Anyone who would blame this loss on Romo needs their head examined

wileedog

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Really?

Like Romo inexeplicably audibling out of a run play when we were supposed to run the ball and throwing a pick? And Beasley running a very standard option route and sitting exactly where he needed to and Romo never seeing Shields to his outside?

How about all of those underthrows to Dez?






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He put up 36 points. That should win any game where the opposing QB is Matt Flynn hands down.

If your team success is predicated on Tony Romo being Payton Manning, you are going to lose games. Period.

I fully blame him for the audible, but why is he even in that situation in a game we were winning 26-3 at half time?
 

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It's not really an either/or proposition as to how the Cowboys lost.

Cowboys offense kick FGs vs getting TDs.
Cowboys defense inexplicably reverted back to the squad we saw on Monday night.
The INTs were just awful and can't really be defended.

That and a bunch of other stuff contributed to the loss.
 

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Look at who Brady has to throw to?
Poll thirty-two NFL GM's on whom they rather have and I guarantee you it would be 32-0 for Brady. Gimme a break with this garbage.

Tom Brady is one of the best ever.

Tony Romo is just a good QB.

Tom Brady is coached by one of the best ever.

Tony Romo is not, lol.

We get it.
 

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Look at who Brady has to throw to?
Poll thirty-two NFL GM's on whom they rather have and I guarantee you it would be 32-0 for Brady. Gimme a break with this garbage.

No one ever said they'd take Romo over Brady, but this is what I don't get.

You're acting like you're shocked this team is crumbling and that we're losing. Here's a question, do you consider Brees better than Romo? You know, the HoFer for the Saints. Well if you do, then how in the heck you expect Romo to carry a horrendous defense with no HC, when even a HoFer QB couldn't even do it. Brees could only muster a 7-9 record in Romo's situation, at least we're still essentially tied for first with a chance at the playoffs.

I think Romo has over achieved under the current predicament he's in, he's been put into a very tight spot this year that only maybe 1-2 QBs could have any success in. And 1-2 is pushing it.
 

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He put up 36 points. That should win any game where the opposing QB is Matt Flynn hands down.
For other teams, it wins 95% of the time, no matter who the opposing QB is.

The last 100 times another team scored at least 36 points in a game, that team won 95 times.

The last two times we did it, we're 0-2.
 

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He put up 36 points. That should win any game where the opposing QB is Matt Flynn hands down.

If your team success is predicated on Tony Romo being Payton Manning, you are going to lose games. Period.

I fully blame him for the audible, but why is he even in that situation in a game we were winning 26-3 at half time?

It's not about how many points you score. It's about the QB getting more points than the other team.

Before we pass all the blame on Callahan and Garrett, we should realize that Romo can audible into running plays when a pass play is called. Funny how we never have that issue of him checking into running plays too often.

A big reason why we got into this position is that Romo kept wanting to throw the ball. Run the clock down, keep your ugly defense off the field and give the Packers a lot less time on the clock when they get the ball back.

It's not like the defense sucking is a big shock either. We knew this beforehand and should have known that we needed to keep the defense off the field as much as possible.




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It's not about how many points you score. It's about the QB getting more points than the other team.

The only thing the QB can control is how many points he scores.

As for the audibles, the only running play we know Romo audibled out of was the last one. I'm going to need to see some real proof that we ran the ball 7 times for an entire half because Romo kept switching plays, and even if we do I'm going to need to see some real justification as to why the Head Coach couldn't stop him from doing it.

Plus the defense, for all it's faults, dominated GB the first half. Why was there a 2nd half panic?
 

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No one ever said they'd take Romo over Brady, but this is what I don't get.

You're acting like you're shocked this team is crumbling and that we're losing. Here's a question, do you consider Brees better than Romo? You know, the HoFer for the Saints. Well if you do, then how in the heck you expect Romo to carry a horrendous defense with no HC, when even a HoFer QB couldn't even do it. Brees could only muster a 7-9 record in Romo's situation, at least we're still essentially tied for first with a chance at the playoffs.

I think Romo has over achieved under the current predicament he's in, he's been put into a very tight spot this year that only maybe 1-2 QBs could have any success in. And 1-2 is pushing it.


The non-Romo lovers for once want to see there QB come up BIG in a BIG game when the team really needs him. There is no question this loss is shared between a number of players but the QB had TWO chances in the final five minutes or so to put the dagger in this crappy team he was playing and both times it was him who crapped the bed. Sorry he has done it TOO many times in his career for this to be a coincidence.
 

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Tom Brady got the ball at the end of the game today and didn't get it done either.

2011-New England defense ranked 31st. ....should have won the SB had it not been for a miracle throw and catch. Brady was QB that year in case you didn't know. Cowboy fans would kill for that kind of season.
 

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2011-New England defense ranked 31st. ....should have won the SB had it not been for a miracle throw and catch. Brady was QB that year in case you didn't know. Cowboy fans would kill for that kind of season.

Actually, their defense was 15th in PPG, which is a lot more important than the metric you're using. So not only was their defense a lot better than ours, they also actually had a HC. So what you're saying is a team with a much better defense and coaching staff had a better record then us? Cool, and they still lost the Super Bowl. Your point?

And if Brady would've scored more then 21 points with two hall of fame WRs, then he would of had another ring ... But nope, apparently that's too much to ask for lol.
 

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I posted this in another thread. Here's the link that quantifies this next statement.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/broa...after-this-season.276682/page-13#post-5351131



Here's the Cliff'sNotes:

Tony Romo has 5 seasons where his defense has been ranked 20th or worse in scoring.

Tom Brady has NEVER had such a season.

