Draftbreakdown will show you all his snaps, good and bad. Watching his 2015 he didn't always hustle and wasn't always engaged, but I think that was because teams avoided him like the plague and he became complacent.
Remember after the draft last year when our love of Gregory's game shot up after some random internet guy told you why his stats were not gaudy? Those same read-and-react, team-play elements are all over Bosa's 2015 tape. Hopefully Bosa isn't near the knucklehead Gregory is and will help to solidify one of the most pathetic fronts in the NFL.
Studied him a lot. I want to believe. But you look at that talent around him, it is hard.
Sometimes we forget these are individuals inserted into another team and environment.
When Bosa had Bennett and Spence on the line with him and actually got a decent amount of isolations, he had 15 sacks and 5 FF. With Bennett and Spence gone, teams would double and triple team him. Smaller schools would do it from the start. Teams would bring over extra tackles. All kinds of games to try and slow him down. He was not able to finish as often but he was still getting consistent pressure.
He's not like DLaw, Gregory and the other DE that have to grow into the position or a neophyte like Ansah. If he does grow, he could be a monster. He is only 20.
And that is what happens when teams scheme for good players.
Nobody is assuming that Bosa was a mirage at the college level.
He was impressive, dominant at times.
I have said it before, I think his upside is minimal. Others have said the same and I agree.
It is frustrating to have this choice and still feel the need to nitpick.
People remember that it was the running game that got us to 12-4 so they like to reinvent that. However, they forgot it was the DL play that lost the Packer game. We couldn't touch a one legged Aaron Rodgers.
People also somehow forget that during that historic run for the first 9 games, Romo was converting 3rd and 8+ at an all time record pct, over 50%. Those were NOT 3rd ands shorts like everyone thinks they remember.
Do you think Tony's magic in extending drives had anything to do with Murray getting the carries to allow him to get 100+ in all those games? But oh yeah, I forgot, Tony can't play well without the running game, right?
We reached for Ellis @ 8, now we're thinking of taking a similar player in Bosa @ 4.
Bosa is not Greg Ellis. Only Broaddus is dumb enough to even say that. Remember, there's a reason he's on the radio and not in the war rooms any more. Even Brugler, his buddy, laughed the first time he said that.
Everyone who follows the draft had Bosa among the top 2 or 3 players in the entire draft when the season ended. It's only after all this over analysis brought about by the media needing to generate clicks for 4 months has Bosa fallen, and even then he's only fallen in the minds of some fans.
More busts and misses are created by believing what you see from players running in underwear instead of what you saw from players actually, I don't know, playing football.
... but would rather trade down if Tunsil is there to get value later in the draft as it seems to be short this year in top 5 (blue chippers w/o question marks).
In, that makes sense. I agree if Tunsil is there and we get a good offer we should take it and get more picks. This draft is certainly low on top 5 studs, which figures in the year we get a top 5 pick.
I just want to prepare the fandom to not skewer the kid before he puts a star in if he's the pick. He could become a very very good player here.
Judging DE's strictly for their pass rushing abilities doesnt consider accountibility for the other 75% of what DE's are supposed to do.
Ive seen "elite pass rushers take themselves totally out of a pivitol play. Ive seen them manhandled by offensive linemen. Wouldnt happen often to Bosa.
Bosa would make their running game one sided.
Imagine Sean Lee coming at you behind Joey Bosa....violent.
I'm a huge Zeke guy but if I thought Bosa was an elite talent I would take him first. We do need a DE more than a RB. But drafting for need is what got us Shante Carver and Kavika Pittman