Anyone got a problem with Murray as an Eagle?

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I don't have any problem with him being an eagle. It's his problem now. lol

His problem is going to be about how to run against the Cowboys this coming season. Hey, he learned football in Texas. Now other teams want him. They must think that he can do the same things he did with the Cowboys.

Good luck!
 

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Liked him as a cowboy. Would have been happy to have him back at the right price. He is no longer a cowboy but instead an eagle. He is now the enemy and will be treated as such by me

Well said. I concur!
 

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Does anybody have a problem with the Dallas Cowboys all-time single season rushing leader ... being a Philadelphia Eagle?

I wish it was still Emmitt.

Not in the least. I particularly like the part where they over-spent for him and jeopardized their long-term ability to acquire talent under the cap. Now if he could just fall off a cliff in terms of production, that would make this whole scenario priceless.
 

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He thinks he can just march over there in enemy territory and claim its a great chance for a Superbowl??? Oh there's a problem. His, not mine.
 
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My problem is simple. Not only did Stephen Jones allow Murray to walk because he ignored the window is now. But this also gives Chip Kelly the ball control running game which will keep his leads and move away from the passing game as Dallas did. Kelly's Eagles will get a lead and then maintain it by keeping their defense off the field.

This was perhaps the stupidest move I have ever seen outside of the trade for Roy Williams.
 

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My problem is simple. Not only did Stephen Jones allow Murray to walk because he ignored the window is now. But this also gives Chip Kelly the ball control running game which will keep his leads and move away from the passing game as Dallas did. Kelly's Eagles will get a lead and then maintain it by keeping their defense off the field.

This was perhaps the stupidest move I have ever seen outside of the trade for Roy Williams.

Valid points here but losing McCoy, Maclin, and having Bradford as their QB going forward poses more question marks as to how they are going to score points in the 1st place.

I know you wanted to keep Murray at all costs, but the facts say that he wasn't going to produce another 1800+ yd season and $8M+ / yr is an expensive way to find out.
 

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Valid points here but losing McCoy, Maclin, and having Bradford as their QB going forward poses more question marks as to how they are going to score points in the 1st place.

I know you wanted to keep Murray at all costs, but the facts say that he wasn't going to produce another 1800+ yd season and $8M+ / yr is an expensive way to find out.

Of all the people on this board I would think you'd understand this was 48% of the offensive production. Murray ran the ball over 370 times and Romo threw the ball 420 times. The offense produced 29 PPG with this running attack.

There are no facts Murray would have a drop off. The likelihood is great, but that doesn't make them facts. But what is a fact is Murray, more than Romo, is what caused the defense to sit while the offense ate the clock.

Now factor in this team is going nowhere without Romo and his skill set, yet also needs for Romo to not have to carry the entire load, and this comes down to the running game being a major part of this offense going forward in the window of opportunity available.

Romo has three years of top quality play.

Grooming a rookie to learn to block takes time. So drop one of the three years. Maybe two.

So you have a choice to make. Maintain the offense, and try and improve the defense enough to get to the NFC Championship game.

Or lose Murray and his production, and bring in McFadden, which isn't an answer and a rookie - which now means drafting a RB high instead of defense.

There was an article about losing Murray where the author tried to make the case this was a good deal because now the team can draft for defensive depth.

Depth? So toss out the top running back of 2014 for defensive depth.

That is like spending twelve draft picks on what is termed a special teams draft.

The window is now. Not two years from now. The cap can be damned because this was push your chips in the middle of the table. And if that isn't enough, you just gave the Eagles a component they didn't have before. Their offense needs someone better than Sanchez and Bradford could very well manage a game enough for Murray to come in as the closer once a lead is captured.

This was a foolish move in many ways, and it was precipitated because of foolish moves made in the past for guys like Claiborn, Carr, Spenser, and other players who were not top flight but paid like it.

This team lost Murray because they didn't have the cap space because the team has been mismanaged for so long. And now when they should risk, they elect to not risk because they have been burned by bad decisions.

Romo is way overpaid, but you do that because he is central for any hope. Murray is the same type player in this exact circumstance. And perhaps even more than Dez.

Stoopid is as stoopid does and the acorn (Stephen) hasn't fallen far from the tree (Jerry.)
 

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Of all the people on this board I would think you'd understand this was 48% of the offensive production. Murray ran the ball over 370 times and Romo threw the ball 420 times. The offense produced 29 PPG with this running attack.

I know that losing Murray stings but at the same time I had a distinct feeling that Murray wouldn't be back after this season and the amount of touches he was given. In 2009, the Cowboys used a 3 back attack and gained 1966 yds from those 3 combined. It appears that this season is headed that same route.
There are no facts Murray would have a drop off. The likelihood is great, but that doesn't make them facts. But what is a fact is Murray, more than Romo, is what caused the defense to sit while the offense ate the clock.

Murray was not going to repeat that 1800 yd performance, and that can't be stated enough. And while teams did stack the box because of the run game, the same thing will happen when whoever is toting the rock is getting yards and moving the chains. This has always been about the big uglies, so as long as they remain healthy they will be blowing defenders backwards.


