Any rumors with respect to our new DC?

[Woods]

Now that the Senior Bowl is over, and various options must have been discussed at length, perhaps a decision is closer to being made.

It appears that Herring is still with the team as well (for now, at least).

 

[Hostile]

Herring is staying. Oklahoma State hired a coach from Miami to be their DC.

My source at Oklahoma State said they are not sure why Herring waffled after his name surfaced.

I speculated that meant he was likely being offered the DC job here. The Campo rumors were pure stir up crap reports. Campo has 1 year of experience in a 3-4 and it isn't working with LBs and D-line.

I believe it will come down to him and Greg Manusky if we can pry him away from the 49ers.

 

[Hostile]

Forget Jim Bates as a candidate. He's landing in Tampa.

Adam Schefter
Morris hires Bates as Bucs’ defensive coordinator

New Buccaneers head coach Raheem Morris has been compared to the Steelers’ Mike Tomlin. Now Morris’ first significant hire is the kind that Tomlin has.

Just as Tomlin has been able to lean on veteran defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau, Morris now can do the same with his defensive coordinator, Jim Bates.

Morris hired Bates on Thursday, giving Tampa Bay’s coaching staff the type of veteran presence it needs. Bates is the former Broncos and Dolphins defensive coordinator who temporarily served as Miami’s head coach.

Many names had been speculated on as Tampa Bay’s defensive coordinator, but Bates was the man the Bucs wanted all along. Thursday, they got their man.

 

[lqmac1]

What the hell does Tampa's DC have to do with this article

 

[Hostile]

Forget Jim Bates as a candidate. He's landing in Tampa.

Adam Schefter
Morris hires Bates as Bucs’ defensive coordinator

New Buccaneers head coach Raheem Morris has been compared to the Steelers’ Mike Tomlin. Now Morris’ first significant hire is the kind that Tomlin has.

Just as Tomlin has been able to lean on veteran defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau, Morris now can do the same with his defensive coordinator, Jim Bates.

Morris hired Bates on Thursday, giving Tampa Bay’s coaching staff the type of veteran presence it needs. Bates is the former Broncos and Dolphins defensive coordinator who temporarily served as Miami’s head coach.

Many names had been speculated on as Tampa Bay’s defensive coordinator, but Bates was the man the Bucs wanted all along. Thursday, they got their man.

What the hell does Tampa's DC have to do with this article

Bates name was mentioned here. Several times.

 

[ctrous25]

Bates name was mentioned here. Several times.

was he a guy that was used to the 3-4 D?

 

[Hostile]

was he a guy that was used to the 3-4 D?

More of a 4-3 guy, but when has that ever stopped fans form recognizing the name of a former coach?

I like Jim Bates and think he could coach 3-4, because his specialty is LBs.

 

[ctrous25]

More of a 4-3 guy, but when has that ever stopped fans form recognizing the name of a former coach?

I like Jim Bates and think he could coach 3-4, because his specialty is LBs.

So what your saying is hes an upgrade from Brian Stewart?:laugh2:

 

[Paniolo22]

So what your saying is hes an upgrade from Brian Stewart?:laugh2:

Donald Duck would be an upgrade from BS.

 

[slick325]

I want Wade to retain defensive playcalling duties. Like an article in the Zone said earlier, it is not uncommon for offensive minded coaches to call the plays (Reid, Gruden, Shanahan, Holmgren and Zorn), therefore, what is the problem with Wade doing it himself?

If he needs to hire someone to have the title in name only, then it doesn't make sense. They have enough former defensive coordinators on staff to ease Wade's burden in planning for each opponent.

What does he have to lose? He is in a contract year and probably won't be back even with a SB victory. I think he should go all out this season.

Wade should be the DC.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Now that the Senior Bowl is over, and various options must have been discussed at length, perhaps a decision is closer to being made.

It appears that Herring is still with the team as well (for now, at least).

Our DC is already in house.

 

[Hostile]

I want Wade to retain defensive playcalling duties. Like an article in the Zone said earlier, it is not uncommon for offensive minded coaches to call the plays (Reid, Gruden, Shanahan, Holmgren and Zorn), therefore, what is the problem with Wade doing it himself?

