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Apollo Creed;3095556 said:
I totally agreed with letting him go, but allow be to play devil's advocate for a second.

When he was on our roster we went 13-3, he put up monster stats, Witten also had huge seasons with Owens running off defenders, defenses constantly had to double team him, and he opened up things for us offensively.

Can't say that Roy draws any special attention, only thing he draws is the teams 2nd best corner and man coverage.

Thank you for being honest although you agreed with the move. People fail to realize we lost Wittens probowl numbers with that move as well.
 

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cowboyjoe;3095526 said:
He is right about one thing; the cowboys need a speedy wr that can stretch the defense, forcing teams to double team him. Roy Williams isnt getting that done. And Austin hasnt if you go back and look at games this year, austin hasnt caught many big balls in the first half.

Maybe if we were to actually take a shot or two downfield it would help. Austin is faster than TO and Williams is as fast.
 

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Givincer;3095533 said:
Why is it ridiculous to assert that if we had Owens still our offense would be better than it is now?

Honestly?

Is anyone actually willing to argue we have a receiver who is truly better than Owens on the team?

I said at the time that getting rid of Owens was probably the single dumbest personnel move Jones has ever made. That is, needlessly depriving yourself of top talent, and paying more to do it, nonetheless. So, essentially, we had to pay in cap space to cut a top talent, yet did it anyway. Truly amazing.

so where was your MOUTH when owens was putting up 0's during the game?

amazing the owens crowd only shows up when owens does. isn't that called an "entourage"?
 

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iceberg;3095829 said:
so where was your MOUTH when owens was putting up 0's during the game?

amazing the owens crowd only shows up when owens does. isn't that called an "entourage"?


I was right here. Why don't you ask where Zrinkill and his posse are at? When TO was struggling they were loud and proud. I don't wanna hear that, "he's not on the team stop talking about him" BS! Stay consistent.
 

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stilltheguru;3095910 said:
I was right here. Why don't you ask where Zrinkill and his posse are at? When TO was struggling they were loud and proud. I don't wanna hear that, "he's not on the team stop talking about him" BS! Stay consistent.

He is gone...let it go agenda boy.
 

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stilltheguru;3095910 said:
I was right here. Why don't you ask where Zrinkill and his posse are at? When TO was struggling they were loud and proud. I don't wanna hear that, "he's not on the team stop talking about him" BS! Stay consistent.

i don't have to ask zrin. i've known him for around a decade at this point.

TO isn't on the cowboys.
he never will be again.

if roy williams does nothing else for this team i thank him for that.

offense isn't our problem right now, our OL and stupid penalties is.

but sure, TO can save the day cause ... oh hell i don't know why but i'm sure his entourage does.
 

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Dukes is the worst thing on the Network. Argumentative, hard-headed color guy. I wish Woodson would whip his butt.

Who'd he play for again?
 

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I have been a supporter of RW, and thought he would improve. I am beginning to doubt whether he can play WR at a high level.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3095921 said:
He is gone...let it go agenda boy.



I have an agenda because last year when TO and Roy were on the team I still said Roy was horrible.:rolleyes: Whatever guy.
 

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stilltheguru;3095936 said:
I have an agenda because last year when TO and Roy were on the team I still said Roy was horrible.:rolleyes: Whatever guy.

so? it's not like you were alone and making a revalation that for some reason you need to pat yourself on the back publically time and time and time and time again.
 

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stilltheguru;3095936 said:
I have an agenda because last year when TO and Roy were on the team I still said Roy was horrible.:rolleyes: Whatever guy.

:laugh2: Yes but you are still on this lame reasoning logic that if anyone does not like TO than they must think Roy Will is great.

You can have a sucky wr like Roy Williams and not like it yet STILL be happy TO is no longer a cowboy and realize TO is on the downside of is career.

You can do that, if you are not an agenda or TO fan boy.

Seriously, I would think someone who uses the name StilltheGURU you would understand something this simple...apparently not.
 

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iceberg;3095943 said:
so? it's not like you were alone and making a revalation that for some reason you need to pat yourself on the back publically time and time and time and time again.



