AP: Authorities Again Raid Vick Property

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Official declines comment on why authorities are on property

Updated: July 6, 2007, 10:38 AM ET

SURRY, Va. -- A dozen cars and a U-Haul truck were parked Friday on property owned by Falcons quarterback Michael Vick in what appeared to be a second federal raid of the site that has been the focus of a dogfighting probe.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported.

Television station WVEC in Hampton Roads, Va., is reporting that an investigator told it that forensics crews are searching only for dog carcasses. It also reported that the Surry County Sheriff's Office is involved in the search.

WVEC is reporting crews began digging early Friday in an area behind Vick's Moonlight Road house near two black sheds, where investigators say they previously found evidence of dogfighting.

The house is in the process of being sold by Vick, according to Naqi.

The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dog fighting allegations.

On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on a home owned by Vick armed with a search warrant that suggests they're taking over an investigation into the Falcons quarterback's possible involvement in dogfighting.

More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation.

Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded.

The results of that search have remained sealed.

At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved.

"What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?"

A day later, Poindexter said: "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along.

"We are just pursuing parallel investigations."

During an April 25 drug raid on the home Vick owns in the county, authorities seized 66 dogs, including 55 pit bulls, and equipment that suggested someone at the property was involved in a dogfighting operation.

A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation.

Others included a rape stand, used to hold non-receptive dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified to be used by dogs; a "pry bar" used to open the clamped-down mouths of dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting the authorities believe was used in dog fights. Carpeting gives dogs traction in a plywood fighting pit.

Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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Hostile;1545811 said:
Official declines comment on why authorities are on property

Updated: July 6, 2007, 10:38 AM ET

SURRY, Va. -- A dozen cars and a U-Haul truck were parked Friday on property owned by Falcons quarterback Michael Vick in what appeared to be a second federal raid of the site that has been the focus of a dogfighting probe.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported.

Television station WVEC in Hampton Roads, Va., is reporting that an investigator told it that forensics crews are searching only for dog carcasses. It also reported that the Surry County Sheriff's Office is involved in the search.

WVEC is reporting crews began digging early Friday in an area behind Vick's Moonlight Road house near two black sheds, where investigators say they previously found evidence of dogfighting.

The house is in the process of being sold by Vick, according to Naqi.

The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dog fighting allegations.

On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on a home owned by Vick armed with a search warrant that suggests they're taking over an investigation into the Falcons quarterback's possible involvement in dogfighting.

More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation.

Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded.

The results of that search have remained sealed.

At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved.

"What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?"

A day later, Poindexter said: "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along.

"We are just pursuing parallel investigations."

During an April 25 drug raid on the home Vick owns in the county, authorities seized 66 dogs, including 55 pit bulls, and equipment that suggested someone at the property was involved in a dogfighting operation.

A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation.

Others included a rape stand, used to hold non-receptive dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified to be used by dogs; a "pry bar" used to open the clamped-down mouths of dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting the authorities believe was used in dog fights. Carpeting gives dogs traction in a plywood fighting pit.

Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Is it just me or does this seem as if it's very disjointed? This investigation seems as if it's been run very irregularly. I don't have a lot of experience in these kinds of things but just seems as if this is something that should have taken place months ago. Perhaps one of our more knowledgable posters can weigh in on how these things typically progress but dang, seems like I would have been digging up dogs a long time ago.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1545816 said:
Is it just me or does this seem as if it's very disjointed? This investigation seems as if it's been run very irregularly. I don't have a lot of experience in these kinds of things but just seems as if this is something that should have taken place months ago. Perhaps one of our more knowledgable posters can weigh in on how these things typically progress but dang, seems like I would have been digging up dogs a long time ago.

That is why some question the role of the prosecutor in the case and probably why the feds took over. It has been very disjointed.
 

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Yeagermeister;1545815 said:
Buckle your seat belts because here we go again
:laugh2:

I heard this on ESPNews right before I left the house this morning. Oughta be an exciting day at the zone.
 

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peplaw06;1545826 said:
:laugh2:

I heard this on ESPNews right before I left the house this morning. Oughta be an exciting day at the zone.


Pep, my man! On the job with expert analysis. I'm sitting very attentively, awaiting the onslaught. I hope to see you in the thick of it.

:D
 

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I'm not going to start the Vick should be put away stuff, because I don't know if he had any part of it. I will say though if it is found out that dog fighting happened there he should be held a little responsable, since he owned the property and he should be responsible for what goes on there, at least just a little, maybe a fine or something, I don't know.

