Any trade options out there for dline help?

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This type of trade would never happen and even if it was possible, I would be against it. I am typically against trades in season...especially big names. Although what if the Dolphins wanted to go total rebuild and offered Suh for a 2017 first and a 2018 fourth. Any interest?
 
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chicago JK said:
This type of trade would never happen and even if it was possible, I would be against it. I am typically against trades in season...especially big names. Although what if the Dolphins wanted to go total rebuild and offered Suh for a 2017 first and a 2018 fourth. Any interest?
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Nope. We need DEs and Suh has completely underwhelmed in Miami and so has Mario Williams (which half of the board experts around here said we should have been hot on the trail of in the off-season).
 
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These trades rarely happen in the NFL because the salary cap mechanics make it very tough and most players who don't attend training camp are well behind in scheme knowledge.

DL are a prized commodity and have more value than what we have to offer.
Our best potential trade-able asset (and the ONLY one that'd net a stud DL) would be Tony Romo but we don't currently have the cap room to trade him.
But if they figured that out Sheldon Richardson for Tony Romo is the Madden type trade that helps both teams big-time.
 
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jterrell said:
These trades rarely happen in the NFL because the salary cap mechanics make it very tough and most players who don't attend training camp are well behind in scheme knowledge.

DL are a prized commodity and have more value than what we have to offer.
Our best potential trade-able asset (and the ONLY one that'd net a stud DL) would be Tony Romo but we don't currently have the cap room to trade him.
But if they figured that out Sheldon Richardson for Tony Romo is the Madden type trade that helps both teams big-time.
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That is not how it works........the big cap hit would be next year....19m but that is still saving 5m over his scheduled hit if he stays....we would save money trading Romo's 8m salary for Richardson's 2m
 
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That is not how it works........the big cap hit would be next year....19m but that is still saving 5m over his scheduled hit if he stays....we would save money trading Romo's 8m salary for Richardson's 2m
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that's sorta correct...
it does act as a post june 1st cut with 20m in (dead money) hitting next year's cap (but a refund of his scheduled 14m salary next year so you lose a net of 6m in dead money but get him totally off the books in one fell swoop and at 4.7m less than to keep him provided he didn't just restrucure again next year like oh every other year). --anyone suggesting it's worth trading/cutting tony to gain 4.7m would be insane of course so it's the trade return that has to make it worthwhile.

the issue of course is you've already eaten most of tony's money for this year the day it was guaranteed.
so you eat his bonus, option bonus and restructure money for the entire season... and his prorated salary up to this point.
if the contract contains no clauses or trade provisions you COULD gain cash on the exchange of players. possibly up to 4.5m.
but you are going to eat 12m plus the 25% of his 8.5m regardless so you would be paying 14.125m for Tony this year to do nothing and another 1.3m for Richardson.
and to be clear players like tony usually have provisions that either make trading them impossible (no trade clause)or reward them financially immediately(via trade kicker) to do so.
 
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jterrell said:
that's sorta correct...
it does act as a post june 1st cut with 20m in (dead money) hitting next year's cap (but a refund of his scheduled 14m salary next year so you lose a net of 6m in dead money but get him totally off the books in one fell swoop and at 4.7m less than to keep him provided he didn't just restrucure again next year like oh every other year). --anyone suggesting it's worth trading/cutting tony to gain 4.7m would be insane of course so it's the trade return that has to make it worthwhile.

the issue of course is you've already eaten most of tony's money for this year the day it was guaranteed.
so you eat his bonus, option bonus and restructure money for the entire season... and his prorated salary up to this point.
if the contract contains no clauses or trade provisions you COULD gain cash on the exchange of players. possibly up to 4.5m.
but you are going to eat 12m plus the 25% of his 8.5m regardless so you would be paying 14.125m for Tony this year to do nothing and another 1.3m for Richardson.
and to be clear players like tony usually have provisions that either make trading them impossible (no trade clause)or reward them financially immediately(via trade kicker) to do so.
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But those are all sunk costs......the bottom line is DAL would gain 3m in cap space this year with that particular trade.....add that to the almost 9m already under and they could roll over 11m+ to next year......that would help mitigate Romo's 19m dead money hit and Richardson's 8m salary

Also it isn't just saving 5 next year on Romo....it is saving 25m in 2018 and 24m in 2019
 
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