I'm a Cowboy fan and it angers me that people like Roy Williams are on the team. Freedom of speech is beautiful. He hasn't done anything in his time in Dallas to even TRY to make me switch my stance on him.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3095945 said:
:laugh2: Yes but you are still on this lame reasoning logic that if anyone does not like TO than they must think Roy Will is great.

You can have a sucky wr like Roy Williams and not like it yet STILL be happy TO is no longer a cowboy and realize TO is on the downside of is career.

You can do that, if you are not an agenda or TO fan boy.

Seriously, I would think someone who uses the name StilltheGURU you would understand something this simple...apparently not.

he has the name to remind himself, not us.
 

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iceberg;3095943 said:
so? it's not like you were alone and making a revalation that for some reason you need to pat yourself on the back publically time and time and time and time again.

Lame logic on his part...that whole you are with us or against us so if you are against us you must be with the Roy Williams love crowd or some idiotic thing.

Who knows, when you get into these agenda driven pat yourself on the back (for what I don't know) modes you tend to lose all logic.

That is his problem.
 

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stilltheguru;3095952 said:
I'm a Cowboy fan and it angers me that people like Roy Williams are on the team. Freedom of speech is beautiful. He hasn't done anything in his time in Dallas to even TRY to make me switch my stance on him.

i'm a cowboys fan also.
but i can't control who is on the team so i control my emotions.
freedom of speech is a wonderful thing - you saying i can't dog you dogging williams? but come on - it's freedom of speech!

try and make me quit. easiest way to get me to stop bagging on your for bagging on williams is to quit it. you wanna claim freedom of speech, great. i'll take that too and keep on.
 

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Thursday against the Raiders is a perfect time for Garrett to see what Ogletree can do. Hopefully we dust off the gameplan binder from the Seattle game.
 

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iceberg;3095957 said:
i'm a cowboys fan also.
but i can't control who is on the team so i control my emotions.
freedom of speech is a wonderful thing - you saying i can't dog you dogging williams? but come on - it's freedom of speech!

try and make me quit. easiest way to get me to stop bagging on your for bagging on williams is to quit it. you wanna claim freedom of speech, great. i'll take that too and keep on.

I don't even care if he bags on Williams, heck williams deserves to be bagged on because he has been a failure with Dallas thus far.

The part that irritates me is these rants about TO this and TO that and that does NOTHING for this team right now.

Boohoo TO is gone...well maybe if he was not such a toolbag and he did better he would still be here.

If they want to rag about TO not being here, go to TO's website and rag on him for getting himself removed from being a cowboy.
 

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iceberg;3095957 said:
i'm a cowboys fan also.
but i can't control who is on the team so i control my emotions.
freedom of speech is a wonderful thing - you saying i can't dog you dogging williams? but come on - it's freedom of speech!

try and make me quit. easiest way to get me to stop bagging on your for bagging on williams is to quit it. you wanna claim freedom of speech, great. i'll take that too and keep on.


My emotions are just fine. I bag on guys with no heart or mental toughness. Roy has neither. He is the worst player of the starting 22. It's pretty sad when every former Cowboy ****s on you.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3095970 said:
I don't even care if he bags on Williams, heck williams deserves to be bagged on because he has been a failure with Dallas thus far.

The part that irritates me is these rants about TO this and TO that and that does NOTHING for this team right now.

Boohoo TO is gone...well maybe if he was not such a toolbag and he did better he would still be here.

If they want to rag about TO not being here, go to TO's website and rag on him for getting himself removed from being a cowboy.

can't totally argue with you there. i was "ok" with signing roy but like many don't think he's come close to his hype. i'd not care if he left tomorrow and we sucked it up and tried to work it out without him.

i just get sick and tired of the lock-jawed, tunnellvisioned "fans" we have that want what they want over the team itself. just not a good team unless jones does things THEIR way.
 

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stilltheguru;3095974 said:
My emotions are just fine. I bag on guys with no heart or mental toughness. Roy has neither. He is the worst player of the starting 22. It's pretty sad when every former Cowboy ****s on you.

every former cowboy?

isn't that a tad of a stretch? some can't cause they're dead, ya know?

and if your emotions were fine, you'd not get so wrapped up in a game you can't control.

you remind me of the whiner giants fan who cries after the pitt spanking. he looked in control also.
 
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