in the public, in the community, back home, out here, in Wisconsin, so people can really understand the kind of person I am, instead of just, 'He failed a drug test,'" Hawthorne said. "A lot of people might think I'm a drug addict, (like) I need it in my life. I've been working on cleaning my name up."

To that end, Sapp sought out Hawthorne to dispense advice on how best to handle the situation.

"Just being able to have someone to talk to about situations like that is a real bonus for me," Hawthorne said. "I appreciated everything he said to me. The words gave me confidence."

Sapp ought to know. Teams became wary of Sapp's character after he tested positive. He dropped from a sure-fire top-five selection to No. 12. He said he still feels the repercussions.

"I'm always the bad guy," Sapp said. "I've always been the bad guy. But that's OK. I know what I've done in this game, and I know what I do in the one-on-one basis. When I walked in this league, I had the biggest lie ever told on me."

Hawthorne benefits from landing with a team famous for investing in players that other teams deem too risky or of questionable character.

Raiders managing general partner Al Davis said as much Saturday, when he backed up wide receiver Randy Moss' statement that everything's fine, as long as we're winning.

"It has worked out great," Hawthorne said. "I've got a team that accepts me, it's allowing me to put my past behind me, and it's allowing me to move on with the rest of my life."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=knight-_WWW_SPRT_12356112&prov=knight&type=lgns
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark said:
Kicker Wade Richey, but I want of the kickers from Jax.

RB QGriffin would interest me if we didn't already have so much depth.

EDIT: Didn't know that France was already cut...go get him guys!!!

griffin sucks...barely had a decent year in DENVER once...however, i want france
 

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I can't imagine that Hawthorne got cut based on performance. I just wish I knew why he went from being the king of the hill to the bottom of the barrel.
 

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Jon said:
He tested positive for marijuana at the NFL combine. Has a lot of potential, no doubt some team will take a chance on him.
Some team already did. If he can't stick with the defense starved Raiders, where is he going to go?
 

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Kevin Dyson, WR Washington. If only he scored in that SB for Tennessee...
If only those idiots in Tennessee had taken Moss instead of Dyson. They didn't deserve to win the Superbowl for that reason alone. People may complain about Dallas passing on Moss, but they took the best player available at his position in Ellis.

They did not take a lesser talented receiver over Moss, like the Titans. That was IMO the single dumbest draft mistake in the history of the game. Everyone knew that Dyson was no where near the caliber of Randy Moss.
 

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That was a great moment in NFL history. It made up for the Music City Forward Lateral and didn't let Bud Adams have the pleasure of winning a SB :yourock:
Hey Yeager, I knew the oiler fans here in Houston hated Bud Adams, but I did not know he was despised in other areas as well.
 

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Hey Yeager, I knew the oiler fans here in Houston hated Bud Adams, but I did not know he was despised in other areas as well.
He screwed over the city of Memphis. He expected us to sellout the stadium every game even though they never did any promotions in Memphis. They showed up on game day and left right after. He also wanted Memphis to pay the teams travel expenses. He made us look very bad and killed any chance of ever getting our own team.
 

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I see that Craphonso Thorpe was released.

Might be worthwhile to pick him up for the PS, let him get in the weightroom in the offseason and put some meat on that rail thin body of his. He has ability, might be a worthwhile project that can pay off in a couple of years.
 

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Hailmary said:
Also noticed that Anttaj Hawethorne was cut by the Raiders.

What happened to this kid? Heading into the start of the last college season, he was being talked about as a sure fire first rounder. Come draft time, he slips all the way to 6th and now he doesn't even make the Raiders' squad.

Not suggesting we take a flyer on this kid, seeing as how we actually have depth on the DLine for a change...just saying ***?


Antajj was flat out CUT. I moved him down my board after watching him late in season - he did nothing out there.

what a flop - let Arizona or the Commanders get him.
 

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Yeagermeister said:
Jamar Martin - Another Cowboy cut. Hardnose FB who was limited to just great blocking.


Come on Bill we need a real fb

WOW, Jamar was let go!??? Man I wish we could right that wrong... I don't think Dallas would have room for him now... Dude if I was OC I'd get him... That boy was a hammer... a BIGGUN. Not really much of a ball carrier, but I remember him in the preseason game last year against KC... he flat out blew up a linebacker who then proceeded to fall into 2 (TWO) other red jerseys and then they all fell over.

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WOW, Jamar was let go!??? Man I wish we could right that wrong... I don't think Dallas would have room for him now... Dude if I was OC I'd get him... That boy was a hammer... a BIGGUN. Not really much of a ball carrier, but I remember him in the preseason game last year against KC... he flat out blew up a linebacker who then proceeded to fall into 2 (TWO) other red jerseys and then they all fell over.

:bang2:

Wow. Jamar Martin. When are folks going to let that one go? Jamar was a great blocker when he managed to hit someone at all. He wasn't so hot at recognizing who to block, he can't run the ball, not very good on special teams, and he couldn't catch a cold.
 

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Wow. Jamar Martin. When are folks going to let that one go? Jamar was a great blocker when he managed to hit someone at all. He wasn't so hot at recognizing who to block, he can't run the ball, not very good on special teams, and he couldn't catch a cold.


WOWIE, geez a pessimist, in this bunch?!!

I guess you remember our dominating offensive lines during that era as well, plus the magical rotating offensive schemes that Squincy so thrived in. :confused:
 

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I'd like to see us bring in TE Teyo Johnson, cut by the Raiders.

WR in a TEs body. This is a guy I'd like to see brought in too. Don't know how we could though. He isn't better than Pierce and doesn't really help as much on the field as T.Copper. He'd be more for development. Former 2nd rounder.

6-6/250 guys who can run like him are not found easily.

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Clifton Smith, formerly of the Skins and Syracuse, is a guy who might find his way here. Always seemed to me to be more of a 3-4 ILB. Paul Pasqualoni coached him at SU. 6-3/255. That said, it's not like the Skins have a lot of talent at MLB. With Smith and McCune both cut, and losing last year's starter to the Giants, it's not a good sign.
 

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Denver - RB quentin griffin, DT dorsett davis

KC - WR craphonso thorpe

NE - WR david terrell

OAK - DT antaj hawthorne

PITT - WR fred gibson

TB - OT derrick deese, S matt groetegoed

WASH - WR kevin dyson
 
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