Now factor in this team is going nowhere without Romo and his skill set, yet also needs for Romo to not have to carry the entire load, and this comes down to the running game being a major part of this offense going forward in the window of opportunity available.

I've heard multiple times that the team is not going to get away from the run game...before Murray left for the Eagles. It's going to help the defense and it's going to help Romo.

Romo has three years of top quality play.

Grooming a rookie to learn to block takes time. So drop one of the three years. Maybe two.

So you have a choice to make. Maintain the offense, and try and improve the defense enough to get to the NFC Championship game.

Or lose Murray and his production, and bring in McFadden, which isn't an answer and a rookie - which now means drafting a RB high instead of defense.

I'm also looking at a healthier Tony Romo who will be at OTAs for the first time in 2 years. I'm taking that as a good sign that his back is holding up and is repsonding to his rehab routines. The choice was always about money for both parties and it always has been. But maintaining the offense would have cost you at the expense of bringing in defensive players.

There was an article about losing Murray where the author tried to make the case this was a good deal because now the team can draft for defensive depth.

Depth? So toss out the top running back of 2014 for defensive depth.

That is like spending twelve draft picks on what is termed a special teams draft.

The window is now. Not two years from now. The cap can be damned because this was push your chips in the middle of the table. And if that isn't enough, you just gave the Eagles a component they didn't have before. Their offense needs someone better than Sanchez and Bradford could very well manage a game enough for Murray to come in as the closer once a lead is captured.

This was a foolish move in many ways, and it was precipitated because of foolish moves made in the past for guys like Claiborn, Carr, Spenser, and other players who were not top flight but paid like it.

This team lost Murray because they didn't have the cap space because the team has been mismanaged for so long. And now when they should risk, they elect to not risk because they have been burned by bad decisions.

Romo is way overpaid, but you do that because he is central for any hope. Murray is the same type player in this exact circumstance. And perhaps even more than Dez.

Stoopid is as stoopid does and the acorn (Stephen) hasn't fallen far from the tree (Jerry.)

McFadden is not here to give this team 1800 yds, heck his contract is really only a $3M total deal for 2 yrs. IF he were to get above 1000 yds then he starts to earn the incentives.

This is the time when the team is trying to build the roster and until all 90 players report to OTAs/minicamp I'm going to sit back and see what the plan is.
 

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My problem is simple. Not only did Stephen Jones allow Murray to walk because he ignored the window is now.

Or possibly because he didn't want to pay a very good RB HOF kind of money? Murray isn't worth what the Eagles are giving him.
This team lost Murray because they didn't have the cap space
We could have created the cap space if we wanted to so we could keep Murray. Clearly we didn't want to. But to say by not having the cap space is the reason we didn't sign Murray is incorrect. We could have kept all the players we lost if we wanted to.
 

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Clearly then they have outfoxed themselves. Being too cleaver seems to haunt this franchise over and over.

With our O-Line, .. with Linehan's commitment to the run game, .. and a passing game that every defense has to fear, ... do you think that Murray is the only RB in the NFL that could succeed here?

Murray was great last year, .. I am a fan of Murray, .. but there are other RB's that can be successful here.
 

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Does anybody have a problem with the Dallas Cowboys all-time single season rushing leader ... being a Philadelphia Eagle?

I wish it was still Emmitt.
He got paid just as each of us would have done. Good for him. I liked Murray and wish he was still a Cowboy but business in the nfl is business and that is the bottom line. I hate he is a Eagle or even in the NFC East. I was hoping Jacksonville or Oakland would have been his destination of choice. We just have to prepare for him when we play them, we should have insights to his tendencies and weaknesses I would assume so we should be ok their too.
 

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He had one very good year and felt that he had to strike while the iron was hot, so I don't blame him. Go get the money while you can. I personally would never go to Philly, my hatred for them outweighs my need for money. I would not go to the Skins either. However, I would consider the Giants, since that is where Tom Landry got his start.

So thank you for your time Murray and last year. I wish you nothing but the worst.....years of misery, fumbles, and losing. You are now a scumbag Eagle, and I can root against you once more, the way I did when you were a scumbag Sooner.
 

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To answer the topic...yes.

I feel Murray is a good person, goes about things the right way and I understand the business side of this situation. I get it. Totally get it.

I thank him for a great season last year and the previous years. It was great to watch.

That being said, he's an Eagle. That is something I cannot tolerate. He now plays for a franchise that I have genuine hate for. Genuine hate in sports is a good thing and I long for the days where it was more consistent in all the major sports.

When it comes to Murray now being an Eagle all I can think of are the lines that Chris Penn says to Mr. White in the movie Reservoir Dogs when they're in the triangular shoot out scene just before the guns go off. I'm sorry if that is inappropriate but that's how I feel.
 

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do you think that Murray is the only RB in the NFL that could succeed here?.

No, I don't. But I think he is the best running back by a large margin versus cast offs, the formerly arrested, small fast guys, draft picks, and a once great running back with off field issues and is over 30.
 
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