Drew Brees has 4 such seasons (in New Orleans) and the Saints have won 7, 7, 8 and 13 wins during those years. His stats for that 13-win year aren't significantly different from any other season where his defense ranked 20th or lower. The main difference was his defense was 2nd in the NFL in takeaways (39) and the Saints scored 9 or 10 times while their offense was on the bench.

Aaron Rogers has 2 seasons (counting this year) where his defense has sandbagged him. 2006 the Packers won 6 games. He has had 1 seasons with the 19th ranked defense but it was the year he threw for 45 TDs and 6 INTs, by far the best of his career.

Peyton Manning has many of these seasons, including this year. The Broncos defense has given up a similar amount of points as Dallas but the key difference between each team's records is that Manning has 49 TDs. Peyton has had big-win seasons with crappy defenses as well so he's basically the only QB in the NFL who can overcome having a defense that is ranked 20th or below in scoring.

Given Rogers ridiculous season of 45 TDs and Manning's 49 TDs this year, pretty much the only way a team wins with such a crappy defense is by having an unrealistic amount of TDs that only the best QBs in the league have had during their most productive years.

Without a doubt and more evident than ever after tonight, Romo is also hampered by his coaching staff.

With that said, you can call Tony Romo a choker if you like. He's certainly made his mistakes. But just know that nobody else is overcoming the crap he's been sandbagged with for the vast majority of his career and the only way he could even have a chance to shake that label is by throwing for 45+ TDs year-in and year-out........basically he just hast to move Heaven and Earth.
This is the best post I've seen in a while. Too bad it's been ignored in this thread. It was ignored in the other thread too.

Here's the deal, at least from my perspective. The problem with the Cowboys really boils down to one thing: Jerry Jones thinks Tony Romo is Peyton Manning, and he expects him to play like Manning. How else can we explain the miserable defensive performance year after year? The offense is decent enough to win games, and it's been that way for a while, but just about every year the defense is in the bottom third of the league, and nothing changes. Romo gets new weapons every year, but really, when was the last game changing defensive player drafted? Ware?

That doesn't matter, though. Jerry Jones has Romo, and to him that should be good enough. I mean, he's SO good that Jerry wanted Romo to have more control of the offense...just like Manning does. Unfortunately, Romo isn't Manning, and to expect him to play like Manning is foolish. Sure, if Manning had been playing for the Cowboys tonight, they probably would have won the game. But he doesn't. We have Romo, though, so heck, let's just put it all on him because, after all, he's just like Manning...or so Jerry and the Cowboys think which leads to results like tonight and Washington, and the Giants, etc.

Let's just get this out of the way once and for all. Romo is not Manning and to expect him to perform like Manning, over and over, in these situations is, again, idiotic. He's a good enough QB, but he's not on the same level as a guy who is capable of throwing 48 times a game an not make a mistake. Yet that's what Jerry expects as do MANY on this board. It's stupid.

Let's get something else out of the way. Romo had two killer turnovers, and both are on him. And hell, I like Romo, a lot, but yes, both are his fault. Having said that, though, what do you all expect? The team comes out of the locker room after the half and right away starts throwing the ball. As soon as I saw that, I knew they were going to lose the game. Did Romo audible out of run plays to pass or were those designed pass plays? I don't really care because either way what this tells me is that there is a gigantic problem with the coaching staff. Romo is an asset, and the head coach is the guy who determines how best to use that asset, and if he can't control that asset during the game, then he's either spineless or suffering from the same Manning love that plagues the owner. Either way, he needs to get the hell out of town.

Seriously. They were running all over the Packers, and the coaching staff decides that it would be better to, once again, let the game play out as if Manning was behind center? Really? With this defense the coaching staff either asked or allowed Romo to put it all on him in the second half?

WHY??

Romo is going to make a mistake. He's not Peyton Manning. He's an upper level talent, but he has weaknesses, and the more he throws, the more likely you're going to see those weaknesses. He threw the ball 48 times. It's GOING TO HAPPEN. I saw it coming. Many did, I'm sure. Yet, this crap continues to occur week after week. 26-3 lead at the half. DeMarco is gashing them. The defense is terrible. Hey, let's put this on Manning...uh...I mean Romo to win.

What the hell is going on in Dallas?
 

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Really?

Like Romo inexeplicably audibling out of a run play when we were supposed to run the ball and throwing a pick? And Beasley running a very standard option route and sitting exactly where he needed to and Romo never seeing Shields to his outside?

How about all of those underthrows to Dez?






YR

Even with those under throws we were winning 24-3 at the half. He scored 36 points and if he had a NFL calibre HC, that should have been good enough to win this game.

JG did the same thing against Detroit in 2011. We were winning 27-3 in the third quarter in that game yet he kept calling pass plays.

If JG had a half a brain, he should have made sure that Romo should not, could not audible. No matter what.
 

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For other teams, it wins 95% of the time, no matter who the opposing QB is.

The last 100 times another team scored at least 36 points in a game, that team won 95 times.

The last two times we did it, we're 0-2.

While this is certainly true, there is simply no longer any way to ignore the history of awful interceptions by Romo in situations like this. It is not a small sample size either, there are many examples of this happening. No, it is not all Romo's fault, but a sizable portion is.
 

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While this is certainly true, there is simply no longer any way to ignore the history of awful interceptions by Romo in situations like this.

Situations like what? Meaningless out of division games? Football games played indoors? Games that start at 3:25?
 

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Situations like what? Meaningless out of division games? Football games played indoors? Games that start at 3:25?

If you can't figure it our for yourself by this point you're blind. I like Romo, he is undoubtedly a top 10 QB, and he has won us several games. But he has also been a significant part of us losing many big games. He is not THE reason that we lost today, but he is a large part of it. He has to be blamed just as much as anyone else.
 
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