If he needs to hire someone to have the title in name only, then it doesn't make sense. They have enough former defensive coordinators on staff to ease Wade's burden in planning for each opponent.

What does he have to lose? He is in a contract year and probably won't be back even with a SB victory. I think he should go all out this season.

Wade should be the DC.

I don't want him to. I want a solid choice at DC in case we need to fire Wade mid season and hire Shanahan. I'd rather cover our bases than say "well, we can't fire him because we'd have no one to call the Defense."

Get me a DC.

 

[skinsscalper]

I don't want him to. I want a solid choice at DC in case we need to fire Wade mid season and hire Shanahan. I'd rather cover our bases than say "well, we can't fire him because we'd have no one to call the Defense."

Get me a DC.

If Wade gets fired mid-season, Shanahan won't be coming in until the following year anyway. If Jerry goes with Wade to start the year, I believe, Wade will be here until the end of the year.

IF Wade got fired mid-season, Campo no doubt, would take over the play-calling duties.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

If Wade gets fired mid-season, Shanahan won't be coming in until the following year anyway. If Jerry goes with Wade to start the year, I believe, Wade will be here until the end of the year.

IF Wade got fired mid-season, Campo no doubt, would take over the play-calling duties.

Just one question.

When Campo "no doubt" takes over... at midseason are we at 5 wins already or is that his goal ultimately.







:laugh2:

"No doubt"....."Oh Eddie, you so crazy"

 

[Hostile]

If Wade gets fired mid-season, Shanahan won't be coming in until the following year anyway. If Jerry goes with Wade to start the year, I believe, Wade will be here until the end of the year.

IF Wade got fired mid-season, Campo no doubt, would take over the play-calling duties.

You just made my point for me.

Get a DC.

 

[skinsscalper]

You just made my point for me.

Get a DC.

I'm not sure just any DC we bring in is going to be any better than Campo. Campo was actually an outstanding DC for us. That guy got more out of nothing than I've seen out of anyone. I think Garrett would be named interim head coach and Shanahan would be looking for real estate in Texas.

 

[Hostile]

I'm not sure just any DC we bring in is going to be any better than Campo. Campo was actually an outstanding DC for us. That guy got more out of nothing than I've seen out of anyone. I think Garrett would be named interim head coach and Shanahan would be looking for real estate in Texas.

Campo has never called plays in a 3-4 scheme.

 

[Woods]

Herring is staying. Oklahoma State hired a coach from Miami to be their DC.

My source at Oklahoma State said they are not sure why Herring waffled after his name surfaced.

I speculated that meant he was likely being offered the DC job here. The Campo rumors were pure stir up crap reports. Campo has 1 year of experience in a 3-4 and it isn't working with LBs and D-line.

I believe it will come down to him and Greg Manusky if we can pry him away from the 49ers.

Thanks, Hos.

I also want a competent DC running Wade's style of defense.

Plus, as the HC, Wade needs to run the team like a HEAD coach. He's got to be able to have time to focus on the bigger picture of coaching all facets of the team.

 

[skinsscalper]

Campo has never called plays in a 3-4 scheme.

Yeah, I get that angle, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't understand pressure or defense entirely. The whole 3-4, 4-3 debate didn't preclude Jim Bates from many people's list either. I'm not saying that Campo is our best option, I'm just saying that any Joe Schmoe that we bring in wouldn't be calling the plays either unless Wade gets fired mid-season (which I don't see happening) and there's no guarantee that the guy we bring in has ever had any experience calling plays in a 3-4 defense either, let alone Wade's 3-4.

The well is a little dry at 3-4 masterminds at this point.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, I get that angle, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't understand pressure or defense entirely. The whole 3-4, 4-3 debate didn't preclude Jim Bates from many people's list either. I'm not saying that Campo is our best option, I'm just saying that any Joe Schmoe that we bring in wouldn't be calling the plays either unless Wade gets fired mid-season (which I don't see happening) and there's no guarantee that the guy we bring in has ever had any experience calling plays in a 3-4 defense either, let alone Wade's 3-4.

The well is a little dry at 3-4 masterminds at this point.

Which is why I said Reggie Herring or Greg Manusky. I'd love to have Manusky. I wanted him to come with Wade from that staff.