However, whoever was behind all this (his cousin, whoever) needs to be severely punished. Some of that stuff I just read was both disturbing and sick. I'll leave it at that.

Also, last I heard I thought the judge (or whoever) denied them a warrant to search for dog carcasses? I'm guessing they rewrote it to his liking and it went through?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1545816 said:
Is it just me or does this seem as if it's very disjointed? This investigation seems as if it's been run very irregularly. I don't have a lot of experience in these kinds of things but just seems as if this is something that should have taken place months ago. Perhaps one of our more knowledgable posters can weigh in on how these things typically progress but dang, seems like I would have been digging up dogs a long time ago.
I think Poindexter caused lot of confusion with his idiocy, refusal to carry out court order, and mismanaging the investigation. If he did his job correctly, I'm not sure Feds would be involved.
 

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Don Corleone;1545835 said:
Department of Agriculture? Could they be looking for weed?

It was originally a drug raid on the house, and they found the dog fighting evidence during that.
 

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peplaw06;1545826 said:
:laugh2:

I heard this on ESPNews right before I left the house this morning. Oughta be an exciting day at the zone.
On ESPN's NFL page the top 3 stories are this.

Tank Johnson not going to be charged with DUI in AZ.

...and...

Pacman Jones is waiting to find out if the Vegas charges come back to haunt him in the plea bargain of a previous case.
 

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They have found enough to continue to pursue, but maybe it was caught up in the courts ?

I dont think they are building a case against Vick at this point, but most likely the cousin.

I dont know if he will get more than a fine at this point. I would need to learn about his personal involvement a little more.

I do have a question if anyone knows. I think this alleged crime is a felony, but what is the potential/maximum jail sentence?
 

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Hostile;1545843 said:
On ESPN's NFL page the top 3 stories are this.

Tank Johnson not going to be charged with DUI in AZ.

...and...

Pacman Jones is waiting to find out if the Vegas charges come back to haunt him in the plea bargain of a previous case.


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A nation turns its lonely eyes to you Ooo ooo ooo.

What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
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Sign of the times I guess.
 

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I just want this to end.

That way I can either know to write the Falcons off or not.
 

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Alexander;1545859 said:
I just want this to end.

That way I can either know to write the Falcons off or not.

Heck, just go ahead and do it. I think you'd probably be safe writting them off either way.

;)
 

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Alexander;1545859 said:
I just want this to end.

That way I can either know to write the Falcons off or not.
I think we all want it to end one way or the other. I've rarely seen something like this take so long. Makes me wonder what they uncovred and how far reaching it is and who will be implicated. Sort of like the baseball steroids issues.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1545847 said:
I do have a question if anyone knows. I think this alleged crime is a felony, but what is the potential/maximum jail sentence?
The Virginia statute prohibits dogfighting and fighting involving other types of animals. The prohibition extends to promoting, organizing, profiting from, or wagering on dogfighting; possessing, owning, training, or selling any dog for the purpose of dog fighting; or allowing these activities to occur on one’s premises. Except for attendance, any dogfighting activity constitutes a Class 6 felony, punishable by a jail sentence of between one and five years; or in the alternative and at the discretion of the jury or the judge, twelve months in jail, a fine not to exceed $2500, or both. Attendance at a dogfight constitutes a Class 3 misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail, a fine not to exceed $2500, or both. In addition, any person convicted for a dogfighting violation must pay for the housing or euthanizing of any confiscated dogs. Cockfighting, however, is not a felony; instead Virginia has designated any cockfighting activity, including attendance, as a Class 3 misdemeanor, which carries a fine of $500.
However, there may be additional charges, like crualty to animals since there were so many dogs at that house and some were not in a very good shape.

http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/se...nd_natural_resources/animal_law/cruelty06.cfm
 

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adamknite;1545839 said:
It was originally a drug raid on the house, and they found the dog fighting evidence during that.

Check the article again. The Department of Agriculture is there TODAY.
 

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03EBZ06;1545832 said:
I think Poindexter caused lot of confusion with his idiocy, refusal to carry out court order, and mismanaging the investigation. If he did his job correctly, I'm not sure Feds would be involved.

Poindexter may be under investigation as well. I would certainly be looking at him, at least to determine whether incompetance or collusion was at the basis of the bungled investigation. Either is possible. Hell, there might even be a good reason for his behavior, though I cannot imagine what it would be.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1545858 said:
"Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you Ooo ooo ooo.

What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
"Joltin' Joe has left and gone away"
Hey hey hey, hey hey hey. "

Sign of the times I guess.



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